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prr 1863 project on tumblr explore communities change palette sign up log in left handed catcher 1863 project 1863 project tumblr com steph she her is an archivist with a b a in history from gettysburg college class of 2011 minored in civil war era studies and an m s in library science from pratt institute class of december 2014 archival studies focus see her about page for tags founder of the autistic gaming initiative ask her your train questions she ll answer runs purely on caffeine and guts drop me a line guys follow clear posts search all of tumblr 1863 project justagoddamnpossum asked i have a train question is there a specific locomotive that you think doesn t get enough love compared to others locomotives are a lot like pokemon in that every single one is someone s favorite somewhere but if we want to get specific a lot of the prr s non gg1 electrics were actually really solid like the dd1 and p5a the modified form of which somewhat does resemble the g the dd1s were built to run between manhattan transfer and penn station when it opened in 1910 and ran on direct current when the prr main line switched to alternating current in the 1930s and the gg1s arrived the dd1s that weren t scrapped were transferred to the lirr and some survived until the 1950s with two pairs remaining as of 1962 today there s one surviving dd1 pair which lives at the railroad museum of pennsylvania in strasburg these guys were cool because they always ran in what we call married pairs you d always see them as a set of two they re also notable for having coupling rods on their drive wheels like a steam locomotive would they weren t glamorous but they did their duty well the p5a was another excellent freight workhorse although it was originally designed to work passenger trains it was eclipsed by the significantly more successful gg1 soon after its debut and was relegated to freight duty where it performed excellently it had one major design flaw though in that it had a box cab which left the crew vulnerable to injury or death in the case of an accident this did inevitably happen and the p5a received a modification moving the cab to the center of the vehicle to improve crew safety this is the before there were two prototypes of this design simply referred to as the p5 and then the production models were referred to as the p5a the modified production models became known as p5a modified locomotives they looked like this looks an awful lot like a gg1 doesn t it this was by design from wikipedia documentation published in 2010 disproved the decades long belief that the modified p5 s new shell design came first and was then applied to the gg1 r1 and eventually the dd2 instead it was revealed that the gg1 project under the direction of industrial designer donald r dohner was the first to receive the center cab design and that soon afterward it was applied to the r1 and p5 to compare here s an image of old rivets the prototype gg1 and my dear childhood friend who was the first gg1 i ever saw the r1 was the other prototype the prr tested alongside the gg1 the gg1 was the one they chose to put into production but the r1 prototype remained in service as well the dd2 was also a prototype that resembled a smaller gg1 obviously all the gg1s after rivets were famously streamlined but rivets is the easiest design comparison to use here since she came first most railfans will instantly recognize a gg1 the moment they see one because most of them look like this and of course the gg1 was a wildly successful locomotive with the fleet s last members surviving in service until the early 1980s they lasted nearly 50 years outliving the other prr electrics by decades arguably they re still the most successful and best electric locomotives of all time which is why other prr electrics tend to be overshadowed but those other electrics are important too because they re how we got to the gg1 in the first place and they did incredibly important work in their own rights replies justagoddamnpossum i like trains gg1 prr gg1 dd1 prr dd1 p5a p5a modified prr p5a prr pennsylvania railroad 6 13 1863 project cataloging at this job is so much fun for me it s also a chance to flex because i get to show off my ability to identify specific steam locomotives down to their class and number the collection i m working with is great because the railfans whose photos these were labeled every locomotive and car they had the information for and from that i can extrapolate the class and whyte notation it s such good enrichment for me i have also developed a fondness for the prr lirr s g5s via this project they re lovely beasts there are three survivors of the class one prr one and two lirr ones the latter two of which are both prominently featured in this collection the prr one is at the railroad museum of pennsylvania and to give you an idea of how big these things were i m 5 2 i like trains prr lirr prr g5s lirr g5s 7 13 34 1863 project reblogged oldfilmsflicker classicfilmblr follow well you know we don t love each other anymore we re just habits bad habits and when love s gone there s nothing left but admiration and respect the palm beach story 1942 dir preston sturges 1863 project locomotive is prr 3768 a streamlined k4 pacific the original penn station appears in this film as well f in the chat in reality a k4 wouldn t have been pulling a train out of penn station as steam locomotives were banned in manhattan by that point so it should be a gg1 electric but this is hollywood and they don t care reblogs i like trains prr pennsylvania railroad k4 prr 3768 480 936 1863 project secrfidr asked wh what happened in penn station in the 1960s now i gotta know from the expert posts in which i ve discussed the tragedy of penn station 1 2 3 i ve talked about penn station before but this is a good opportunity to do a real big post on the matter so here we go there s going to be some backstory required for this so bear with me before penn station was built the pennsylvania railroad s eastern terminus was at exchange place in jersey city new jersey travelers going to new york city had to then take a ferry to manhattan this wasn t exactly ideal but it worked out well enough except that the prr s main rival the new york central had a station smack dab in manhattan in 1869 cornelius vanderbilt started construction on grand central depot which was later expanded into grand central station 1900 eventually this structure would be replaced by grand central terminal in 1913 but the point is that the nyc had a station right in the heart of manhattan and the prr didn t and that had to change pronto their first idea was to build a rail bridge across the hudson river and set up a station at the end of it but the state of new york insisted this would have to be a joint project with other railroads in new jersey and there were no takers eventually the prr decided to tunnel underneath the hudson river in 1901 the prr noticed a station in paris that switched to electric locomotives for the approach into the city this approach became crucial after numerous accidents and issues finally convinced the city of new york to ban steam locomotives entirely in manhattan in 1908 the president of the prr in 1901 alexander cassatt yes mary cassatt s brother led the push to use the ideas seen in paris and unfortunately died four years before penn station was finished in 1910 he never saw the building he worked so hard for cassatt had picked the architect charles mckim of the famed architecture firm mckim mead white for the job in 1902 and mckim delivered in grand style the station was considered completed on august 29 1910 and it began seeing trains and passengers with a soft opening a few weeks later now both the prr and the long island railroad which the prr controlled had direct passage into manhattan penn station looked like this back then all photos from wikipedia before things were completely electrified the prr used a station called manhattan transfer to switch passengers from trains pulled by steam locomotives to electric ones but as the northeast corridor was fully electrified this became obsolete manhattan transfer only remained open from 1910 1937 eventually the prr had electrified the entire route from new york penn station to washington d c and as of the late 1930s this route was run by my favorite electric locomotives the gg1s which continued to work into the early 1980s because they were just that good anyway penn station had a good run as the most beautiful building in new york as it welcomed in passengers skyscrapers began to rise and manhattan continued to evolve into the center of culture it is today the prr and the new york central continued to duke it out especially with their crack passenger trains the new york central s 20th century limited between grand central and chicago and the prr s broadway limited between penn station and chicago but after world war ii and especially in the 1950s as more people could afford cars and air travel began to become a more viable option the railways began to decline both the prr and the new york central were hurting and ultimately the prr made the decision to sell the air rights above penn station first optioning them to real estate developer william zeckendorf in 1954 and eventually quietly selling them in 1960 to irving m felt who in 1962 announced that penn station would be demolished and the current madison square garden would be built in its place architects and historical preservationists understandably freaked out and there were numerous protests but ultimately penn station was demolished starting in 1963 with only a few vestiges of the old building remaining underneath its tombstone madison square garden the prr and new york central eventually merged in 1968 into an eldritch abomination called penn central which only lasted a few years before going bankrupt the two most notable giants of railroading in new york city were both dead with only grand central terminal remaining as a reminder of what once was we almost lost grand central too we got lucky the preservationists won that fight led by jackie kennedy onassis herself but it was a close call and it didn t bring penn station back they ve tried recently to give us back what we lost they recently opened moynihan train hall in the old post office building across the street also designed by mckim mead white but it isn t even close to what we once had and after all we re now stuck with this in the main penn station concourse they re renovating it now but it won t make up for the lack of natural light that penn station once had the remains of penn station can be found in a few places the statues from the outside made it to various museums and botanical gardens the rubble from the building itself rests somewhere in the meadowlands in new jersey i ve never found it despite researching and looking the death of penn station kickstarted the historical preservation movement in new york city but the cost was great i hope someday to hold a piece of it in my hands a building stolen from me before i was even born replies secrfidr i like trains penn station new york penn station sad underground train dungeon prr pennsylvania railroad 29 89 1863 project also a reminder that i am also very bitter about what happened to penn station in the 1960s so this happened tonight not pictured my train ita bag that is about 90 pennsylvania railroad but at least my hat is visible me i like trains sad underground train dungeon prr penn station pennsylvania railroad 1 4 16 1863 project i now have an ita bag for all my train pins so far the ones i have here all have some significance to me the lackawanna delaware lackawanna and western was one of my local railroads it merged with the erie near the end of both railroads lives the crown jewel of the lackawanna hoboken terminal is absolutely gorgeous the 20th century limited drumhead is there because i love the 4 6 4 hudsons that pulled the train particularly the dreyfuss hudsons all of them were scrapped and i am deeply angry about it the drumhead itself was on the observation cars on the back like the hickory creek which i ve been on the prr k4 pacific is a souvenir from altoona horseshoe curve the money from sales of those pins goes towards restoring prr 1361 there are a lot of gg1s and gg1 related things the small gg1 pin is one i ve had since i was a little kid because i ve loved them my whole life the two larger ones are more recent pickups there s also a manufacturer s plate and old rivets s number prr 4800 because i m especially fond of old rivets the last one in the bottom right hand corner is strasburg 90 they gave me that pin as a souvenir after i drove her that one s especially special i d have probably bought something 90 related anyway because i m quite attached to her as well but that s a reminder for me that i actually drove so it means a lot the reason i went with the cat design chessie the mascot for the c o a sleeping kitten i like trains gg1 k4 new york central prr pennsylvania railroad strasburg rail road strasburg railroad strasburg 90 lackawanna railroad 18 1863 project i have normal hobbies i tell myself as i currently try to build a six member pokemon team themed around the pennsylvania railroad pokemon i like trains the standard railroad of the world rears its head again i ll be using my own eelektross named after the gg1 old rivets of course and a spiritomb to represent the keystone prr 1 8 25 1863 project gg1s look at them in all their art deco streamlined glory raymond loewy did a thing and it was good gg1 pennsylvania railroad prr pennsy history raymond loewy i like trains 3 9 1863 project i finished doing all four ho scale model train boxes and in the last two my dad had some early 1930s time tables it was a neat little ephemeral find history pennsylvania railroad prr baltimore and ohio railroad b o railroad i like trains 3 1863 project reblogged 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