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i dont think unless i am root admin 04 18 williambuell the support here is not too great might want to try a support channel 04 18 williambuell yeah that s why i suggested owning the folder 04 18 yeah but you guys know this like the back of your hand 04 19 once you do that you can mkdir in var www all you wnat 04 19 and you just cant give a beginner the command to create the folder 04 19 williambuell if we did we would have told you straight away 04 19 so you say create the folder and then use chown to change ownership 04 19 and then everything will be honkey dory ok 04 19 williambuell no chown var www then you can create all the folders you want without sudo 04 21 ok so sudo chown bryan var www gives me the rights then i should be able to navigate with the gui and create proj1 04 21 williambuell yep 04 21 aha now that is making sense to this beginner brain 04 22 and i wont need to mess with that other tutorial 04 22 since i only want stuff to work locally 04 22 williambuell right no apache configs 04 23 but second question if i make a bunch of php html pages in var www proj1 do i need explicit paths to the other pages or will they default to that local directory 04 23 and is there some command i need to issue to make var www proj1 a local directory for that session 04 23 williambuell not sure i m following 04 23 williambuell not sure you re sure what you re asking 04 24 http localhost basically loads what s in var www 04 24 ok you are telling me if i do all this then from browser i type localhost proj1 report html and it comes up 04 24 yep 04 24 but inside report html it is going to post to report php 04 24 if you have var www proj1 report html 04 24 yeah default is current folder 04 24 but it will know enough to look in var www proj1 without 04 25 well it looks in http localhost proj1 report php 04 25 or rather posts to 04 25 aha and the very act of launching the project as localhost proj1 is sufficient to make that the local directory for the entier project session 04 25 which should correspond to var www proj1 report php 04 25 if so that makes sense 04 25 williambuell not sure you quite get url vs local path 04 25 it s not for the session 04 25 in other words i dont have to hard code specific addresses in each html and php 04 26 that s just how it it 04 26 williambuell that you have to do 04 26 i want to develop something in var www proj1 test it but have it work if i move it somewhere else 04 26 williambuell why not just have a php file 04 26 why have anything html 04 26 well i dont know enough to understand your hint 04 26 williambuell a php file can have html and php in it 04 27 because the tutorial book i am following starts with report html posting with report php but now i see what you are saying 04 27 williambuell what book 04 27 but php or html is not germain to my path question at hand 04 27 it is a great book called head first php mysql which leads you step by step including cookie sessions 04 28 i have in my blog links to the book 04 28 i am buying the book for 60 tomorrow and i already downloaded a zip file of all the source code exercises from the publisher 04 29 williambuell do you have any programming background and are you interested in mysql 04 29 i started programming in 1979 through the 1980s with stuff like cobol rpg then basic then pick 04 29 williambuell btw you know you can get it as an ebook for 36 04 29 i am not a moron 04 30 i just have some simple questions which in reality have very simple answers but getting straight answers from techie types is like pulling teeth 04 31 williambuell do you like head first series tags apache head first multiplenamehost mysql o reilly php var www posted in apache irc mysql php programming software tutorial ubuntu wubi leave a comment ubuntu irc please review correct this script november 25 2009 if you are curious to visit the irc channel visit here first https wiki ubuntu com ircguidelines thanks for visiting from irc ubuntu offtopic i am a beginner with linux ubuntu and i want a simple means to back up my system occasionally i found a tar command at the following link http ubuntuforums org showthread php t 35087 i tried it once and it seemed to work except i had some trouble getting rights to access the file in root i think that the following commands will work for me without hurting my install i did do some things with sudo nautilus and a var backup folder which i believe crashed my whole ubuntu system and i had to spend 7 hours re installing it which you may read about at this blog so i really need someone who is experienced in linux and script bash commands to look at this and tell me if there is any danger i did get the tar command which you see below to work once and i managed to copy it to a dvd i put the dvd in my second computer which is a wubi ubuntu install on top of windows and it was able to open the tar browse the folders and extract some files from desktop i would also appreciate the correct command to safely delete backup tgz from root thanks for looking and commenting enter terminal sudo su tar cvpzf backup tgz exclude proc exclude lost found exclude backup tgz exclude mnt exclude sys exclude media sudo cd sudo chmod 777 backup tgz sudo cp p backup tgz home bryan desktop mytestfolder 1 i would also appreciate the correct command to safely delete backup tgz from root 2 sudo rm backup tgz 3 4 thanks for looking and commenting 5 6 enter terminal 7 8 sudo su 9 this is silly for two reasons first sudo i is preferable to sudo su second rather than putting sudo on every line of the script just run the script itself with sudo 10 11 this will work but using v verbose doesn t really add value with this huge of a data set and significantly impairs performance the terminal can t keep up so i d probably drop it 12 tar cvpzf backup tgz exclude proc exclude lost found exclude backup tgz exclude mnt exclude sys exclude media 13 note that you are not specifying a target directory for backup tgz to end up in here as you ve noticed it s helpful to have it somewhere that you re not backing up to avoid recursion 14 15 sudo cd 16 17 sudo chmod 777 backup tgz 18 19 sudo cp p backup tgz home bryan desktop mytestfolder 20 21 22 thus my recommendations 23 24 bin bash 25 tar cpzf backup tgz exclude proc exclude lost found exclude backup tgz exclude mnt exclude sys exclude media 26 chmod 755 backup tgz 27 ln s backup tgz home bryan desktop mytestfolder 28 29 save as mybackupscript sh 30 chmod x mybackupscript sh 31 run with 32 sudo mybackupscript sh tonyyarusso one quick question what does this last line do ln s backup tgz home bryan desktop mytestfolder 02 07 what is ln s 02 07 williambuell create a symbolic link 02 07 williambuell it creates a symbolic link 02 07 symlink 02 08 williambuell it makes a pointer of sorts in your home directory to the real file rather than copying it all over 02 08 and ok ln symbolic link how is that useful 02 08 can reach data 2 ways but only have it exist on disk once 02 08 so you are saying that when i mount a dvd and go to file manager i will see the tar in that folder but it is really the symbolic link and i may freely copy it to the dvd 02 08 so if you dont want to type a really really long path you can have a shortcut 02 08 williambuell half the disk space usage and less time 02 08 williambuell yup 02 09 wow thanks now it all makes sense 02 09 there are also hardlinks ln without the s 02 09 what is difference between hard and soft link 02 09 symlinks point to a path to the data so they can point to things on other disks partitions media hardlink vs symlink 02 19 williambuell i thought you wanted it in that folder for some kind of convenience it s certainly not necessary 02 19 oh ok i am just scared to death of root since my crash 02 19 the script can go wherever you like many people like to create home bryan bin for such things but it doesn t matter 02 20 so sudo mybackupscript sh will search until it finds that file wherever it is even on desktop 02 20 no 02 20 it will be the current working directory whatever that is 02 21 oh ok so as long as i am in current directory where that sh is and i sudo it will find the sh 02 21 but i should not save the script to root i take it 02 22 and if i did create home bryan bin i would cd to that and then sudo mybackupscript sh 02 23 right 02 23 but if i went into gedit and saved some file as mytestfile sh in root it would not harm root 02 23 except it is a bad practice to store things in root tags backup cp irc sudo tar ubuntu posted in irc software ubuntu leave a comment konversation irc client trouble with away msg november 23 2009 i experimented with resetting my away message in konversation client and then fell asleep after an all night 7 hour reinstall of my crashed ubuntu in the morning when i checked my still running irc session i saw that one of their bots had issued me the following warning 14 38 wants you to know you should avoid noisy away messages in a busy channel like ubuntu or other ubuntu channels it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users use the command away to set your client away silently see also msg ubottu guidelines 14 38 away you are no longer marked as being away i am posting this to save and document the incident and information chatted with me and found it strange that my unattended machine should issue the away message 3 times i also wonder why that should be tags away message bot irc konversation ubuntu posted in irc programming software ubuntu leave a comment irc log archives november 22 2009 http irclogs ubuntu com msg nickserv register password your email address goes here 7 00 notice nickserv nickserv help 17 00 notice nickserv nickserv allows users to register a nickname and stop 17 00 notice nickserv others from using that nick nickserv allows the owner of a 17 00 notice nickserv nickname to disconnect a user from the network that is using 17 00 notice nickserv their nickname 17 00 notice nickserv 17 00 notice nickserv for more information on a command type 17 00 notice nickserv msg nickserv help 17 00 notice nickserv for a verbose listing of all commands type 17 00 notice nickserv msg nickserv help commands 17 00 notice nickserv 17 00 notice nickserv the following commands are available 17 00 notice nickserv ghost reclaims use of a nickname 17 00 notice nickserv group adds a nickname to your account 17 00 notice nickserv ungroup removes a nickname from your account 17 00 notice nickserv identify identifies to services for a nickname 17 00 notice nickserv info displays information on registrations 17 00 notice nickserv listchans lists channels that you have access to 17 00 notice nickserv register registers a nickname 17 00 notice nickserv set sets various control flags 17 00 notice nickserv release releases a services enforcer 17 00 notice nickserv 17 00 notice nickserv other commands access drop help id listownmail logout 17 00 notice nickserv myaccess setpass acc status taxonomy 17 00 notice nickserv vacation verify 17 00 notice nickserv end of help here is how to set a new password query nickserv set password hello_world http thezeitgeistmovement com wiki index php irc tags archive irc log posted in education irc software technology tutorial ubuntu leave a comment ubuntu backup restore plans november 22 2009 konversation irc chat client every day i am in kubuntu chat with 300 members active at any time well logged in but not necessarily all talking i need to study experiment with complete backup restore techniques someone gave me this advice for the mem stick just mount it i e on mnt bckstick then tar f mnt bckstick tar i must google and expand upon it today i do sweeping and mopping but i shall add to this post and experiment i also used synaptic manager to install a simply gui backup restore and i shall test that also but a huge tar command is attractive to me in kubuntu irc konversation is my client one may query bot with and info info backup gave several links the most useful looking link is https wiki ubuntu com homeuserbackup tags backup memory stick memstick restore tar ubuntu posted in irc programming software tutorial ubuntu leave a comment brute force solution using repeated sed commands november 22 2009 note there are many on line guides and tutorials on the sed filter command in linux here is just one such guide http sed sourceforge net sedfaq html the above link has a tutorial section and one very useful tutorial is at this line http www cs hmc edu tech_docs qref sed html yesterday i decided to find an irc channel which discusses ubuntu i looked in the synaptic manager and found an install called kubuntu it was a simple quick install and gave me a wonderful gui irc control panel and automatically directed me to a forum discussing ubuntu with 300 members present in the channel from around the world i made friends with a fellow in brazil who was trying to get his ethernet card to work konversation has an option to continuously log all conversation to disk i leave konversation on all day long and collect the log but the log is filled with extraneous lines about people joining the channel parting the channel changing their nick etc i wanted to find a way using linux commands to filter out everything extraneous and leave only what people actually posted so that i may more easily study it and learn some new thing i looked through my linux pocket guide from o reilly i also googed a bit and decided to use the sed command i think the important thing to remember for any beginner is that there is more than one way to skin a cat a very experienced programmer would know how to perform this task in one line and that one line would probably look like an equation from quantum physics and be difficult to understand but you can also accomplish your desired task using many simple steps many simple commands each of which is easy to understand and visualize the following code will work and do what i want when i paste it into the terminal sed 3d home bryan logs logtest test log output1 log sed join d home bryan output1 log output2 log sed mode d home bryan output2 log output1 log sed part d home bryan output1 log output2 log sed quit d home bryan output2 log output1 log sed nick d home bryan output1 log output2 log sed e s g home bryan output2 log output1 log if you paste the above in terminal it will execute in an instant and produce output1 log as the desired result for ease of discussion i shall number each line but do not include the numbers in what you paste into terminal for execution 1 sed 3d home bryan logs logtest test log output1 log 2 sed join d home bryan output1 log output2 log 3 sed mode d home bryan output2 log output1 log 4 sed part d home bryan output1 log output2 log 5 sed quit d home bryan output2 log output1 log 6 sed nick d home bryan output1 log output2 log 7 sed e s g home bryan output2 log output1 log the first line was my initial test of sed first i copied the main irc log to test log next i issue line 1 a 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