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ncerns it s an editing style that can be considered disruptive on its own the preview button exists for a reason if this wasn t a form of pgaming it s very easy to understand how it could be seen as such especially as you stopped that rapid fire edting yesterday on exactly the number of edits required to become xc and the possibility that you suddenly and abruptly got into a heated discussion about the definition of zionism that led you to post this as your very first edit after becoming extended confirmed jumping into one of the most heated topics on the encyclopedia to engage on a specific topic that is one of the most heated sub topics of that contentious topic would be a truly remarkable coincidence to quote a simple tailor i believe in coincidences coincidences happen every day i don t trust coincidences xc pulled you can request re granting of xc at wp rfp ec after making 500 constructive edits in a more normal editing pattern the bushranger one ping only 17 03 15 september 2026 utc reply assaultim edit assaultim talk contribs wp gaming check did the assaultim account game the extended confirmed permission to edit in the arab israeli conflict ctop gaming check tool plot and summary assaultim s first 500 edits was most substantially composed of intensive bouts of new change patrolling anti vandalism since may 2025 which is why around half of their pre ec edits are reverts i appreciate the value of the anti vandalism work but this is probably not the best learning experience for collaborative editing in this topic area since achieving ecr on the 24th of august assaultim has been in multiple content disputes across the topic area samuelshraga talk 20 28 17 september 2026 utc reply per wp pgame making unconstructive or trivial edits to raise your user access level is not allowed and the examples it provides are making dummy edits or edits to a sandbox to reach ecr you are correct that many of my pre ecr edits were counter vandalism related however i reject the implication that those are either unconstructive or trivial i have also engaged in many counter vandalism related edits after ecr and i have made many edits not related to the arab israeli conflict at all assaultim talk 12 18 18 september 2026 utc reply after much thought i don t think this is actionable as gaming per se if someone was trying to game their edit count with lots of vandal reverts they would likely have warned the users they reverted twice as many edits that way that and taking several months to reach extendedconfirmed after starting active editing is a negative indicator but i totally see where you are coming from here i actually came close to agreeing with you at one point i haven t looked at the merits of their edits in the pia area those can be dealt with in a separate filing if they are problematic pppery it has begun 01 39 19 september 2026 utc reply re assaultim s first 500 edits was most substantially composed of intensive bouts of new change patrolling anti vandalism since may 2025 vs i have also engaged in many counter vandalism related edits after ecr both of these statements appear to be true if reversion activity on both sides of the ec grant point is of interest it is better to switch off the limit colored by rug plots to pre ec option when generating the plot i have regenerated it re taking several months to reach extendedconfirmed after starting active editing is true but both the plot and the summary display the number of days of active editing i e unique dates on which a person saves a revision and for assaultim it s 30 dates out of the almost 4700 accounts that have been granted ec in the past year just under 1 in 5 of them did so with 30 days or less of active editing i agree btw that this is probably not the best learning experience for collaborative editing in this topic area but i also think as i ve said above that the practical experience needed requirement does not seem to be part of pgame enforcement in practice or you could say that editors including admins interpret pgame as currently written in inconsistent and selective ways based on what seem to be personal views on the purpose spirit of ecr rather than what pgame states as an objective maybe this means pgame is unenforceable in practice except in the most obvious and unambiguous cases either way rapid acquisition of the grant via arguably trivial or at least non experience building but constructive edits followed by a substantial focus on ecr pages is both relatively common and not something that the community appears to label as gaming for the most part or sees as problematic in itself sean hoyland talk 04 33 19 september 2026 utc reply on the 30 or fewer days of active editing i d add that of their first 500 edits there were 12 days on which assaultim made a single edit their first 8 edits followed by 19 may 7 june 9 june an ecr violation incidentally and 2 august another ecr vio there was another day 22 june that only had ecr violations so should definitely be excluded from the count the remaining 485 edits would have been on just 17 days of active editing i don t know how many other ecr violations there are but a few jumped out this one which they self reverted a minute later i don t know how to evaluate how admins have generally interpreted pgame all i ve looked at is the current board of quick requests and i don t see how this doesn t qualify pppery i suppose they could have reached extended confirmed faster if they had just warned every time they d reverted but it doesn t make sense to evaluate pgame by pointing out strategies they could have but didn t use the question is whether they did use strategies to game ecr not whether they used the optimal ones i look at the request on sideeffect and what i understand from your response is that lots of though not exclusively trivial but constructive edits including at least one ecr violation followed by immediately editing in the topic area is definitely gaming these were the edits assaultim made within an hour of receiving xc i m struggling to see the difference that makes this less obvious than the sideeffect case samuelshraga talk 18 35 19 september 2026 utc reply talk hasan piker removal of piker s criticism of gaza genocide zionism israeli government from introduction edit not an issue for a quick enforcement request pppery it has begun 05 00 20 september 2026 utc reply the following discussion has been closed please do not modify it talk hasan piker removal of piker s criticism of gaza genocide zionism israeli government from introduction edit subject history links watch logs review and guidance i have asked at teahouse but i don t think it has helped resolve the issue i don t want to drag editors to wikicourt but would it be possible for someone with generosity in their heart take a look at talk hasan piker removal of piker s criticism of gaza genocide zionism israeli government from introduction and if they see something wrong in terms of conduct just tell people to stop doing it and perhaps offer alternative ideas myself included thank you إيان talk 03 40 18 september 2026 utc reply i think honestly all that s needed there is some patience it s a blp as well as being in the pia ctop and that intersection of contentious topics moves slowly but from what i have seen there have been good faith efforts to come to an agreement simonm223 talk 05 32 19 september 2026 utc reply you ve already made your point to me for the edit that was reverted in spite of consensus did you happen to call any other editor out or just me there might be other instances or apparent patterns of disruptive editing you may have missed إيان talk 06 22 19 september 2026 utc reply إيان i don t think quick enforcement requests are meant for this type of discussion since this noticeboard is intended to provide a structured sectioned format to avoid the long and convoluted threaded discussions frequently seen at wp ani reminders and warnings can be issued in response to full ae filings so if you believe there is enough evidence to justify a reminder or warning for an editor then you are free to submit a full ae filing with this evidence newslinger talk 11 57 19 september 2026 utc reply yevrowl edit latest comment 3 days ago 5 comments 4 people in discussion with the only admin to respond to this in months seeing no actionable misconduct closing without action pppery it has begun 02 22 17 september 2026 utc reply the following discussion has been closed please do not modify it this request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the request section below requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs not counting required information except by permission of a reviewing administrator request concerning yevrowl edit user who is submitting this request for enforcement tylerburden talk contribs deleted contribs logs filter log block user block log 14 55 20 july 2026 utc reply user against whom enforcement is requested yevrowl talk contribs deleted contribs logs filter log block user block log sanction or remedy to be enforced wp rusukr diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy and an explanation how these edits violate it 20 july 2026 adds unattributed statements in wikipedia s voice on territorial center of recruitment and social support despite being informed about the contentious topic and wp npov several times and being warned that repeating this would result in a report 25 may 2026 another example 21 may 2026 more of the same unattributed statement in wikivoice concerning specific military unit and not the article sibject itself 6 april 2027 in this edit aside from the usual wikivoice they cite a russian website s article named nazis threaten odessans with drones and missiles nationalists in ukraine threaten odessans after conflict with tcc a source rather obviously aligning with russian wp fringe narratives also contains wp blp violations diffs of relevant warnings or restrictions if any 22 may 2026 notified of contentious topics 30 june 2026 notified that they are violating wp npov their habit of writing in wikivoice also pointed out additional comments by editor filing complaint the article in question contained and still contains numerous issues a large amount which seems to have been added by this editor as they are the most frequent contributor who seems to have little interest in presenting it from a wp npov standpoint after finding the article i raised these issues with them and they have more or less doubled down on everything and continued doing the same thing i think an enforcement action is necessary here in response to lacanic i wasn t aware they were causing similar trouble on other articles it s starting to increasingly look like another rather obvious pro kremlin wp soapbox effort in response to yevrowl like i said on your talk page you claiming to be a victim of harassment because your disruption in a wp ctop is being called out is a serious bad faith accusation and obviously not accurate if you are going to claim to only cite wp rs how do you explain the fourth diff i can add that since the report yevrowl has more or less doubled down being very selective about what portions from the source they choose to include in their edits as seen in this diff contrary to wp npov a smaller issue is that despite repeated requests to stop adding wp bareref s and being shown a tool to format easily on their talk page they completely ignore this refusing to put in bare minimum effort in a wp ctop is not exactly a great sign of a collaborative editor tylerburden talk 17 32 26 august 2026 utc reply notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested diff discussion concerning yevrowl edit statements must be made in separate sections they may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs except by permission of a reviewing administrator administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements disruptive contributions may result in blocks statement by yevrowl edit the published information is based on the internet resources of the national police of ukraine the state bureau of investigation of ukraine accredited news agencies of ukraine and other wp rs if you feel that the media reports are not entirely neutral in tone or this media is not an appropriate source no one is stopping you from making edits but for some reason you chose wp ha instead read additional comments by editor filing complaint and see attempts at baseless labeling which clearly falls under the definitions of wp civ and possibly wp pa and very similar to wp aagf in view of the above will refrain from further polemics wish everyone goodness and a peaceful sky above their heads yevrowl talk 12 20 21 july 2026 utc reply additional comments by editor filing complaint statement by lacanic edit wiki editors can make mistakes but expectation is learning from mistakes or warnings from other editors fixation on territorial center of recruitment and social support as mentioned by user tylerburden is not helpful to creating a quality article editor clearly has no interest in wp nov or fixing the mistakes only changes when called out some other similar behaviors on other broadly related wp fringe of wp rusukr pages wikivoice on neo nazism in ukraine and in the edit the ref doesn t reflect the tone or fact in the diff user created federation of jewish communities of ukraine only to then be reverted for slipping in unsourced biased claims or what kind of biased writing is this revert on this diff afc submitted many times to where other editors ask please stop wasting the community s time article created on sanctioned journalist kremlin aligned journalist which was stubbed due to unattributed poor quality translation from ruwiki statement by username edit result concerning yevrowl edit this section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators comments by others will be moved to the sections above my impression is that this report is underripe tylerburden may well be correct that the content at territorial center of recruitment and social support is not properly framed and or wp undue but i don t see talk page discussion that would make any of yevrowl s edits in the initial report appear outright tendentious the diffs identified by lacanic are much more concerning but they re from entire years and hundreds of edits ago that would be a cause for concern if the edits highlighted by tb were of the exact same quality and using the same sources but they re not signed rosguill talk 19 39 31 july 2026 utc reply zalaraz edit latest comment 29 days ago 16 comments 7 people in discussion this request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the request section below requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs not counting required information except by permission of a reviewing administrator request concerning zalaraz edit user who is 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