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ear prophecy he always counted from the second time lehi exited the land of jerusalem 601 bc not the first 608 bc likewise whenever the nephites counted the time that had passed since lehi left jerusalem they always counted from when lehi left in 601 bc not from his 608 bc departure but for all other instances they referred to lehi s 608 bc departure for example when mormon wrote the heading to third nephi the book of nephi he was referring to the first time 608 bc lehi departed from the land of jerusalem the book of nephi the son of nephi who was the son of helaman and helaman was the son of helaman who was the son of alma who was the son of alma being a descendant of nephi who was the son of lehi who came out of jerusalem in the first year of the reign of zedekiah the king of judah and when the nephites spoke of their records being kept from the time that lehi left jerusalem onward see mosiah 28 20 alma 18 36 38 and 3 ne 5 14 15 they were referring to the first time 608 bc he departed from jerusalem because that was the year that the plates of brass record ended and the year the nephite scriptures began in other words that is the year that lehi and later nephi started doing scribal works namely writing down all the revelations they had received prophecies they had uttered visions and dreams they had seen miracles they had performed or witnessed angelic ministrations healings etc so as to make new nephite scriptural records upon parchment to later engrave upon metal plates by the time they left the land of jerusalem for the promised land in 601 bc they had already acquired seven years of divine manifestations which they had recorded in their new nephite books this is why the book of mormon history begins in 608 bc and not in 601 bc although lehi left jerusalem for good in 601 bc the nephite civilization officially began with the foundational visions lehi saw in 608 bc as recorded in 1 nephi chapter one 605 bc 601 bc lehi left jerusalem on jesus christ s birthday precisely 600 hundred years before he was born in april of 601 bc sometimes prior to that day and we do not know exactly how long before he received the liahona while dwelling in his tent in the valley of lemuel and following the directions on the ball took the group down the arabian peninsula ap until they got to the place where nephi broke his steel bow after making a new bow out of wood and obtaining food for everyone they retraced their steps and it came to pass that we did again take our journey traveling nearly the same course as in the beginning and after we had traveled for the space of many days we did pitch our tents again that we might tarry for the space of a time 1 ne 16 33 after arriving at or near the valley of lemuel again ishmael died id the whole group then went into the land of jerusalem r3 to the place of nahom and buried israel there all of these events getting the liahona traveling down then up the arabian peninsula ap ishmael dying id burying ishmael at nahom r3 occurred sometimes between 605 bc and april of 601 bc nephi s abridgement does not allow us to specify the dates more than that window however the next incident can be affixed to a specific date jesus birthday april 601 bc lehi then brought the group back out of jerusalem ll to their camp starting the 600 hundred year countdown to christ s birth an eight year journey 601 bc 593 bc the liahona now pointed nearly due east and so they took their journey across asia traveling for eight years until they finally reached the shores of china in 593 bc which they called bountiful bc 593 bc 587 bc after arriving in bountiful china bc they built a ship and set sail for north america following the same nearly eastward direction that the liahona pointed out we do not know how long they remained in bountiful bc and we do not know how long it took them to sail to north america here is the only thing that nephi let us know speculation the land of nephi is at the mouth of the mississippi river and it came to pass that we did again take our journey in the wilderness and we did travel nearly eastward from that time forth 1 ne 17 1 and it came to pass that after we had sailed for the space of many days we did arrive at the promised land and we went forth upon the land and did pitch our tents and we did call it the promised land 1 ne 18 23 once they arrived in north america if we assume that nephi s statement we went forth upon the land means that they did not remain precisely upon the seashore but that they continued following the nearly eastward direction on the liahona until it finally stopped working at some point farther inland then we must continue following the 30th parallel north into the north american continent until we get to the location that they called the promised land and the land of their first inheritance after pitching their tents planting their seeds and so forth lehi waxed old died and was buried soon afterward laman lemuel and the sons of ishmael planned to kill nephi and take control of the group but nephi was warned to flee into the wilderness with those that were righteous among them he took the liahona with him therefore we can assume it guided him on his journey in the same nearly eastward direction along the 30th parallel north the 30th parallel north comes in contact with the mississippi river at its mouth where it empties into the gulf of america some latter day saints take the view that the mississippi river is the river that the nephites called sidon it may be that prior to the destruction that happened in north america at the time of the crucifixion of jesus christ when all the land was altered that it was possible to travel over land from the point of their first landing on the western seashore of north america to the mississippi river which was the land that they called nephi 589 bc 587 bc nephi stated the following after they had sailed from bountiful china bc circa 593 bc and had arrived in north america and before the destruction of jerusalem in 587 bc for behold i have workings in the spirit which doth weary me even that all my joints are weak for those who are at jerusalem for had not the lord been merciful to show unto me concerning them even as he had prophets of old i should have perished also 1 ne 19 20 the fact that there were still people living in jerusalem at that time indicates that jerusalem had not as yet been destroyed which allows us to date nephi s teaching which he had given to his brothers to a time before the destruction that happened in 587 bc but if we look at the heading to chapter 19 we see that it is erroneously dated about 588 570 b c nephi s joints were likely weak because the siege had already started therefore i would say that nephi spoke those words in either 589 bc 588 bc or 587 bc after nebuchadnezzar had begun to besiege jerusalem but before the city had been breached and destroyed chapters 20 22 should likewise be dated to about 589 587 b c 587 bc in chapter one of 2 nephi lehi began to give what seems to have been his last sermon and he revealed that per a vision he had just seen jerusalem was at that point destroyed his words and that chapter can be dated to 587 bc or thereafter we know therefore that lehi lived at least until 587 bc which was six years after they arrived in bountiful china bc complete list of lds anarchist s posts april 4 2025 categories uncategorized tags book of mormon china lehi liahona miracles promised land word of god author lds anarchist comments 2 comments another chronology post after the fall of adam af before christ bc before common era bce anno domini which is latin for in the year of the lord ad common era ce 0 3968 bc bce the fall of adam happened in the spring season of this year 1 af 3967 bc bce in the spring season of this year one year passed since the fall of adam 1000 af 2968 bc bce in spring the first thousand years passed since the fall 2000 af 1968 bc bce in spring the second thousand years passed since the fall 2612 af 1356 bc bce the first jubilee year began in the fall of 1357 bc and ended in the fall of 1356 bc 3000 af 968 bc bce in spring the third thousand years passed since the fall 3367 af 601 bc bce lehi left jerusalem in the spring season of this year 3876 af 92 bc bce the first year of the nephite reign of the judges began in the spring season of this year 3965 af 3 bc bce the meridian of time a 70 year long period began in the spring season of this year with the appearance of the angel gabriel to zacharias 3966 af 2 bc bce john the baptist was born in the fall season of this year 3967 af 1 bc bce jesus christ was born in the spring season of this year this was the first nephite year of the sign beginning at jesus birth 3968 af the second nephite year of the sign began this year on the anniversary of jesus birth 1 ad ce 3997 af jesus christ began his ministry in the spring season of this year 30 ad ce 4000 af jesus christ died and was resurrected in the spring season of this year upon jesus rising from the dead the fourth thousand years passed 33 ad ce 4035 af the meridian of time ended in the spring season of this year 68 ad ce 5000 af in spring the fifth thousand years passed since the fall 1033 ad ce 5797 af the church of christ was restored on april 6th of this year this took place in the middle of the 66th jubilee year 1830 ad ce 5972 af after elias initiates it the spring season of this year will be the official start of the 70 year long period known as the end times 2005 ad ce 5992 af the 70th jubilee year will begin in the fall of 2025 ad and end in the fall of 2026 ad 2025 ad ce 6000 af the sixth thousand years since the fall of adam will pass in the spring season of this year 2033 ad ce 6042 af the 71st jubilee year will begin in the fall of 2074 during this particular jubilee year the second coming of jesus christ will happen the end times will officially come to a close and the great millennium will begin 2075 ad ce complete list of lds anarchist s posts march 30 2025 categories articles by ldsa tags book of mormon calendar chronology author lds anarchist comments leave a comment three nephite yearly calendars spring to spring because we know for a fact that jesus christ was crucified in the spring season when we affix his death to the ys calendar and correlate the other two nephite calendars to the ys calendar we discover that the years of all three nephite calendars begin and end in the season of spring therefore their chronology is counted from one spring season to the next not from january to january the following table s horizontal lines therefore represent successive spring seasons the thicker black line found at the top of the table and below the calendar headings represents the spring season of the year that lehi left jerusalem lj calendar number lj stands for the number of years that have passed since lehi left jerusalem the horizontal line above each of these numbers is the spring season in which that number of years has finally completed rj calendar number rj stands for year number of the reign of the judges the reign of the judges began in spring and the first year of the reign of the judges was reckoned from that first spring to the next spring the following year when an rj number appears it means that it represents the year that occurred between the spring season the horizontal line above the number that it began with and the spring season the horizontal line below the number that it ended with ys calendar ys stands for year the sign when the nephites witnessed the sign of the birth of jesus christ they began to count their years from the day of the sign onward the sign was seen on a specific day in the spring therefore the first year of the sign 1 ys was the year counted from the day in which the sign was seen all the way to the very same day a year later thus 2 ys began precisely one year after the sign was seen 3 ys began precisely two years after the sign was seen and so on and so forth when a ys number appears it means that it represents the year that occurred between the sign day of the spring season the horizontal line above it that it began with and the sign day of the following spring season horizontal line below it that it ended at bc ad calendar bc and ac years are reckoned from january to january but in this table we are imagining that we are checking the gregorian calendar only during springtime the horizontal line above these numbers represents the spring season of that bc or ad year the table is not concerned with any other part of the year only with spring for example when you read a bc number you ought to think this represents the spring season of the year number bc the horizontal lines below these numbers then represent the spring season of the following year skipping years i m only listing the years mentioned in the book of mormon text itself that deal with the main body of the nephites i ve skipped the timelines of zeniff the missionary work of the sons of mosiah and the jaredite chronology the birth of jesus christ jesus christ was born on a spring day using the first nephite calendar we can say that he was born 600 years after lehi left jerusalem 600 lj using the second nephite calendar we can say that he was born towards the beginning of the 92nd year of the reign of the judges 92 rj using the third nephite calendar we can say that he was born at the precise moment that the 1st year of the sign commenced 1 ys using our gregorian calendar we can say that he was born in the year 1 bc in springtime but the exact month and day is unknown the death of jesus christ jesus christ died on a spring day using the first nephite calendar we can say that he died 633 years after lehi left jerusalem 633 lj using the second nephite calendar we can say that he died in the beginning of the 125th year of the reign of the judges 125 rj using the third nephite calendar we can say that he died on the fourth day of the 34th year of the sign 34 ys using our gentile calendar we can say that he died in the year 33 ad in springtime but the exact month and day is unknown the ministry of christ to the nephites jesus christ had his 33rd birthday on the first day of the 34th year of the sign 34 ys died in the fourth day and was resurrected on the seventh day on our gregorian calendar this would have been the spring of 33 ad at the ending 3 ne 10 18 of the 34th year of the sign jesus appeared to the nephites and ministered to them given that nephite years begin and end in spring this means that on our gregorian calendar jesus ministry among the nephites took place either at the end of 33 ad in autumn or winter or in the beginning of 34 ad in winter or spring some final thoughts i have put the birth and death years of jesus christ in bold type also i double checked the three nephite calendars and corrected any miscalculations and typos that i found all three calendars now seem to line up perfectly but the table is quite long and i m too 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