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cle on en wp and israel 5 comments 4 from 20 years ago jimmy wales has a discussion with dale hoiberg editor in chief of britannica 1 comment 5 the signpost 16 september 2026 1 comment 6 user talk doug weller update 1 comment 7 update on staff union vote and information from wmf 26 comments 8 a barnstar for you 1 comment 9 question 5 comments toggle the table of contents user talk jimbo wales add languages page contents not supported in other languages user page talk english read view source view history tools tools move to sidebar hide actions read view source view history general what links here related changes user contributions user logs view user groups upload file permanent link page information get shortened url switch to legacy parser print export download as pdf printable version in other projects appearance move to sidebar hide skip to toc skip to bottom skip to bottom from wikipedia the free encyclopedia latest comment 11 hours ago by alanscottwalker in topic question welcome to my talk page please sign and date your entries by inserting at the end start a new talk topic jimbo welcomes your comments and updates he has an open door policy he holds the founder s seat on the wikimedia foundation s board of trustees the current trustees occupying community selected seats are laurentius victoria kritzolina and nadzik the wikimedia foundation s lead manager of trust and safety is jan eissfeldt this page is semi protected and you will not be able to leave a message here unless you are a registered editor instead you can leave a message here this is jimbo wales s talk page where you can send them messages and comments add new text under old text new to wikipedia welcome learn to edit get help start a new topic assume good faith be polite and avoid personal attacks be welcoming to newcomers seek dispute resolution if needed archives index index a b c d e f g 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 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and their help with messages that i cannot reply to quickly is appreciated this talkpage has been mentioned by multiple media organizations matthew gault 8 december 2021 wikipedia editors very mad about jimmy wales nft of a wikipedia edit vice media the trouble began when wales posted an announcement about the auction on his user talk page a kind of message board where users communicate directly with each other emanuel maiberg 21 august 2025 jimmy wales says wikipedia could use ai editors call it the antithesis of wikipedia 404 media retrieved 22 august 2025 the ongoing debate about incorporating ai into wikipedia in various forms bubbled up again in july when wales posted an idea to his wikipedia user talk page about how the platform could use a large language model as part of its article creation process mia sato 29 may 2026 hundreds of prolific wikipedia editors are threatening to go on strike the verge retrieved 29 may 2026 jimmy wales a cofounder of wikipedia argued with contributors on the site s discussion pages saying it was time to get serious about meeting community needs and assuring volunteers that there would still be dedicated staff working on the wishlist volunteers did not find it comforting shortcut wp jimbotalk wp jimbotalk centralized discussion village pumps policy tech proposals idea lab wmf misc proposed change to notability criteria for local elected officials and unelected candidates arbcom election rfc 2026 accepting merge nominations at mfd updating the good article nominations process feedback on proposed redesign of community wishlist for a listing of ongoing discussions see the dashboard view edit history watch archive talk purge quiet until next tuesday latest comment 9 days ago 12 comments 7 people in discussion i ll be back to work full time from next tuesday that s just before the union election results will be known and the wmf is respecting a quiet period at the moment and so a lot of the discussion that we will want to have should resume then i am not saying i absolutely won t be here at all i m just explaining that i ll be pretty quiet family vacation in greece jimbo wales talk 15 43 24 august 2026 utc reply is it possible to have a more formal announcement of quiet period s in future with particular reference to any gap between the outcome of the us process and the uk process geni talk 17 03 24 august 2026 utc reply appreciate the heads up and i hope you enjoy your vacation but any chance we could get some response around the timing of the planned c level meeting as i said 11 days ago some idea of a timeline from you such as how far out this meeting is scheduled would also be reassuring i can t believe i ve gone from asking when was littler mendelson first hired to could you possibly let us know when you ll be meeting with the c team so you can ask them if they ll tell us when littler mendelson was first hired and even that question has gone unanswered for the better part of two weeks in solidarity gorillawarfare she her talk 17 18 24 august 2026 utc reply do we have any updates now that it s wednesday clovermoss talk 19 13 2 september 2026 utc reply my understanding is that the election formalities will be today and so that ll end the quiet period jimbo wales talk 12 12 3 september 2026 utc reply do you have any info about when littler was hired yet betseg talk 06 55 4 september 2026 utc reply i m expecting a post here from the wmf on that very soon jimbo wales talk 10 11 5 september 2026 utc reply do we have a date for when very soon is i ve also heard that they plan on keeping littler during the negotiation process if that s true they really shouldn t clovermoss talk 00 55 10 september 2026 utc reply by the close of play today friday it will have been five working days which takes us beyond very soon as your expectations have been dashed do you have either more information a plan to get it or any further expectations geni talk 00 08 11 september 2026 utc reply personally i don t care in the slightest when littler mendelson was hired but i care very deeply that the wiki movement be led by people i can count on to keep their commitments this whole fiasco has left me deeply disappointed in the c suite the board and now you as well promises don t build trust they borrow it and the longer they go unfulfilled the more interest accrues i m telling you this because i think there is still a chance to fix this when the chances run out i won t be complaining here i ll be out there contributing constructively to some other movement that hasn t been captured by a self protective embiggenment corporation lwg talk vopov 14 20 11 september 2026 utc reply there is a reason that people are asking when littler mendelson was hired wmf ceo bernadette meehan said at wikimania that no decision had been made regarding voluntarily recognizing the union and said we support the employee s right to unionize was this before or after she decided to hire union busting law firm littler mendelson jimbo wrote there s nothing union busting here at all there are no union avoidance law firms involved here and i believe him that at the time he wrote that either it was before littler mendelson was hired or it was after and jimbo and presumably the rest of the board had not been told about it was this before or after meehan decided to hire littler mendelson keep in mind that on littler mendelson s own web page they say that they are known as the union busting law firm and multiple sources agree guy macon talk 16 49 11 september 2026 utc reply yeah no it totally makes sense that the timing is important for understanding the wmf wwu conflict and meehan s conduct therein it s just that the wmf wwu conflict isn t my core concern here my core concern is that i expect leadership at least those like jimbo who are from here to live out the wiki ethos of boldness and transparency that built this encyclopedia or at least be honest with us if they have moved on from that ethos to me that s a lot more important than union or no union or law firm or no law firm or ceo or no ceo lwg talk vopov 17 46 11 september 2026 utc reply wiki workers united wins us recognition via nlrb election latest comment 6 days ago 14 comments 8 people in discussion by a vote of 158 to 14 us wmf workers have elected to recognize wiki workers united superpianoman9167 talk 02 22 4 september 2026 utc reply no not true they elected to join the communications workers of america not something called wiki workers united wbm1058 talk 14 56 4 september 2026 utc reply wiki workers united is affiliated with cwa local 9415 superpianoman9167 talk 15 00 4 september 2026 utc reply ok so they joined the oakland california based local though presumably most of them don t live or work in oakland or probably even in california for that matter due to covid 19 and until further notice all membership meetings will be held via zoom so i guess that matters less what other bay area employers have workers in this local i have unanswered questions too but am less concerned about the questions asked below wbm1058 talk 15 36 4 september 2026 utc reply wwu seems to me more like a campaign not a union itself perhaps affiliated with the campaign to organize digital employees wbm1058 talk 15 46 4 september 2026 utc reply wwu us cwa is the bargaining unit and it will negotiate with wmf the affiliation to local 9415 is an internal governance matter of communication workers of america and determined questions like financing of the union staffers lawyers and eventually the union dues of members once a collective agreement is negotiated so it is all of the above in solidarity shushugah talk 20 48 4 september 2026 utc reply wikipedia workers unionize for the first time gråbergs gråa sång talk 04 56 4 september 2026 utc reply glad to see this but it ultimately doesn t change much i m still frustrated we don t have the date littler was hired among many other unanswered questions i ll hear the wmf out in case they wanted to wait until after the vote was finished if they start to engage now but given the pr slop message on bernadette s talk page on meta i m not optimistic skarmory talk contribs 07 07 4 september 2026 utc reply i expect something from the wmf to be posted here soon on that question i have encouraged them to be as transparent and open as possible to the point of it feeling uncomfortable and they don t disagree the quiet period is over now obviously and we move on to the next phase as for me i welcome the result and i m happy that it s clear what i d love to see from everyone is kindness and assuming good faith and of course by that i mean both the wmf and their critics i was happy to see the union acknowledging the wmf s good actions here and i hope the critics will take that to heart preceding unsigned comment added by jimbo wales talk contribs 10 04 5 september 2026 utc reply what do you as a member of the board hope the wmf will take to heart cmd talk 12 25 6 september 2026 utc reply the need for transparency as much as is possible jimbo wales talk 06 11 8 september 2026 utc reply i hope so too cmd talk 08 52 8 september 2026 utc reply any news on that post from the wmf parabolist talk 04 05 11 september 2026 utc reply yeah i would also like to know if we have any sort of timeline on the post i can understand it taking a while if they re making a very real effort to address our concerns but it would be nice to know that s what s actually happening given that they haven t given us anything other than pr speak so far i m trying to assume good faith here but it s hard when the wmf is barely communicating what they have given us so far is a bunch of pr speak that isn t human isn t transparent and per meta wwufactcheck isn t entirely truthful someone doing that on wikipedia itself would be pretty likely to find themselves blocked eventually because they would ve exhausted all the good faith afforded to them skarmory talk contribs 08 42 14 september 2026 utc reply article on en wp and israel latest comment 9 days ago 5 comments 3 people in discussion wikipedia as infrastructure for knowledge poisoning bias mechanisms and countermeasures from institute for national security studies israel it s very long so i haven t read it but there might be something interesting in there gråbergs gråa sång talk 14 56 10 september 2026 utc reply thanks i ve read about 10 of it so far and i agree with you it looks interesting i think we do have a lot of problems around npov not just in this area and i really want to bring about a wider community conversation about how we can improve i don t know where this particular piece is going but i want us all to grapple with the issue jimbo wales talk 15 03 11 september 2026 utc reply it is perhaps useful to know that the author has a long history of writing articles critical of wikipedia s coverage of israel compare wikipedia wikipedia signpost 2024 03 29 special report for a previous one kusma talk 16 09 11 september 2026 utc reply yes but it s possible to both be critical of wikipedia and also to be interesting and right on a particular point jimbo wales talk 16 19 11 september 2026 utc reply that is possible even if the article pov is how do we make en wp better for israel it may have useful points gråbergs gråa sång talk 16 27 11 september 2026 utc reply from 20 years ago jimmy wales has a discussion with dale hoiberg editor in chief of britannica latest comment 7 days ago 1 comment 1 person in discussion will wikipedia mean the end of traditional encyclopedias the wall street journal september 12 2006 guy macon talk 18 13 13 september 2026 utc reply the signpost 16 september 2026 latest comment 5 days ago 1 comment 1 person in discussion news and notes the balance of power wikimedia employees unionize officer departs the signpost gains sister on wiktionary in the media shocking photos may be changed on wikipedia the image gallery anyone can edit disinformation report have un secretary 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