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ose documents were the first substantial sourcebase i got into with my doctoral research than with the poor old monks at elins though so i m not finished musing here by any means but that of course makes it something i can put before you all and see what you think 1 the big work itself can be read as jean mabillon de re diplomatica libri vi in quibus quidquid ad veterum instrumentorum antiquitatem materiam scripturam stilum quidquid ad sigilla monogrammata subscriptiones ac notas chronologicas quidquid inde ad antiquariam historicam forensemque disciplinam pertinet explicatur illustratur accedunt commentarius de antiquis regum francorum palatiis veterum scripturarum varia specimina tabulis lx comprehensa nova ducentorum amplius monumentorum collectio luteciae parisiorum 1709 thanks to the getty institute whose copy is in the internet archive here and for studies deeper than mine here you could see what i was set when i was young viz david knowles jean mabillon in knowles the historian and character and other essays edd c n l brooke giles constable cambridge 1964 pp 213 238 or peter gay victor g wexler jean mabillon in gay wexler edd historians at work new york city ny 1972 4 vols vol 2 pp 161 163 but as proof anyone still cares in the twenty first century also caroline williams diplomatic attitudes from mabillon to metadata in journal of the society of archivists vol 26 april 2005 pp 1 24 doi 10 1080 00039810500047417 2 i got it as jean mabillon on diplomatics in gay wexler historians at work vol 2 pp 164 198 leonard e boyle diplomatics in james m powell ed medieval studies an introduction 2nd edn syracuse ny 1992 pp 69 101 also is basically a systematization of mabillon 3 ramon ordeig i mata ed catalunya carolíngia volum iv els comtats d osona i manresa memòries de la secció històrico arqueològica 53 barcelona 1999 3 vols 4 i ve argued the case against sant joan s endowment most recently in jonathan jarrett la fundació de sant joan en el context de l establiment dels comtats catalans trans xavier costa in irene brugués costa and coloma boada edd el monestir de sant joan primer cenobi femení dels comtats catalans 887 1017 barcelona 2019 pp 83 107 but that wasn t my first go the dodgy inventory is ordeig catalunya carolíngia iv doc no x 5 ramon ordeig i mata ed catalunya carolíngia volum 8 els comtats d urgell cerdanya i berga memòries de la secció històrico arqueològica 111 barcelona 2020 2 vols doc no 594 the document was previously edited as benigne marquès sala ed els documents del monestir de santa cecília d elins 881 1198 urgellia vol 15 urgell 2005 pp 9 174 doc no 20 which i haven t been able to access 6 for bonhom once again see anscari m mundó el jutge bonsom in jesús alturo i perucho joan bellès josep m font rius yolanda garcía mundó edd liber iudicum popularis ordenat pel jutge bonsom de barcelona textos jurídicis catalans lleis i costums 1 1 barcelona 2003 online here pp 101 118 7 the trial record is marqués els documents doc no 33 which again i haven t been able to get at and because of its date misses publication in the catalunya carolíngia 8 sal la s appearances are very numerous i counted 71 when i did but of those more than half are in the urgell archive and so printed in cebrià baraut ed els documents dels anys 981 1010 de l arxiu capitular de la seu d urgell in urgellia vol 3 urgell 1980 pp 7 166 and the pre 1000 ones in the catalunya carolíngia however there isn t really a focused study of the man i d recommend more than jonathan jarrett pathways of power in late carolingian catalonia ph d thesis university of london 2005 online here pp 294 308 8 bis although as said in n 7 above i can t actually get at the text that article i mentioned gave me this extra context and it is climent miró i tuset els monestirs com a part de l estratègia dels comtes d urgell en el control del territori el cas de santa cecília d elins 881 1085 in annals del centre d estudis comarcals del ripollès vol 25 ibix col loquis d estudis transpirinencs 8 ripoll 2014 pp 349 360 online here where see pp 356 357 8 ter the others are marqués els documents doc nos 13 16 17 18 25 29 of which the first four are printed as ordeig catalunya carolíngia 8 doc nos 445 467 468 508 and are thus online for extra points tell me what s wrong with no 468 elins 17 that means it at least must be a forgery otherwise that ll be a future blog post 8 quater i don t want to try and cover all the references in this debate here at this late stage but a recent treatment which puts bishop ermengol squarely in the hotseat is carles gascón chopo and oliver vergés i pons l acta de consagració de la catedral d urgell un fals del temps del bisbe ermengol redactat entre 1016 i 1024 in afers vol 32 no 86 2017 pp 191 220 on academia edu here i don t agree with everything vergés has written but i think he s on the mark with this one 9 jonathan jarrett archbishop ató of osona false metropolitans on the marca hispanica in archiv für diplomatik vol 56 münchen 2010 pp 1 42 10 the outside frames of the window are ordeig catalunya carolíngia 8 doc no 586 of june 970 surviving only in a seventeenth century copy and almost certainly interpolated or failing it ibid 585 of may 970 also anachronistic and suspicious failing which you have to go back to ordeig catalunya carolíngia iv doc no 1057 of february that year and then at the other side ibid doc no 1107 while in the middle we have two papal bulls he asked for which annoyingly don t carry dates but for which we have external dating that makes january 971 most likely in late june 971 also an embassy arrived at córdoba which borrell was understood to have sent and i don t see how that impression could arise if he hadn t sent it which probably makes his return from rome no later than march the same year for that see dolors bramon de quan érem o no musulmans textos del 713 al 1010 continuació de l obra de j m millàs i vallicrosa jaume caresmar 13 vic 2000 425 426 on miro s appointment at girona apart from jarrett archbishop ató compare ramon martí delà cesari i ató primers arquebisbes dels comtes prínceps de barcelona 951 953 981 in analecta sacra tarraconensia vol 67 barcelona 1994 pp 369 386 online here and josep maria salrach i marès l assassinat de l arquebisbe ató 971 i les lluites pel poder en els orígens de catalunya discurs de recepció de josep maria salrach i marès com a membre numerari de la secció històrico arqueològica llegit el dia 30 de maig de 2018 barcelona 2018 sadly but predictably no longer online 13 493689 79 997592 4 comments posted in catalonia charters currently reading now working on tagged borrell ii forgery mabillon ramon ordeig i mata santa cecília d elins urgell gallery one man churches in the western isles posted on 27 may 2026 this gallery contains 16 photos in recent years a lot of my posts have been collections of photos from very long ago of things medieval and while that is in some ways fine i m here to tell you about them it has struck continue reading 2 comments frontier warlords in ankara posted on 17 may 2026 2 comments this is a post that got shunted down the queue for reasons of respect and priority i originally wrote it about four months ago it still might want reporting though so here you are every now and then i remember that the ostensible purpose of this blog is to publicise my endeavours rather than report on academic things that happened years ago or sadly commemorate dead scholars of course for much of the last decade and especially the last few years there hasn t been as much to report as once there was but i m kind of getting through that now you will recall probably that i have left the uk and headed for india via a stay in türkiye which for visa reasons i had to punctuate with a short stay in my actual research area and more specifically in seu d urgell a bit of catalonia i d never before visited i will i promise report on that i am reckoning to be pretty brutal about chewing up backlog from here on but right now something on more than just tourism even though it was really useful academic tourism your humble author indicating his nerves in his body language before a lectern in bilkent universitesi ankara image by luca zavagno and used with permission no instead i gave a paper hey that had been a while and the previous one for no fault of the organisers not really a great experience anyway the gap had been long enough actually to give me nerves before presenting though that was also because i was less than confident in my material even on the train down to the place in question i had a 12 000 word text with no clear argument rather than the lucid 7 500 which was really desirable a situation from which my beloved wife had calmly to help me down 1 it did go all right in the end but let me tell you how this had occurred alarmingly this is a story which goes back to 2016 when at a set of sessions at the international medieval congress under the auspices of my rethinking the medieval frontier project whose website i see has finally gone as i assumed it would i will have to resurrect it here i presented a paper which as i saw it filled a gap i admit it was mainly a teaching gap right then and there i had that spring been trying to use the infamous banū qasī andalusī frontier warlords par excellence as a teaching example of the kind of space for independence granted by the breadth of the christian muslim frontier zones in the early medieval iberian peninsula there is probably a separate post to write about my twisting efforts to avoid using the words spain or spanish here but for now just take my word for it i have reasons for not doing so now the thing about the banū qasī is that pretty much every book on al andalus and a fair few on the christian polities north of it contain something on the banū qasī and it s usually max two paragraphs roger collins finds a page and a half and in 2014 jesus brufal published an article which i hadn t then found which uses them as one of its case studies and gets up to six 1 there is a lot more in spanish though still not huge amounts but of course i couldn t set spanish to my students 2 so my double goal then was to have a leeds paper that responded to our frontier theme which also put something about the banū qasī into a hopefully printable form for my students of course both needed an argument but i didn t have too much trouble with that the paper however rested very heavily on a book by jesús lorenzo jiménez that had come out in 2010 and he turned up for the paper as well so probably wasn t very impressed by my novelty so next year i gave my students the draft version and wondered what in the end i would do with it 3 this is arnedo the oldest certain base of our subject family jesús lorenzo s book made me look this place up and suddenly understand a bit more of why they always had somewhere to bounce back from image by exequias flickr licensed under cc by sa 2 0 wikimedia commons now fast forward to 2022 when the international medieval congress returned to the theme of borders which it had been meant to have in the pandemic year and couldn t i was reluctantly persuaded that it would probably look a bit feeble if the leeds based project on medieval frontiers and borders couldn t make some kind of a showing at this huge conference on medieval borders and frontiers in leeds so i put together two sessions and a round table with the aid much needed of catarina madureira villamariz of the universidade nova de lisboa who has become a friend of the project in recent years of course i never got as far as reporting all this here because well the usual reasons but they did happen and at the end of it while i was unknown to myself busy incubating the dose of covid 19 i d picked up during the sessions we sat at benches outside the old bar and decided together that even though my other publication plans for the project were dead in the water we could manage at least to put together a themed journal issue and that would be something to show at last for all of these years of effort 4 so once i was over the covid 19 i started on this i sort of resolved to myself that if i could get it done with no more than an e mail a day and hopefully fewer i could find the time somehow and so it has proven though we re not finished yet and my goodness there have been a lot of those e mails the story of this publication will be told in its due course like when it s out but for now let s just observe that it left me with the problem of what i myself wanted to offer and i decided that given the global theme we were intentionally adopting and the very sketchy nature of some of the papers i ve given for the project the best option was probably to finish the banū qasī paper at last and as it turned out a fuller literature search led me to a conference paper by lorenzo and juan josé larrea arguing that in fact the banū qasī were not on the frontier and i thought this is just what i need because that is only a matter of how you define a frontier and how it changes which is kind of exactly one of the things i think this project is about 5 so in what time i could find i wrote a new version explaining what i thought was missing from that perspective and sent it in that was in fact pretty much what i was doing instead of being at the 2023 imc it went off in late july 2023 later in 2025 in another adventure as yet untold and for which i haven t yet properly processed the photos because that is also a backlog i got to see the landscape around the family s second base tudela and again understand why it was they kept losing it especially around the town itself where i seem to have no good pictures it is pretty approachable but still dramatic photography by me through a train window peer review when it came was shall we say decently robust and i think i know who at least two of the three reviewers were one of them felt that really this wasn t doing much about the banū qasī themselves that lorenzo hadn t already done and i was encouraged to consider what i was actually adding to the scholarship another insisted i stop being lazy and actually do some proper reading not how they put it but how i felt it on the kingdom or princedom of pamplona and its relations with islam and doing so made me realise that the foundation on which i d based my argument was in part faulty 6 this was one of a number of things which made me aware that with this step across the frontier i really wasn t in my core zones of knowledge any more but because i was by then properly in the hole and also chasing other submissions for the issue which made mine redundant unless they came in i didn t find time to address this until i entered my lately productive period of unemployment but at that point i had so many things i d promised and each took longer than expected 7 and that would have been fine except that i had allowed a good friend of mine to set me a deadline look there was advertising and 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