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topping julian assange s followers turning his article into a hagiography and biasing any connected articles if that was just what specifico was doing i certainly wouldn t object but they seem to be acting out of hate for assange and determined to do anything they can to remove anything that might be in his favor even when well documented and obviously relevant and due and that includes disruptive editing techniques to try and get their way and remove editors they don t like nadvolum talk 08 44 10 august 2022 utc reply statement by jéské couriano edit based on the linked ds alert and the talk page notice referred to i have to assume this is being filed under ap2 as the case and the post 1992 american politics ds regime as the remedy nadvolum when you file a request here you are obligated to link the case and specify the remedy you re filing under for bans under ds link to the ds authorisation and the ban notice thread jéské couriano v _ v a little blue bori 20 16 7 august 2022 utc reply statement by firefangledfeathers edit i encourage specifico to admit as quickly as possible that their understanding of the cr restriction was incorrect i hope to see nadvolum commit to politely bringing up possible 1rr or cr violations at the offending user s talk page before bringing the issue to the next step of conduct dispute resolution it would help if we discussed formalizing the cr restriction and including a link to the explanatory essay wp consensus required in any talk page banners or edit notices as the text commonly used and used at talk julian assange is not explicit about how removal is handled assuming specifico and nadvolum can both own up to handling this imperfectly i ask that admins refrain from sanctions in this matter and nudge us all to move on firefangledfeathers talk contribs 01 52 8 august 2022 utc reply statement by activelydisinterested edit eeurgh i came across this and was involved with the discussion on the talk page i m unsure if there was a blp issue here but the content was definitely highly skewed to paint as much blame on the articles subject as possible i would still object to the content as is because of that although that s not relevant here it doesn t look like this is the only page with this issue i dropped out once it became apparent that we were just going in circles lcu activelydisinterested transmissions co ords 10 30 9 august 2022 utc reply statement by nableezy edit the number of times i see a report and think you know if you just apologize and say my understanding was wrong and ill be mindful to make sure i follow the rules as you have just patiently explained them to me this would be closed without even a logged warning but if youre going to argue no im right and this is why youre going to get sanctioned increases by one more oh and you could still probably say that and this would still probably be closed with at most a logged warning to be mindful of the cr restriction nableezy 14 32 9 august 2022 utc reply statement by username edit result concerning specifico edit this section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators comments by others will be moved to the sections above nadvolum please specify the remedy to be enforced or i will close this thread guerillero parlez moi 19 44 7 august 2022 utc reply specifico definitely reverted out of process the question is whether there is a blp issue at hand or other exemption which i don t see at first glance he needs to come here and explain dennis brown 2 21 44 7 august 2022 utc reply specifico i appreciate the detailed reply and i note the frustration and sincerity but as i noted the revert really was out of process a technical violation by virtue of the number of reverts again a blp exemption didn t seem obvious for that exact revert and you didn t seem to claim or explain it if you thought it was as for reverting back simply because you felt that was the prior consensus that gets muddy for admin who would have to dig into determining and sometimes guessing consensus this is why we have bright line rules against multiple reverts i get your frustration i do but i need to focus on this event not just the past was there a specific reason you had to revert instead of going to the talk page dennis brown 2 00 45 8 august 2022 utc reply major edit to consensus stable version revert of that edit you reinstating that edit after it had already been reverted is there a blp issue specifically with the content of that edit can you point me to a specific discussion and consensus that the removal of material was necessary i m not trying to oversimplify it but yes on the surface it appears you were out of process keeping it short can you show the discussion consensus or blp issue dennis brown 2 01 17 8 august 2022 utc reply put another way material was removed then that removal was challenged as inclusion was considered consensus the only way your additional revert would be considered kosher is if you can show a prior discussion establishing consensus to remove it per wp consensus required an essay but it sums it up without that consensus or other exemption then yes your edit is a problem that s how cr works to preserve the status quo unless a new consensus is demonstrated deleting material isn t given special privilege over adding it unless 3rrno exemptions apply dennis brown 2 01 27 8 august 2022 utc reply i think one has to ask why cr was implemented in the first place and i feel that edit warring was the primary reason particularly slow motion edit warring which doesn t cross the bright line of 3rr there already existed policy to prevent undue negative material from being piled on and i don t agree with your take on this and from my eyes your revert was a violation of cr what i have to consider is what would the greater community say and i think they would disagree with you saying cr was designed to specifically prevent these types of reverts it appears nothing was so urgent that it required you to do the 2nd revert on the material and while you claim it was consensus you haven t offered any proof i can believe you believed the 2nd revert was acceptable but from my understanding of policy it was not i want to leave this open for other admin to opine dennis brown 2 10 59 8 august 2022 utc reply it seems clear this was a policy violation the real question is what do we do about it ealdgyth is correct in that it would have been better if nv had requested a revert but all this had been previously discussed on the talk page and the consensus was clear in late 2021 and there has been contention between these two for some time as specifico hasn t indicated they understand the problem and has in fact doubled down this forces our hand and requires a response dennis brown 2 11 49 9 august 2022 utc reply doubling down might be a bit strong but my point is you are holding to the idea that there is nothing wrong with your editing if you were a new editor it might be possible to just log a warning and move on but you ve had problems in the past and really should know better so i don t think the community is going to accept a warning as adequate this is putting me in tough position as a good solution isn t obvious dennis brown 2 14 30 9 august 2022 utc reply my reading is similar to what dennis came to the cr is designed to prevent this sort of constant low grade edit warring and make folks discuss on the talk page while it would be nice if nv had given a chance for a self revert that s not required consider this notice to nv that not everything on wikipedia is written in the rules and that being kind and discussing one on one with another editor before escalating to a noticeboard or other public venue is the kind thing to do but that doesn t change that i agree with dennis on idea behind cr is to avoid this sort of edit warring ealdgyth talk 11 39 9 august 2022 utc reply kendall clarks edit it would be better if more admin would participate and i were not closing so many of these but this is pretty obvious and their insisting on continuing to edit after it was pointed out makes it a simple matter they have used to talk page but have refused to discuss this issue at hand it seems they were filed on at ae once but someone withdrew it after they started using the talk page see editor s talk page unquestionably they know and understand the restriction but refuse to abide by it blocked one week dennis brown 2 12 28 11 august 2022 utc reply the following discussion has been closed please do not modify it this request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the request section below requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs not counting required information except by permission of a reviewing administrator request concerning kendall clarks edit user who is submitting this request for enforcement supreme deliciousness talk contribs deleted contribs logs filter log block user block log 06 23 7 august 2022 utc reply user against whom enforcement is requested kendall clarks talk contribs deleted contribs logs filter log block user block log sanction or remedy to be enforced 500 30 rule diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy and an explanation how these edits violate it users that edit arab israeli content must have 500 edits this user does not in the following diffs he is editing a i content 6 august 15 july 15 july 15 july 15 july 15 july 15 july 14 july 29 june if discretionary sanctions are requested supply evidence that the user is aware of them see wp ac ds awareness and alerts was told at his talkpage by two separate users that he is not allowed to edit a i content yet he has now continued to do so after previously violating the 500 30 rule and also violated the 1rr and 3rr in july additional comments by editor filing complaint notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested discussion concerning kendall clarks edit statements must be made in separate sections they may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs except by permission of a reviewing administrator administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements disruptive contributions may result in blocks statement by kendall clarks edit statement by goldenring edit user clearly not 500 30 qualified appears to be attempting to argue that druze is not under arbpia sanctions eg this edit but the talk page has the arbpia template there right at the top kendall clarks i d suggest apologising and abandoning editing in this area or a block to enforce the sanction seems the only option this is now for the second time of asking goldenring talk 11 58 11 august 2022 utc reply statement by username edit result concerning kendall clarks edit this section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators comments by others will be moved to the sections above closing with obvious result dennis brown 2 12 28 11 august 2022 utc reply ghazaalch edit ghazaalch is warned against personalizing discussions further such behavior will likely lead to more severe sanctions vanamonde talk 16 38 12 august 2022 utc reply the following discussion has been closed please do not modify it this request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the request section below requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs not counting required information except by permission of a reviewing administrator request concerning ghazaalch edit user who is submitting this request for enforcement nmasiha talk contribs deleted contribs logs filter log block user block log 09 54 9 august 2022 utc reply user against whom enforcement is requested ghazaalch talk contribs deleted contribs logs filter log block user block log sanction or remedy to be enforced wikipedia arbitration requests case iranian politics diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy and an explanation how these edits violate it ghazaalch makes up wp aspersions in rfcs against other editors and rfc is the ideal place for him and the other pro pmoi users as i said in a previous arbitration because finding some people to vote for them is much easier than convincing their opponents using reliable sources one of these voters for example is nmasiha who has appeared after a year to vote in these rfcs ghazaalch talk 06 47 6 august 2022 utc what ghazaalch is saying about me here is false despite ghazaalch s baseless character attack i made edits to the pmoi article in february and in its talk page on may and june and have also edited other articles in this area although most of my edits are in the fawiki this is poisoning the well and can wrongly influence consensus of rfcs diffs of previous relevant sanctions if any i know there were other ae cases but don t know if there are sanctions if discretionary sanctions are requested supply evidence that the user is aware of them see wp ac ds awareness and alerts recent ae report about ghazaalch additional comments by editor filing complaint like others are discerning the problem is not only referencing other editors as pro mek users the problem is ghazaalch s constant aspersions such as saying that in those rfcs there are different accounts here with different jobs which are now led by fad ariff or saying those same editors are finding some people to vote for them is much easier than convincing their opponents using reliable sources or suggesting without any evidence at all a link between editors involved in those rfcs as well as a link with past blocked editors nmasiha talk 12 14 12 august 2022 utc reply notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested discussion concerning ghazaalch edit statements must be made in separate sections they may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs except by permission of a reviewing administrator administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements disruptive contributions may result in blocks statement by ghazaalch edit this tool shows that nmasiha s first appearance in 2022 in this page was to vote in an rfc and has continued this job till now i am not talking about other pages so there are different accounts here with different jobs nmasiha s job was to vote iraniangal777 s job was to revert thedreamboat s job was to edit on behalf of the blocked users and so on see stefka bulgaria barcrmac and idealigic for the pro mek users who were topic banned before the new ones fad ariff thedreamboat hogo 2020 and iraniangal777 emerged concerning rfcs being an ideal place for pro mek users see el c s comment here where they talk about a super trim rfc launched which only redacted longstanding agreed upon text to one tenth of its original size link to the super trim rfc that admin el c was referring to and now the same supper trimmed section cult section is subject to two new rfcs in spite of the previous ones to reduce the small section even more because the pro mek users now led by fad ariff don t like the mek group to be called 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