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t a club in a red shirt but not one in a blue shirt and that b providing the club s shirt is red and has a dragon on it they will support in sufficient numbers to pay off the rest of the langston debt reinvigorate the club s fortunes in both senses of the word and allow the investors to see a return on their investment as to a i think this is simplistic and over stated as to b i can understand the malaysian investors looking to the marketing success of manchester united but they might better have a word with balram chainrai or those behind the k k shonan management corporation 5 erstwhile saviours of plymouth argyle what is happening at cardiff is little short of seeing owners who view a club as a commodity which can have some brand value spray painted onto it to make it stand out from the rest a simple question to dato chan tien ghee if the key to your success lies in owning a red club why didn t you buy a red one if the answer is simply well peter hadn t got a red one in his briefcase to show us god preserve us others have tried this drastic rebranding with some commercial success an obvious example is that of sv austria salzburg which red bull bought and rebranded as fc red bull salzburg in 2005 complete with change in club colours and logo the new club has enjoyed considerable success since the takeover but the old club had also and that is where the comparison begins to break down red bull bought an already successful club and turned it into an even more successful one but in doing so they alienated fans to such an extent they started a new club which they called sv austria salzburg and which has already climbed wimbledon and fc united of manchester style from the seventh tier of the austrian football pyramid to the third tier i ll leave my final thought to the sv austria salzburg fans who are reported as having raised this banner in the past few days share this share on facebook opens in new window facebook share on x opens in new window x share on reddit opens in new window reddit like loading posted in cashflow debts fans investors marketing merchandising ownership stadium strategy tagged cashflow debts fans investors marketing merchandising ownership stadium strategy 5 comments the magic of football still there in the cups posted by john beech on january 27 2012 it s increasingly difficult to see any magic in the beautiful game other than black magic especially when you look at it from a financial perspective you only need to think of the narrow escapes at plymouth and wrexham recently and both portsmouth and darlington are standing on the edge of the precipice the cups may be a different matter however recently louise taylor suggested that the fa cup third round had failed to cast any magic on fans 1 below i ve taken her data and in italics added some more it struck me that whatever magic there might be would be associated with the possibility of a giant killing or as the bbc have started to call it a cupset did the possibility of a cupset bring out the fans especially in the case where the minnow was playing at home home club tier away club tier away home tier fa cup attendance average league attendance difference mk dons 3 qpr 1 2 19 506 8 217 11 289 swindon town 4 wigan 1 3 13 238 7 887 5 351 bristol rovers 4 aston villa 1 3 10 883 6 122 4 761 gillingham 4 stoke 1 3 9 872 5 482 4 390 macclesfield town 4 bolton 1 3 5 757 2 222 3 535 fleetwood town 5 blackpool 2 3 5 092 1 781 3 311 dagenham redbridge 4 millwall 2 2 3 396 2 161 1 235 crawley town 4 bristol city 2 2 3 779 3 181 598 brighton and hove albion 2 wrexham 5 3 18 573 18 595 22 chelsea 1 portsmouth 2 1 41 529 41 632 103 manchester city 1 manchester united 1 0 46 808 47 013 205 doncaster rovers 2 notts county 3 1 9 535 9 750 215 peterborough united 2 sunderland 1 1 8 954 9 233 279 liverpool 1 oldham 3 2 44 556 44 857 301 tottenham hotspur 1 cheltenham 4 3 35 672 36 071 399 sheffield wednesday 3 west ham 2 1 17 916 20 041 2 125 barnsley 2 swansea 1 1 7 380 10 719 3 339 norwich city 1 burnley 2 1 22 898 26 516 3 618 nottingham forest 2 leicester 2 0 18 477 22 224 3 747 watford 2 bradford 4 2 8 935 12 731 3 796 birmingham city 2 wolverhampton 1 1 14 594 18 682 4 088 fulham 1 charlton 3 2 20 317 25 315 4 998 middlesbrough 2 shrewsbury 4 2 12 631 18 164 5 533 coventry city 2 southampton 2 0 9 000 14 813 5 813 everton 1 tamworth 5 4 27 564 33 407 5 843 reading 2 stevenage 3 1 11 295 18 554 7 259 sheffield united 3 salisbury 6 3 10 488 18 559 8 071 hull city 2 ipswich 2 0 10 246 18 922 8 676 west bromwich albion 1 cardiff 2 1 12 454 24 794 12 340 derby county 2 crystal palace 2 0 10 113 26 133 16 020 newcastle united 1 blackburn 1 0 30 876 48 866 17 990 totals 2 29 2 32 1 522 334 602 644 80 310 i have added the away teams the tiers in which each team plays and the difference between the tiers at each game the list has been sorted into an order from the greatest increase to the greatest drop in the number attending the results are not entirely surprising where the home team is two or more divisions below the away team the fans have turned out in extra numbers at games like everton v tamworth and sheffield united v salisbury the home fans staying away outnumber any boost in the minnow s away following the two biggest differences are at matches between clubs in the same division overall there is a fairly clear picture of the fa cup lacking magic except when a home team might just cause a cupset below is a graphic representation with a rather unscientific trendline it s unscientific in that there are many variables at work here including for example the distance away fans have to travel and in any case we are dealing with fairly small numbers of games one difficulty is that a scientific look at this phenomenon would require details of ticket allocations for away fans and implicitly therefore home fans given that stadium capacity is known and the percentage of these which were sold does anyone know a single source on the internet which gives these this would be an interesting topic for research as the outcomes would provide a basis for a scientific allocation of tickets for away fans share this share on facebook opens in new window facebook share on x opens in new window x share on reddit opens in new window reddit like loading posted in community fans tagged community fans leave a comment banning orders posted by john beech on september 10 2011 the banning of a fan whether by a club or by a court is a contentious issue sjmaskell has an interesting and thought provoking posting up on just how easy it could be to find yourself banned under section 14 b of the football disorder act without ever being charged let alone convicted i wonder how often that is used in comparison to bannings under section 14 a those which follow from a conviction i wonder too how many fans realise they can be banned without ever having been convicted of an offence banning is not a topic that i have frequently blogged on in fact the only previous occasion was when i compared the crawley town lifetime ban imposed on an idiot who they claimed wasn t one of their fans in spite of the fact that he appeared as one of their own on their official website with the stevenage town fan who received a six year ban for assaulting one of his team s players on the pitch i thought at the time that notwithstanding the fact that nothing could be said in way of mitigation of the crawley town fan s inept behaviour a life time ban seemed inappropriately harsh for inept but offensive behaviour especially when compared to the act of punching a player on the pitch and i don t feel any differently now does anyone have any data sets on banning orders this topic seems worthy of further research and analysis in the meantime steady as you go when engaging in banter with fans you don t know you never whether they have history should you find yourself being unfairly treated the people to contact are the football supporters federation who can offer a range of advice and active support share this share on facebook opens in new window facebook share on x opens in new window x share on reddit opens in new window reddit like loading posted in fans tagged fans 2 comments a day of reckoning posted by john beech on may 23 2011 i managed to follow the great play off between afc wimbledon to whom many congratulations and luton town to whom commiserations at least live online football at its most exciting i wonder if andy burnham chose quite the right words though when he tweeted wimbledon back in football league brilliant a great victory for all football supporters over the money men well done to all at afc i m sure he wasn t referring to luton as the money men although his comment would have been entirely appropriate if wimbledon had beaten crawley town yesterday with the final day of premier league games unfortunately found me in the tirol in a hotel room arriving and logging on just after the games had started heady stuff and probably the most exciting afternoon in the pl all season as alan hansen was moved to write 1 the big winner has been the premier league itself because this season has shown it to be the most exciting of the lot i m not sure that i would enirely agree with his argument it struck me particularly as i was feeling somewhat removed from the action that it was distinctly odd that all the excitement was over who would or wouldn t be relegated aston villa v liverpool everton v chelsea and fulham v arsenal were attracting very little attention from the twitterati is this the grand scheme of things that the greedy breakaway chairman of the old first division envisioned some twenty years ago i came to the conclusion that in fact yes it was had they bothered to think their plans through to me it is yet another symptom of what is wrong with the governance of english football who is or isn t relegated is clearly an important part of the general excitment of football but it surely shoudn t be the major focus the sacking of ancelotti 2 because this season s performances have fallen short of expectations and the club feels the time is right to make this change ahead of next season s preparations to me provides yet more evidence of just how dysfunctional the premier league has become relegation from the premier league undoubtedly puts serious financial pressure on a club when the drop in broadcasting revenues is netted off against the parachute payment one is looking at a drop of 30m 25m in revenues to this must be added a drop in matchday revenues reduced attendance and lowered ticket prices and a drop in merchandising sales although these will vary from club to club depending on the loyalty of their fans in particular how large the core of till i die fans is clubs may face a contractual drop in sponsorship fees and may or may not have had the wisdom to include relegation clauses in their players contracts in other words any club relegated faces a financial problem but some may face significantly harder problems than those who had planned for the eventuality clubs will also be in different states of financial health to start with last week i was asked by bbc west midlands to review the prospects for wolves and birmingham city should they be relegated on virtually every financial measure wolves looked far more resilient to facing the drop than birmingham city west ham will undoubtedly face serious difficulties too and only blackppol look reasonably equipped to face the drop the football league season is not quite finished but further down the pyramid things are clearer with respect to next season afc wimbledon and crawley town are joining the football league the epitome of fan ownership and benefactor induced financial doping respectively at the other end of the conference national it s goodbye to southport altincham whose luck in benefitting from other clubs financial problems finally ran out eastbourne borough and histon i m sorry to see eastbourne borough go down as they were the most senior english club which is a community interest company cic as an interesting aside the scottish premier league may well have a cic as a menber in the coming season st mirren 3 this is a case that is well worth following as the current owners are seeking to sell the club in a way that was making sure it remained sustainable and debt free 4 lower down the pyramid the upcoming movements are plotted here good to see resurrection clubs afc telford and farsely on the way up it s interesting to note that ilkeston are listed as reinstated good news for their fans following their resurrection 5 but i wonder what for example king s lynn fans or grays athletic fans will make of the reinstatement decision finally i turn to a football story that is relevant to me in my immediate circumstances but which does not seem to have well covered by the english speaking media although due credit to yahoo sport 6 for being an exception the story quite simply is that a major derby match between rapid vienna and austria vienna was abandoned after 26 minutes following a major pitch invasion see here and here disturbing images that we hope we will not see moving further northwards and westwards after thirty minutes of disruption the police felt unable to guarantee the safety of the players in a resumed match we seem to have moved onward from such dark days in england and it was good to note the birmingham city fans staying on at white hart lane to show what they had in common with spurs fans 7 mind you i suspect that thursday night channel five is not really going to catch on on the terraces share this share on facebook opens in new window facebook share on x opens in new window x share on reddit opens in new window reddit like loading posted in broadcasting rights costs economic impact fans football conference governance merchandising premier league promotion pyramid movement relegation revenues sponsorship tagged broadcasting rights costs economic impact fans football conference governance merchandising premier league promotion pyramid movement relegation revenues sponsorship 2 comments how utterly utterly absurd posted by john beech on april 20 2011 there are reports that a dubai sheikh is set to buy a la liga team possibly getafe and add the words team dubai to the club s name 1 this is as absurd as manchester city becoming manchester city team abu dhabi for example or chelsea becoming chelsea team chukotka only to be renamed chelsea team moscow if another report is to be given any credence 2 it betrays both a crass view of a club as the owner s plaything you can add your own bit here about fayed fulham and michael jackson here and a stunning inability to understand that a football club is essentially about local identity and local fans insert your own more positive bit about arsenal and custodians here of course it could never happen in england oh hang on though perhaps it s a bit like having the word dons in your club s name when you are not in wimbl...
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