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hing i ve wanted to do anyways pipewire s design seems much better than pulseaudio as it folds in jack features which allows for pretty neat tricks which i should probably show in a separate post because this one is getting rather long i first tried this migration in debian bullseye and it didn t work very well ardour would fail to export tracks and i would get into weird situations where streams would just drop mid way a particularly funny incident is when i was in a meeting and i couldn t hear my colleagues speak anymore but they could and i went on blabbering on my own for a solid 5 minutes until i realized what was going on by then people had tried numerous ways of letting me know that something was off including apparently coughing saying hello chat messages irc and so on until they just gave up and left i suspect that was also a pipewire bug but it could also have been that i muted the tab by error as i recently learned that clicking on the little tiny speaker icon on a tab mutes that tab since the tab itself can get pretty small when you have lots of them it s actually quite frequently that i mistakenly mute tabs anyways point is i already knew how to make the migration and i had already documented how to make the change in puppet it s basically apt install pipewire pipewire audio client libraries pipewire pulse wireplumber then as a regular user systemctl user daemon reload systemctl user now disable pulseaudio service pulseaudio socket systemctl user now enable pipewire pipewire pulse systemctl user mask pulseaudio an optional but key imho configuration you should also make is to switch on connect which will make your bluetooth or usb headset automatically be the default route for audio when connected in config pipewire pipewire pulse conf d autoconnect conf context exec path pactl args load module module always sink path pactl args load module module switch on connect path usr bin sh args config pipewire default pw see the excellent as usual arch wiki page about pipewire for that trick and more information about pipewire note that you must not put the file in config pipewire pipewire conf or pipewire pulse conf maybe directly as that will break your setup if you want to add to that file first copy the template from usr share pipewire pipewire pulse conf first so far i m happy with pipewire in bookworm but i ve heard mixed reports from it i have high hopes it will become the standard media server for linux in the coming months or years which is great because i ve been rather boldly i admit on the record saying i don t like pulseaudio rereading this now i feel it might have been a little unfair as over engineered and tries to do too many things at once applies probably even more to pipewire than pulseaudio since it also handles video dispatching that said i think pipewire took the right approach by implementing existing interfaces like pulseaudio and jack that way we re not adding a third or fourth way of doing audio in linux we re just making the server better improvements over i3 tiling improvements there s a lot of improvements sway could bring over using plain i3 there are pretty neat auto tilers that could replicate the configurations i used to have in xmonad or awesome see autotiling swaymonad display latency tweaks todo you can tweak the display latency in wlroots compositors with the max_render_time parameter possibly getting lower latency than x11 in the end sound brightness changes notifications todo avizo can display a pop up to give feedback on volume and brightness changes not in debian other alternatives include swayosd and sway nc also not in debian debugging tricks the xeyes in the x11 apps package will run in wayland and can actually be used to easily see if a given window is also in wayland if the eyes follow the cursor the app is actually running in xwayland so not natively in wayland another way to see what is using wayland in sway is with the command swaymsg t get_tree other documentation awesome wayland arewewaylandyet com hacktivist me notes arch linux wiki gentoo apps list sway useful addons i3 migration guide conclusion in general this took me a long time but it mostly works the tray icon situation is pretty frustrating but there s a workaround and i have high hopes it will eventually fix itself i m also actually worried about the displaylink support because i eventually want to be using this but hopefully that s another thing that will hopefully fix itself before i need it a word on the security model i m kind of worried about all the hacks that have been added to wayland just to make things work pretty much everywhere we need to we punched a hole in the security model windows can spy on each other although xdg desktop portal wlr does confirm if you have some chooser installed see xdg desktop portal wrl 5 windows can type over each other through e g wtype through the virtual keyboard protocol windows can overlay on top of each other so one app could for example spoof a password dialog through the layer shell protocol wikipedia describes the security properties of wayland as it isolates the input and output of every window achieving confidentiality integrity and availability for both i m not sure those are actually realized in the actual implementation because of all those holes punched in the design at least in sway for example apparently the gnome compositor doesn t have the virtual keyboard protocol but they do have another text input protocol wayland does offer a better basis to implement such a system however it feels like the linux applications security model lacks critical decision points in the ui like the user approving yes this application can share my screen now applications themselves might have some of those prompts but it s not mandatory and that is worrisome 16 november 2022 10 04pm scarlett gately moore representing kde ubuntu summit in prague first i would like to send a big thank you to canonical for sponsoring my trip to prague for the ubuntu summit it was a great success i saw some great talks and valuable workshops i now know how to snap our applications the have daemons and services thanks to the snapping daemons and services workshop prague itself is an amazing city wow just wow i got to see old friends and meet many new ones i will take away some wonderful memories did i mention a river cruise yes it was great fun i did a lightning talk with jonathon and a snapping desktop applications workshop with olivier the talk was lightning fast but good practice for my speech giving skills a challenge for a shy person such as myself the workshop was great presentations of different ways snaps are done for different projects the audience was smaller than i had hoped it was the end of the summit and many folks were wrapping up to leave i still left with a feeling of accomplishment snapping desktop applications workshop ubuntu summit this week i will apply my new found knowledge and push out some more snaps 16 november 2022 07 09pm by sgmoore antoine beaupré a zfs migration in my tubman setup i started using zfs on an old server i had lying around the machine is really old though 2011 and it feels pretty slow i want to see how much of that is zfs and how much is the machine synthetic benchmarks show that zfs may be slower than mdadm in raid 10 or raid 6 configuration so i want to confirm that on a live workload my workstation plus i want easy regular high performance backups with send receive snapshots and there s no way i m going to use btrfs because i find it too confusing and unreliable so off we go installation since this is a conversion and not a new install our procedure is slightly different than the official documentation but otherwise it s pretty much in the same spirit we re going to use zfs for everything including the root filesystem so install the required packages on the current system apt install yes gdisk zfs dkms zfs zfs initramfs zfsutils linux we also tell dkms that we need to rebuild the initrd when upgrading echo remake_initrd yes etc dkms zfs conf partitioning this is going to partition dev sdc with 1mb mbr bios legacy boot 512mb efi boot 1gb bpool unencrypted pool for boot rest of the disk for zpool the rest of the data sgdisk zap all dev sdc sgdisk a1 n1 24k 1000k t1 ef02 dev sdc sgdisk n2 1m 512m t2 ef00 dev sdc sgdisk n3 0 1g t3 bf01 dev sdc sgdisk n4 0 0 t4 bf00 dev sdc that will look something like this root curie home anarcat sgdisk p dev sdc disk dev sdc 1953525168 sectors 931 5 gib model esd s1c sector size logical physical 512 512 bytes disk identifier guid redacted partition table holds up to 128 entries main partition table begins at sector 2 and ends at sector 33 first usable sector is 34 last usable sector is 1953525134 partitions will be aligned on 16 sector boundaries total free space is 14 sectors 7 0 kib number start sector end sector size code name 1 48 2047 1000 0 kib ef02 2 2048 1050623 512 0 mib ef00 3 1050624 3147775 1024 0 mib bf01 4 3147776 1953525134 930 0 gib bf00 unfortunately we can t be sure of the sector size here because the usb controller is probably lying to us about it normally this smartctl command should tell us the sector size as well root curie smartctl i dev sdb qnoserial smartctl 7 2 2020 12 30 r5155 x86_64 linux 5 10 0 14 amd64 local build copyright c 2002 20 bruce allen christian franke www smartmontools org start of information section model family western digital black mobile device model wdc wd10jplx 00mbpt0 firmware version 01 01h01 user capacity 1 000 204 886 016 bytes 1 00 tb sector sizes 512 bytes logical 4096 bytes physical rotation rate 7200 rpm form factor 2 5 inches device is in smartctl database for details use p show ata version is ata8 acs t13 1699 d revision 6 sata version is sata 3 0 6 0 gb s current 6 0 gb s local time is tue may 17 13 33 04 2022 edt smart support is available device has smart capability smart support is enabled above is the example of the builtin hdd drive but the ssd device enclosed in that usb controller doesn t support smart commands so we can t trust that it really has 512 bytes sectors this matters because we need to tweak the ashift value correctly we re going to go ahead the ssd drive has the common 4kb settings which means ashift 12 note here that we are not creating a separate partition for swap swap on zfs volumes aka swap on zvol can trigger lockups and that issue is still not fixed upstream ubuntu recommends using a separate partition for swap instead but since this is just a workstation we re betting that we will not suffer from this problem after hearing a report from another debian developer running this setup on their workstation successfully we do not recommend this setup though in fact if i were to redo this partition scheme i would probably use luks encryption and setup a dedicated swap partition as i had problems with zfs encryption as well creating pools zfs pools are somewhat like volume groups if you are familiar with lvm except they obviously also do things like raid 10 even though lvm can technically also do raid people typically use mdadm instead in any case the guide suggests creating two different pools here one in cleartext for boot and a separate encrypted one for the rest technically the boot partition is required because the grub bootloader only supports readonly zfs pools from what i understand but i m a little out of my depth here and just following the guide boot pool creation this creates the boot pool in readonly mode with features that grub supports zpool create o cachefile etc zfs zpool cache o ashift 12 d o feature async_destroy enabled o feature bookmarks enabled o feature embedded_data enabled o feature empty_bpobj enabled o feature enabled_txg enabled o feature extensible_dataset enabled o feature filesystem_limits enabled o feature hole_birth enabled o feature large_blocks enabled o feature lz4_compress enabled o feature spacemap_histogram enabled o feature zpool_checkpoint enabled o acltype posixacl o canmount off o compression lz4 o devices off o normalization formd o relatime on o xattr sa o mountpoint boot r mnt bpool dev sdc3 i haven t investigated all those settings and just trust the upstream guide on the above main pool creation this is a more typical pool creation zpool create o ashift 12 o encryption on o keylocation prompt o keyformat passphrase o acltype posixacl o xattr sa o dnodesize auto o compression zstd o relatime on o canmount off o mountpoint r mnt rpool dev sdc4 breaking this down o ashift 12 mentioned above 4k sector size o encryption on o keylocation prompt o keyformat passphrase encryption prompt for a password default algorithm is aes 256 gcm explicit in the guide made implicit here o acltype posixacl o xattr sa enable acls with better performance not enabled by default o dnodesize auto related to extended attributes less compatibility with other implementations o compression zstd enable zstd compression can be disabled enabled by dataset to with zfs set compression off rpool example o relatime on classic atime optimisation another that could be used on a busy server is atime off o canmount off do not make the pool mount automatically with mount a o mountpoint r mnt mount pool on in the future but mnt for now those settings are all available in zfsprops 8 other flags are defined in zpool create 8 the reasoning behind them is also explained in the upstream guide and some also in the debian wiki those flags were actually not used o normalization formd normalize file names on comparisons not storage implies utf8only on which is a bad idea and effectively meant my first sync failed to copy some files including this folder from a supysonic checkout and this cannot be changed after the filesystem is created bad bad bad the debian wiki https wiki debian org zfs advanced_topics side note about single disk pools also note that we re living dangerously here single disk zfs pools are rumoured to be more dangerous than not running zfs at all the choice quote from this article is any error can be detected but cannot be corrected this sounds like an acceptable compromise but its actually not the reason its not is that zfs metadata cannot be allowed to be corrupted if it is it is likely the zpool will be impossible to mount and will probably crash the system once the corruption is found so a couple of bad sectors in the right place will mean that all data on the zpool will be lost not some all also there s no zfs recovery tools so you cannot recover any data on the drives compared with say ext4 where a single disk error can recovered this is pretty bad but we are ready to live with this with the idea that we ll have hourly offline snapshots that we can easily recover from it s trade off also we re running this on a nvme m 2 drive which typically just blinks out of existence completely and doesn t bit rot the way a hdd would also the freebsd handbook quick start doesn t have any warnings about their first 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