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y s girl also stop worshiping male women stop worshiping men who worship the throne of men capitalism academia etc what is her position on gay men cross dressers we can all relate to the experience of seeing these qualities in men and trying to ignore them especially radical males pg24 sepratism means you are complicit in the system because you are dropping out instead of fucking it up scum is not a mob because mobs are contained scum are diffused into society their actions are discriminate not careless but they spread chaos throughout society solanas individual is not the selfish capitalist male individual we know it is empathetic present instead of being self absorbed she is self forgetting being self absorbed means being part of the mob it means you are not enacting empathy and really being an individual higher education does not educate it excludes this is a white middle class account of culture and oppression does she have the responsibility to acknowledge this and situate her argument does she have the responsibility and or the right to talk about race in this manifesto it s cool how she oscillates between or maybe connects nihilism and utopianism the male rebel a farse p55 revolutions have never been male lead men just write history as and after it happens so they have written history as if revolutions were male lead a text to reference italian feminist thought pushed by the violence of desires men don t have true investment in revolution the section on hippies and commune technology and science will save us no evaluation of how scientific and technological discourses are male patriarchal etc they will be taken over by women and they will liberate us we can live eternally and will never have to reproduce living forever will help the utopian women s world because so many male power schemes are based accumulation achievement expansion are based on fear of death and mortality fuck the male females the daddy s girls leave a comment nina power january 25 2010 4 41 am filed under uncategorized in this post is the attachment ona got for nina powers paper on shulamith firestone powers presented her paper at the critical feminisms panel at last weekends historical materialism conference towards a cybernetic communism the technology of the anti family by dr nina power senior lecturer in philosophy roehampton university i couldn t successfully upload the second file which was a pdf of her book one dimensional woman plz take a crack at it maybe we should have a blog skillshare xoxo basha leave a comment caliban the witch notes january 18 2010 8 54 pm filed under uncategorized some notes from the meeting primitive accumulation is the material and social conditions necessary for capitalism to occur p 63 marx forgot the role of women in primitive accumulation a it s useful to investigate the difference between the use of women s bodies in primitive accumulation vs the ongoing violence and accumulation and of women s bodies under capitalism p14 women is a necessary label and category because of the structural violence against and oppression of women throughout history capitalism and history have used women as a class and we have to acknowledge that subjectivity to understand how female subjectivities are produced under different historical conditions and in different historical times we need the understand women as a category and as a class p15 sylvia federici criticizes foucault s analysis of the body as a product of discourse she maintains that it is the product of class relations and material realities p16 bio power self policing internalizing power oppression panopticon p16 the problem with foucault s theory that power is dynamic and transcending a source or object is that there is vast historical president for the oppression of women as a class p17 primitive accumulation did not cease as marx imagined it would as capitalism developed instead groups like the imf world bank etc help to act out primitive accumulation on a global scale how does starting with primitive accumulation with the oppression of the proletariat with women under capitalism ignore the larger history of women under patriarchy is lerner s thesis commensurate with federicis lerner locates subordination of women in how men control women s sexuality federici takes this same premise to talk about women s oppression under capitalism women s oppression laying the ground for capitalism in primitive accumulation women were oppressed under the feudal system but they were not also oppressed as members of the proletariat aka they were suffering under patriarchy but were not further alienated from their labor and means production through a wage labor system or through a staunch sexual division of labor to whom do we refer when we say the state state capitalist oppression was mimicked by family units the men controlled the women and the children this taught them privatization possession of people and patriarchy it reproduces the structure of the state power like this is not post structuralist in nature it is not an abstract mystical power it is a power with a violent and deliberate source p25 when women have to go through men for capital they are further oppressed p74 from a subsistence to a money economy women were conscripted to reproductive work which had no money value and was not allowed to compete on the market p47 in the gang rapes against women was the anger of men actually directed toward the state and being redirected toward the proletariat women or was there already outstanding anger toward women which was alone enough to instigate gang rapes in this violent historical moment what are the different forms that womens oppression and violence take before and outside of capitalism how do we keep these in mind while reading these works on oppression in capitalist systems leave a comment notes and reflections creation of patriarchy pt2 january 3 2010 2 25 am filed under reading response notes from today s meetings thoughts we had please post freely these are the notes i took during today s meeting of central ideas and questions we had sorry if i missrepresented anything feel free to add edit initially gerda lerner s analysis is a materialist and functionalist one that is to say lerner believes that the material conditions of early human existence like geography childbirth etcetera determined the social patriarchal conditions of life but as she moves on to analyze more developed communities she includes the influence of culture and symbols inform her analysis of the conditions that create and perpetuate patriarchy myths and symbols both create and perpetuate the social conditions of patriarchy culture begets culture through symbols and institutionalization culture reproduces itself is gender oppression a functional device originating from material conditions that is to say does gender oppression originate from material necessity like securing land and children but continue in order to serve the social institution of patriarchy and the power of the state is gender oppression created to forward the state nation or to serve men as a class group aka patriarchy for the state or patriarchy for the man could it be both p213 women as a class or women and men as history s class distinction women as the first oppressed and enslaved group from which men society learned to enslave other men a marxist analysis class distinction is made between who own the means of production and who do not women have the original means to reproduce aka wombs childbirth so men dominating them is the first time men take control of the means of production when women become child bearers under a patriarchy it is the original experience of becoming divorced and alienated from their meas of biological production a marxist analysis childbirth is also the original division of labor it created the male female nature science cultural dichotomy more on p224 genesis when men control the creation of symbols and begin to name and rename it is as if they are taking on the power of creation and life giving genesis male gods are put in the place of the female goddesses and this removes reproduction from the story of the creation of the world genesis p181 man is viewed as a mother through an inversion of the creation myth he becomes an agent of total creation and non biological reproduction under capitalism in the modern western world men are no longer conscripted to their biological roles but women are p215 man functions as a gate keeper or mediator between woman and god if you supplement knowledge class power for the word god the sentence holds true p215 women in contemporary western society have gained access to knowledge class power and god without needing a man to access it for them however they are still merely gaining access to patriarchal systems instead of liberating themselves from patriarchy all together p215 in modern capitalism has race surpassed gender as the foremost globally and nationally oppressed class how do we feel about biological arguments is it too mailable convenient to say that women are oppressed because of childbirth breastfeeding menstruation the list goes on lerner seems to say that in the earliest nomadic human communities biology was one of the most basic and important material conditions so a biological argument in this case is also a material marxist one but once culture religion economics state power class race and other modern conditions come into play do we feel comfortable assuming the biological factor is nullified or is it still relevant p224 women are culturally conscripted to a biological sphere and kept out of male scientific intellectual sphere women and oppressed classes around the world are afforded an intimate knowledge that visceral emotional experiential ambiguous unlike the culturally valued type of knowledge of rational abstract thought which is controlled by and only afforded to men it is not that one type of knowledge is inherently male and the other female but that patriarchal social roles regulate who has access to each of these knowledge type while simultaneously valuing one of the other people who have been handed power and privilege cannot understand experiential knowledge and people who are denied power and privilege are denied access to rational abstract an socially valued knowledge systems the types of thought that only the oppressed have are equally valuable and should be considered culturally legitimate xoxxo basha leave a comment next meeting and our thoughts from last time december 24 2009 6 30 am filed under reading response next meeting sunday jan 3 2pm finish the book creation of patriarchy ideas we had to keep in mind question of women relating to question of what is human symbols and the domination of symbols semiotics can symbols control us where is the material base money as the template for the domination of symbol symbols are powerful when social power is controlled by people who wield symbols how the domination exploitation of women comes before slavery before exploitation in capitalism patriarchy as process tracing the evolution of it tracing evolution of gender symbols of gender division of labor evolution of the feminist subject complicity of women in their exploitation complicity of men in debasing their own lives how to be unbiased agency and question of feminism to what degree do we can we accept gender not accept gender act on these things we are reading this because we re angry to see there s a break to see there s a social construct allows to grasp it and change it l needs plumbing fm leave a comment notes from dec 20 the creation of patriarchy pt i december 23 2009 5 14 pm filed under reading response it would be real cool if we could all post any notes and or questions we have from last meeting on this entry log in with the information nicole sent out and start adding anonymously or otherwise adam s rib musta been hella magical lerner s project posits patriarchy as creation as a system that has been brought into existence she discloses male domination as a historic phenomenon that arose out of a biologically determined given situation and became a culturally created and enforced structure over time 42 and elsewhere although questions of origin initially interested me i soon realized that they were far less significant than questions about the historical process by which patriarchy becomes established and institutionalized 7 to view patriarchy as process and not product of biological determinants or a magical rib cage we are presented with the potential to radically intervene in the cycle that reaffirms patriarchy as an establishment and the subjugated roles of women within it on symbols what i am attempting to do in my book is to trace by means of historical evidence the development of the leading ideas symbols and metaphors by which patriarchal gender relations were incorporated into western civilization each chapter is built around one of these metaphors for gender in this book i have endeavored to isolate and identify the forms in which western civilization constructed gender and to study them at moments or in periods of change these forms consist of social norms embodied in social roles in laws and in metaphors in a way these forms represent historical artifacts from which it is possible to deduce the social reality which gave rise to the idea or to the metaphor by tracing the changes in metaphor or image it should be possible to trace the underlying historical developments in society even in the absence of other historical evidence in the case of mesopotamian society the abundance of historical evidence makes it possible in most case to confirm one s analysis of symbols by comparison with such hard evidence i thought this quote would be good to share in reference to our discussion concerning the relationship between symbols and material conditions or to help us understand how lerner utilizes symbols as means of interpreting or re interpreting history history see lerner s distinction on p4 lerner argues for symbols as representations of metaphors of gender they are for lerner just as revelatory as social norms written text or social law it helps to use the example of how women slaves or women prostitutes were marked visibly to distinguish specific women with a specific inferior status but the relationship as we discussed on sunday is not so simple here we need to stress only the difficulty of reasoning from such evidence here she is referring to mother goddess figures toward the construction of social organizations in which women were dominant in view of the historical evidence for the coexistence of symbolic idolatry of women and the actual low status of women such as the cult of the virgin mary in the middle ages the cult of the lady of the plantation in antebellum america or that of the hollywood star in contemporary society one hesitates to elevate such evidence to historical proof 29 here symbols can exist as f...
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