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s journal june 28 2011 jesus wants me to hate you filed under bigotry equal marriage jesurgislac 7 30 am tags christianity civil rights david r carlin equal marriage gay marriage meaning of christianity teachings of christ this is jeffrey first we were created in godd image second god gave you free will to make your own choices and act on your own feelings third it is a feeling that you get that makes you like the same sex therefore it is not any different than a rapest who feels he has to rape women to be sexually fulfilled also the molester who gets off on touching little kids it s all acted out on feelings that you have i have feelings that i feel strongly about but it doesn t make them right or ok also with the bible it talks about traditions and ideas that are created by man and laws set by man you cannot take what man created and use it to conflict what god has said we are all created for a purpose in life unfortunately being gay isn t one of those purposes i see a lot of desperation to twist and contort the bible you cannot compare specific law of man in the bible with specific law of god in the bible it specifically says in the bible that god looks down on homosexuality not eating shrimp this is david when law and public opinion give their endorsement to homosexual behavior they implicitly condemn those who disapprove of such behavior namely traditional catholics protestants and jews the push for ssm is at least de facto if not deliberately an attempt to destroy traditional christianity the drive for ssm is but the latest stage of the sexual revolution and at every one of that revolution s earlier stages casual fornication unmarried cohabitation out of wedlock childbirth abortion it has served to undermine marriage why would any reasonable person imagine that this latest stage will be any different ssm is the reductio ad absurdum of marriage if persons of the same sex can get married doesn t marriage then mean anything and nothing marriage was instituted for the begetting of children something that two persons of the same sex cannot do a growing child has a profound psychological need for a mother and father two mothers won t do and neither will two fathers the undermining of marriage has had disastrous consequences for millions of children who have grown up fatherless and usually in poverty these consequences while bad among all racial groups have been worst among african americans in some cases frustrating the movement toward socioeconomic parity between black and white david says rather pathetically that he thinks these arguments are good arguments but in practice i find that the arguments don t persuade anyone who is not already convinced he asks with extraordinary blindness why have many of us in the anti ssm camp been unwilling to deploy the argument that homosexual behavior is immoral unnatural i have no idea why he thinks this hasn t been happening but it s possible that people who are opposed to equal civil rights for lgbt people haven t been attacking in quite that way in david s hearing as much as he s used to in the last few years just because coming out as openly homophobic and bigoted is found to be counterproductive more comments 1 may 29 2011 pastor chuck phelps is passionate and practical filed under bad stuff happens feminism jesurgislac 1 58 pm tags colonial hills baptist church concord new hampshire doctor charles phelps ernest willis felony rape pastor chuck phelps rape rapists trinity baptist church colonial hills baptist church has a biography of their senior pastor that is significant for what it omits dr charles phelps is our senior pastor prior to coming to colonial dr phelps served as a youth pastor in minnesota and colorado as a senior pastor in new hampshire and as a college president in wisconsin he has traveled to numerous mission fields colleges seminaries and churches to teach and preach the bible pastor phelps is a passionate practical bible teacher and preacher he ministers faithfully to our church family along with his wife linda they have five children and one grandson in 1997 pastor phelps was the senior pastor at the trinity baptist church in concord new hampshire when he discovered that a church member ernest willis had raped on at least two occasions a 15 year old girl the daughter of a church member and the girl was pregnant under new hampshire law willis had committed a felony a class b felonious sexual assault a crime for which he has since been found guilty verdict friday he hasn t yet been sentenced but it could be up to 54 years this was the case even if as willis persistently claimed the girl had consented to sex she was under 16 exceptions can be made for two kids more or less the same age fooling around with each other but willis was then in his late thirties and married the girl was his kids babysitter there were multiple people affected by willis s rape of the girl there was willis s wife they are now divorced their children the girl herself the girl s mother i don t know if the girl s father was a church member supposing that 14 years ago willis had been arrested for rape and phelps had stood by the girl and given his testimony in support of her one can assume that even an anti rape pastor phelps would have been against abortion so i m not going to fantasise that the girl would have been able to make her own decision about that but suppose she had a supportive mother who hadn t made her give the baby up for adoption or if the adoption had been with local parents and as open as possible so that the girl was not as actually happened permanently separated from the baby she d been forced to have i can t say what decision the girl might have made about abortion if she d been genuinely free to choose with a supportive mother to back whatever decision she made but i can be pretty sure that pastor phelps would never have supported abortion nor envisaged a solution that included abortion so let s assume not phelps would have been faced with a congregation aware that one of their number was being charged with rape of a babysitter the man s wife would have had to deal there and then with knowing that her husband was a rapist who molested teenage girls and the girl herself pregnant with the rapist s child the situation would necessarily have continued for months maybe for years really for as long as any of the people involved remained members adoptive parents might have been members of the same congregation or known to members of the congregation too whereas i can see the temptation to phelps if he got the pregnant girl out of the way got the girl and willis to apologise to the congregation thus making it partly the girl s fault and therefore allowing mrs willis to tell herself it wasn t altogether her husband s fault and got the baby adopted out of state and to parents not known to anyone in the congregation then he could tell himself everything would be over and done with in weeks the girl would be out of the way in colorado having her baby when she came back she wouldn t talk about it and there wouldn t be any messy lingering upset perfect solution so long as the girl kept her mouth shut and phelps wasn t concerned about justice or kindness to a raped girl or protecting other vulnerable teenagers from ernest willis or even with being honest with mrs willis that her husband was a rapist of teenage girls and there could be no excuse for him pastor phelps s defense in court was that he did report this to the police though he also says he told the police that the girl didn t want to come forward the two phone calls he claims were made on oct 8 1997 when he found out that the girl was raped and pregnant and on oct 9 the following day when he told the police the girl didn t want to come forward pastor phelps says he told the girl i read to tina from deuteronomy 22 the passage is about a maiden in a field and she is accosted by a man the maiden screamed and no one was there to help her then the passage refers to a maiden in a city who is accosted by a man she didn t scream there is the appearance of complicity chuck phelps his new colonial hills church says he especially enjoys teaching pastoral ethics church management church growth and discipleship got the girl to read an apology for her misbehaviour to the congregation then he had her sent away to another state to have the baby have the baby adopted and then return to the new hampshire church where she d continue to worship alongside the man who d raped her ernest willis this kind of abuse revealed by one brave woman who opted to come forward doesn t seem to concern phelps new church a lot of people responded to my previous post on this subject i thank you all now for commenting i m sorry i didn t reply to your comments several spoke of how this matched their own experience of christian charity caring for rapists more than for their victims chuck phelps set up his own website to excuse his behaviour www drchuckphelps com he claims that neither he nor the girl s mother told her not to press charges but clearly even according to his own testimony he made no effort whatsoever to support the girl against the rapist ernest willis was also a member of phelps congregation phelps had a responsibility to him a responsibility which phelps seems to have thought he fulfilled by protecting the rapist from the legal consequences of committing a felony it does not seem to have occurred to phelps ever that he had a moral responsibility towards willis or towards his other victims to ensure that willis was arrested by the police and charged with the crime phelps knew he had committed the burden of his defense is that the 15 year old girl whom he admits he d told was complicit in her own rape was solely responsible for ensuring that charges were brought against ernest willis and it s entirely her fault not his that the rapist was left to go free for 14 years what s missing from the website now i first looked at it a few months ago soon after the 20 20 broadcast is a defense by chuck phelps that the whole horrible situation was worthwhile because the girl had a baby and the baby was adopted she didn t have an abortion and the couple who got a baby were made happy by this i don t know why phelps took this down perhaps because someone with more self awareness realized that it made doctor phelps look very very complicit in the sexual abuse of an underage girl perhaps phelps was still hoping at the time he first set up the site that willis would be found not guilty and he could dismiss the girl whose rape he d condoned all those years ago as just another silly slut his website still cites a letter from the girl s mother which claims her daughter is only doing this for the money i don t think he quite sees that abuse from an abusive parent is not exactly helping his case but it did strike me as a classic pro life justification for rape and sexual abuse colonial hills baptist church says it is a family of caring christians a place where people feel like they are coming home through fervent prayer the passionate and practical declaration of god s word carefully presented and god focused music and a sincere love for the individual colonial hills baptist church desires to help you and your family grow in christ they even have a facebook page but their senior pastor condoned the rape of a fifteen year old girl and continues to excuse his behaviour then his church appears to think the problem can be resolved by giving him a separate website hoping perhaps that people won t keep associating their pastor with the rapist in new hampshire apparently their sermon for today may 29 is designed to strengthen saints and convict sinners this morning s message is entitled god is able to keep you eternally secure phelps doesn t seem to have regarded justice or kindness or protecting the vulnerable or honesty as anything a pastor ought to be concerned with but security yes he does seem to have cared about that comments 1 january 13 2011 how prolifers actually live out their beliefs filed under evil acts by those in power pro life jesurgislac 8 15 pm tags abortion catholicism pro life pro life movement sanctity of human life to understand how seamlessly and humbly we actually live out our belief in the sanctity of human life pterodactyl on familylifenz on nov 6 2010 a walgreens pharmacist in boise idaho apparently one of those prolifers living out his belief seamlessly and humbly in the sanctity of human life received an order for a prescription for methergine a medicine used to prevent or control bleeding of the uterus following childbirth or an abortion she asked the planned parenthood nurse practitioner whether this was for a patient who had had an abortion and in accordance with the hipaa privacy act the nurse refused to tell her and asked for a referral to a pharmacist who would fill the prescription the prolifer hung up to pterodactyl and to other followers on that blog who approve of pharmacists being legally entitled to deny women contraception or medical aftercare in order to seamlessly and humbly show how much they support the sanctity of human life the patient s privacy was not deserving of respect to prolifers women who might have had abortions aren t entitled to medical privacy women aren t entitled to freedom of conscience women aren t entitled to respect or dignity the pharmacist might seem arrogant and brutally uncaring as he put the phone down on a patient who was bleeding and might die but really to if you re pterodactyl that s just seamlessly humble behavior because letting a woman bleed to death is the way to live out your belief in the sanctity of human life this is part of the issue that the catholic church objected to when amnesty international decided to support the right of women who had been raped to abortions and to medical aftercare to ai a human rights organisation a girl or a woman who has been forced to have sex has the right to decide to have an abortion and whether or not the abortion is legal to have aftercare post abortion to the catholic church it is only right for women to risk death in illegal abortions and to be denied healthcare for complications afterwards and this is what pterodactyl calls respecting the sanctity of human life following on to the conclusion prolifers are llying hypocrites or prolifers believe women aren t human and so aren t included in the sanctity clause comments 48 january 2 2011 invitation to a prolife pterodactyl to debate basic human rights filed under pro life jesurgislac 10 41 am tags abortion gay marriage pro life movement as mtv s recent documentary on abortion demonstrated abortion is common despite the silence around it it s not an easy decision it s extremely safe and most women who do it really think long and hard about their decisions in a recent debate on a prolife site a prolifer who had previously made clear they support human rights regardless of sexual orientation came out solidly...
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