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rsync error some files attrs were not transferred see previous errors code 23 at main c 1333 sender 3 2 3 note the failure to transfer that supysonic file it turns out they had a weird filename in their source tree since then removed but still it showed how the utf8only feature might not be such a bad idea at this point the procedure was restarted all the way back to creating pools after unmounting all zfs filesystems umount mnt run mnt boot efi umount t zfs a and destroying the pool which surprisingly doesn t require any confirmation zpool destroy rpool the second run was cleaner root curie for fs in boot boot efi home do echo syncing fs to mnt fs rsync ashaxx info progress2 delete fs mnt fs done syncing boot to mnt boot 0 0 0 00kb s 0 00 00 xfr 0 to chk 0 299 syncing boot efi to mnt boot efi 0 0 0 00kb s 0 00 00 xfr 0 to chk 0 110 syncing to mnt 28 019 033 070 97 42 03mb s 0 10 35 xfr 703671 ir chk 1093 833515 rsync generator delete_file rmdir var lib docker failed device or resource busy 16 could not make way for new symlink var lib docker 34 081 807 102 98 44 84mb s 0 12 04 xfr 736580 to chk 0 867723 rsync error some files attrs were not transferred see previous errors code 23 at main c 1333 sender 3 2 3 syncing home to mnt home rsync sender readlink_stat home anarcat fuse failed permission denied 13 io error encountered skipping file deletion 24 043 086 450 96 62 03mb s 0 06 09 xfr 151819 ir chk 15117 172571 file has vanished home anarcat cache mozilla firefox s2hwvqbu quantum cache2 entries 4c1fdbfea976ff924d062fb990b24b897a77b84b 315 423 626 507 96 67 09mb s 1 14 43 xfr 2256845 to chk 0 2994364 rsync error some files attrs were not transferred see previous errors code 23 at main c 1333 sender 3 2 3 also note the transfer speed we seem capped at 76mb s or 608mbit s this is not as fast as i was expecting the usb connection seems to be at around 5gbps anarcat curie lsusb tv head 4 bus 02 port 1 dev 1 class root_hub driver xhci_hcd 6p 5000m id 1d6b 0003 linux foundation 3 0 root hub __ port 1 dev 4 if 0 class mass storage driver uas 5000m id 0b05 1932 asustek computer inc so it shouldn t cap at that speed it s possible the usb adapter is failing to give me the full speed though it s not the m 2 ssd drive either as that has a 500mb s bandwidth acccording to its spec at this point we re about ready to do the final configuration we drop to single user mode and do the rest of the procedure that used to be shutdown now but it seems like the systemd switch broke that so now you can reboot into grub and pick the recovery option alternatively you might try systemctl rescue as i found out i also wanted to copy the drive over to another new nvme drive but that failed it looks like the usb controller i have doesn t work with older non nvme drives boot configuration now we need to enter the new system to rebuild the boot loader and initrd and so on first we bind mounts and chroot into the zfs disk mount rbind dev mnt dev mount rbind proc mnt proc mount rbind sys mnt sys chroot mnt bin bash next we add an extra service that imports the bpool on boot to make sure it survives a zpool cache destruction cat etc systemd system zfs import bpool service eof unit defaultdependencies no before zfs import scan service before zfs import cache service service type oneshot remainafterexit yes execstart sbin zpool import n o cachefile none bpool work around to preserve zpool cache execstartpre bin mv etc zfs zpool cache etc zfs preboot_zpool cache execstartpost bin mv etc zfs preboot_zpool cache etc zfs zpool cache install wantedby zfs import target eof enable the service systemctl enable zfs import bpool service i had to trim down etc fstab and etc crypttab to only contain references to the legacy filesystems srv is still btrfs if we don t already have a tmpfs defined in etc fstab ln s usr share systemd tmp mount etc systemd system systemctl enable tmp mount rebuild boot loader with support for zfs but also to workaround grub s missing zpool features support grub probe boot grep q zfs update initramfs c k all sed i s grub_cmdline_linux grub_cmdline_linux root zfs rpool root debian etc default grub update grub for good measure make sure the right disk is configured here for example you might want to tag both drives in a raid array dpkg reconfigure grub pc install grub to efi while you re there grub install target x86_64 efi efi directory boot efi bootloader id debian recheck no floppy filesystem mount ordering the rationale here in the openzfs guide is a little strange but i don t dare ignore that mkdir etc zfs zfs list cache touch etc zfs zfs list cache bpool touch etc zfs zfs list cache rpool zed f verify that zed updated the cache by making sure these are not empty cat etc zfs zfs list cache bpool cat etc zfs zfs list cache rpool once the files have data stop zed fg press ctrl c fix the paths to eliminate mnt sed ei s mnt etc zfs zfs list cache snapshot initial install zfs snapshot bpool boot debian install zfs snapshot rpool root debian install exit chroot exit finalizing one last sync was done in rescue mode for fs in boot boot efi home do echo syncing fs to mnt fs rsync ashaxx info progress2 delete fs mnt fs done then we unmount all filesystems mount grep v zfs tac awk mnt print 3 xargs i umount lf zpool export a reboot swap the drives and boot in zfs hurray benchmarks this is a test that was ran in single user mode using fio and the ars technica recommended tests which are single 4kib random write process fio name randwrite4k1x ioengine posixaio rw randwrite bs 4k size 4g numjobs 1 iodepth 1 runtime 60 time_based end_fsync 1 16 parallel 64kib random write processes fio name randwrite64k16x ioengine posixaio rw randwrite bs 64k size 256m numjobs 16 iodepth 16 runtime 60 time_based end_fsync 1 single 1mib random write process fio name randwrite1m1x ioengine posixaio rw randwrite bs 1m size 16g numjobs 1 iodepth 1 runtime 60 time_based end_fsync 1 strangely that s not exactly what the author jim salter did in his actual test bench used in the zfs benchmarking article the first thing is there s no read test at all which is already pretty strange but also it doesn t include stuff like dropping caches or repeating results so here s my variation which i called fio ars bench sh for now it just batches a bunch of fio tests one by one 60 seconds each it should take about 12 minutes to run as there are 3 pair of tests read write with and without async my bias before building running and analysing those results is that zfs should outperform the traditional stack on writes but possibly not on reads it s also possible it outperforms it on both because it s a newer drive a new test might be possible with a new external usb drive as well although i doubt i will find the time to do this results all tests were done on wd blue sn550 drives which claims to be able to push 2400mb s read and 1750mb s write an extra drive was bought to move the lvm setup from a wdc wds500g1b0b 00as40 ssd a wd blue m 2 2280 ssd that was at least 5 years old spec d at 560mb s read 530mb s write benchmarks were done on the m 2 ssd drive but discarded so that the drive difference is not a factor in the test in practice i m going to assume we ll never reach those numbers because we re not actually nvme this is an old workstation so the bottleneck isn t the disk itself for our purposes it might still give us useful results rescue test luks lvm ext4 those tests were performed with everything shutdown after either entering the system in rescue mode or by reaching that target with systemctl rescue the network might have been started before or after the test as well systemctl start systemd networkd so it should be fairly reliable as basically nothing else is running raw numbers from the job curie lvm log converted to mib s and manually merged test read i o read iops write i o write iops rand4k4g1x 39 27 10052 212 15 54310 rand4k4g1x fsync 1 39 29 10057 2 73 699 rand64k256m16x 1297 00 20751 1068 57 17097 rand64k256m16x fsync 1 1290 90 20654 353 82 5661 rand1m16g1x 315 15 315 563 77 563 rand1m16g1x fsync 1 345 88 345 157 01 157 peaks are at about 20k iops and 1 3gib s read 1gib s write in the 64kb blocks with 16 jobs slowest is the random 4k block sync write at an abysmal 3mb s and 700 iops the 1mb read write tests have lower iops but that is expected rescue test zfs this test was also performed in rescue mode raw numbers from the job curie zfs log converted to mib s and manually merged test read i o read iops write i o write iops rand4k4g1x 77 20 19763 27 13 6944 rand4k4g1x fsync 1 76 16 19495 6 53 1673 rand64k256m16x 1882 40 30118 70 58 1129 rand64k256m16x fsync 1 1865 13 29842 71 98 1151 rand1m16g1x 921 62 921 102 21 102 rand1m16g1x fsync 1 908 37 908 64 30 64 peaks are at 1 8gib s read also in the 64k job like above but much faster the write is as expected much slower at 70mib s compared to 1gib s but it should be noted the sync write doesn t degrade performance compared to async writes although it s still below the lvm 300mb s conclusions really zfs has trouble performing in all write conditions the random 4k sync write test is the only place where zfs outperforms lvm in writes and barely 7mib s vs 3mib s everywhere else writes are much slower sometimes by an order of magnitude and before some zfs zealot jumps in talking about the slog or some other cache that could be added to improved performance i ll remind you that those numbers are on a bare bones nvme drive pretty much as fast storage as you can find on this machine adding another nvme drive as a cache probably will not improve write performance here still those are very different results than the tests performed by salter which shows zfs beating traditional configurations in all categories but uncached 4k reads not writes that said those tests are very different from the tests i performed here where i test writes on a single disk not a raid array which might explain the discrepancy also note that neither lvm or zfs manage to reach the 2400mb s read and 1750mb s write performance specification zfs does manage to reach 82 of the read performance 1973mb s and lvm 64 of the write performance 1120mb s lvm hits 57 of the read performance and zfs hits barely 6 of the write performance overall i m a bit disappointed in the zfs write performance here i must say maybe i need to tweak the record size or some other zfs voodoo but i ll note that i didn t have to do any such configuration on the other side to kick zfs in the pants real world experience this section document not synthetic backups but actual real world workloads comparing before and after i switched my workstation to zfs docker performance i had the feeling that running some git hook which was firing a docker container was slower somehow it seems that at runtime zfs backends are significant slower than their overlayfs ext4 equivalent may 16 14 42 52 curie systemd 1 home docker overlay2 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