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y 2026 for gaming and has since been active on talk 2026 iran war which falls under wp ct a i should know about the ctop removed an older for wp aware user talk notification in diff 1341079002 gurkubondinn 13 51 4 september 2026 utc reply i don t even see much worth responding to obviously i m not gaming anything since i m well past 1 700 edits now and i ve never requested the extended confirmed status the ai accusation from this user also come to literally nothing at the actual ai page he tried to complain in originally my comments on the iran war talk page led to changes per my suggestions as you are supposed to do instead of doing edits yourself on such pages let me know if i have anything i actually need to answer for because i m quite tired of this unsubstantiated harassment over what amounts to weeks now from 3 different users how about you guys actually attack the edits and not the editor for once guile s theme talk 12 09 6 september 2026 utc reply there were three recent reports opened against the same user i do not know what is going on or why he is being reported at different noticeboards at the same time wikipedia ai noticeboard user guile s theme wikipedia sockpuppet investigations guile s theme 04 september 2026 wikipedia administrators noticeboard incidents user guile s theme s ai use and behavior issues and ae after guile s theme s ecr was revoked he was asked to request it again after making 500 edits so he was not supposed to comment at talk 2026 iran war he was only allowed to make edit requests not start discussions i am not sure if there is a case of competence mstl talk 18 20 7 september 2026 utc reply no idea i just filed this because i saw the ain report now closed and noticed the ecr vios i have nothing to do with the ani thread that was created later and am not keen on getting dragged into that gurkubondinn 18 24 7 september 2026 utc reply just realised that i forgot to replace requested action above that should have said something like page block from ct ai i talk page which could be lifted after regainind extendedconfirmed rights gurkubondinn 09 50 15 september 2026 utc reply adding to this guile s theme was recently engaged in a rather heated content dispute regarding the tang dynasty article after which they unceremoniously reverted the close of an rfc on the dispute before continuing to fight over the subject at wp an which resulted in tban discussions to be honest a lot of the arguing against them was less than ideal as well but i m just adding this detail to affirm that this user has a storied history of difficult and battleground behavior mit khavershaft royz vi tsibele redt mit mir 02 05 8 september 2026 utc reply indian milhist article edit dealt with for future reference wp rfpp or wp rfpp b might be a better venue pppery it has begun 02 17 17 september 2026 utc reply the following discussion has been closed please do not modify it 1947 gilgit rebellion edit talk history links watch logs give ecp to the article if i m not severely misunderstanding something here this whole article falls squarely within wp ct imh i did check the page history and there has been some disruptive editing by non ec editors so i see no reason not to put a blue lock on it maltazarian ᚾ parley displaystyle lor investigate ᛅ 00 04 10 september 2026 utc reply it does indeed ecp applied indefinitely the bushranger one ping only 00 14 10 september 2026 utc reply more ct sa protection requested edit dealt with pppery it has begun 02 17 17 september 2026 utc reply the following discussion has been closed please do not modify it simla agreement edit talk history links watch logs requested action under wp ct sa some sort of page protection to prevent tas making edits like this one which by changing one word caused enwiki to for months claim in wikivoice that the pakistani government were behind the 2025 pahalgam attack not exactly ideal npov blue or grey don t know it s very wp ct imh but it does also have a contemporary and diplomatic aspect and semi protection would have stopped the previous disruption but the aforementioned aspect happens to be india and pakistan feuding with a side of allegations of government sponsored terrorist attacks which by my careful calculations might make the article a greater target for disruption much to consider but fortunately i don t have to do the considering that s your job maltazarian ᚾ parley displaystyle lor investigate ᛅ 02 38 10 september 2026 utc reply hit enter and immediately realized this absolutely should get a blue lock not sure what i was saying had to be considered maltazarian ᚾ parley displaystyle lor investigate ᛅ 02 40 10 september 2026 utc reply indefinetly ecp d under imh the bushranger one ping only 02 52 10 september 2026 utc reply sideeffect edit sideeffect talk contribs wp gaming check did the sideeffect account game the extendedconfirmed privilege to edit in the arab israeli conflict contentious topic area which is covered by wp ecr if so should their ec grant be revoked gaming check tool output plot revisions summary stats sean hoyland talk 12 17 13 september 2026 utc reply i have edited constructively so wp pgame does not apply side effect talk to your doctor 20 12 13 september 2026 utc reply some stats for nerds out of the 443 accounts that acquired the ec grant in the past year by actively editing on 20 days or less since their registration like the sideeffect account 137 31 have been indefinitely blocked 1 was blocked for 6 months and 73 16 of those accounts have been tagged as socks and assigned to sockmaster categories the ec grant was revoked from 20 accounts 14 of those accounts were indefinitely blocked 6 of which were tagged as socks and assigned to sockmaster categories sean hoyland talk 13 11 13 september 2026 utc reply i don t think this is gaming yes their edits are a lot more large now but it s not like they did only minor edits before they removed presumably closed move templates went to the wp npov noticeboard about an issue with the wording of article involving nuclear weapons and even nominated an article for wp speedy there are many small edits amongst that but i believe that assuming good faith that these were wikignoming and the user is simply more interested in ct pia topics is the best idea i am unaffiliated with sideeffect i only saw them from their cleanup attempts on the article for palestine in solidarity brynn who likes editing talk w me 14 16 13 september 2026 utc reply i don t know how to reliably distinguish between gnoming and gaming but i can t revoke grants so it doesn t matter for context the account came to my attention while testing the verbose option of recent grants part today after a tool rebuild sean hoyland talk 16 38 13 september 2026 utc reply i do not see gaming i see a user making productive constructive edits fixing typos and wording errors across the project the bushranger one ping only 17 28 13 september 2026 utc reply i also see a user making productive constructive edits fixing typos and wording errors across the project and i assume after the ec grant that s one of the reasons i made the report it s an edge case and unconstructive is only part of the pgame test so it is a way to see how pgame is employed in practice you can ask based on the rest of pgame are these trivial edits to raise sideeffect s access level so there is a question of intent which i can t see obviously perhaps it would be helpful for sideeffect to state their intent was it to rapidly gain ec in order to edit constructively in the arab israeli conflict contentious topic area or not my view is that sideeffect s statement i have edited constructively so wp pgame does not apply is not quite true because it only addresses a single element of pgame the constructive vs unconstructive test and given that pgame states the purpose of having these access levels is to help people get and demonstrate that they have the practical experience needed for certain kinds of editing edits that rapidly reach the technical level but don t get the person any real experience are often considered gaming the system you can ask do these kinds of constructive fixes provide the practical experience needed to edit in the topic area if this somewhat hand wavy requirement is not part of pgame enforcement in practice and i think it probably isn t perhaps it should be removed from the guideline maybe the community is okay with this kind of rapid ec grant acquisition pattern in practice it is not very unusual it s pretty easy to rapidly make 500 of these kinds of edits wikimedia provides several newcomer tools to help people with it or constructive pre ec edits gnoming edits can be outsourced to an agent the person can take back control of the account once ec has been granted and no one is likely to notice so i sometimes wonder about the practical utility of the current pgame guideline wording sean hoyland talk 09 41 15 september 2026 utc reply the palestine article has ai hallucinations and other serious issues that have not been addressed for two years i m trying to fix it i m not on a rampage to edit the broader topic area i haven t added a single piece of new content to it intent is also irrelevant even if i joined wikipedia to edit ec articles it s perfectly acceptable everyone has the right to edit any wikipedia article we share knowledge under the principles of neutrality and open collaboration the purpose of ec is to prevent disruption and i haven t been disruptive side effect talk to your doctor 10 26 15 september 2026 utc reply with due respect to my colleagues above i disagree and do think this is gaming i see lots of trivial edits including at least one clear ecr violation and then as soon as they hit ecr they started editing palestine if that s not gaming then i don t know what is pppery it has begun 02 20 17 september 2026 utc reply that is not an ecr violation the arab israeli conflict is the contentious topic not israel or palestine on its own it s about nuclear weapons i did the same thing for every country most of my edit s on palestine is cleanup although i did make some edits related to a i conflict during cleanup side effect talk to your doctor 17 22 17 september 2026 utc reply why does israel allegedly have nuclear weapons to threaten its neighboring arab countries hence the page itself is inherently related to the conflict pppery it has begun 16 44 18 september 2026 utc reply requesting a move on that page for the purpose of consistency is imho not an ecr violation but is instead exactly the sort of edit requests related to articles within the topic area provided they are not disruptive that ecr explicitly allows the bushranger one ping only 19 16 18 september 2026 utc reply a requested move is not an edit request as arbcom uses the term see wikipedia_talk arbitration requests case palestine israel_articles_4 clarification request palestine israel articles july 2020 pppery it has begun 19 56 18 september 2026 utc reply that s a truly bizzare and imho unfortunate ruling the bushranger one ping only 23 23 18 september 2026 utc reply that s a fair point however i m permitted to make edit requests and i haven t participated in any discussions there requesting a requested move is itself a type of edit request i asked that the page be renamed and the community voted to change it could you point out any specific issues with my edits i m not sure why you d want to have my extended confirmed status revoked side effect talk to your doctor 19 18 18 september 2026 utc reply i don t see a need for any action here newyorkbrad talk 09 37 20 september 2026 utc reply the account s earliest 200 edits are concerning but they have ceased artificially subdividing their edits there s nothing concerning in the account s subsequent editing and it has now made over 700 edits i think that ecr revocation would be inappropriate in this case arctic ocean 10 14 20 september 2026 utc reply 2026 48147 63 edit dealt with pppery it has begun 02 20 17 september 2026 utc reply the following discussion has been closed please do not modify it talk cultural marxism conspiracy theory edit subject history links watch logs 2026 48147 63 talk contribs deleted contribs logs filter log block user block log requested action would like this ta blocked for incivility in a contentious topic area they are disrupting an rm that falls within wp ap and their behaviour is clearly not in line with pags 1 2 3 failure to wp agf and casting wp aspersions 4 i warn them to please knock it off or get out of the discussion 5 6 they respond no and follow it with more of the same with a sprinkle of personal attacks and if it wasn t obvious enough they re wp nothere they sign off with larry sanger was based which i m sure needs no further elaboration please rid the discussion of the source of this foolishness before i have to read any more of it maltazarian ᚾ parley displaystyle lor investigate ᛅ 01 23 15 september 2026 utc reply blocked no thanks none of that in a ctop not from anyone sennecaster chat 05 14 15 september 2026 utc reply sennecaster guards the exiled jester has returned to the court can you put a temporary semi protection on the talk page so this fellow can t keep coming back with tas maltazarian ᚾ parley displaystyle lor investigate ᛅ 16 21 15 september 2026 utc reply maltazarian semi protected for a period of 72 hours after which the page will be automatically unprotected done under wp ct at this time sennecaster chat 16 43 15 september 2026 utc reply missbvcc edit ec revoked pppery it has begun 02 21 17 september 2026 utc reply the following discussion has been closed please do not modify it missbvcc talk contribs i believe this user engaged in ec gaming in order to edit in the israeli palestinian topic area see this edit made immediately after becoming ec https en wikipedia org w index php title talk zionism diff prev oldid 1375021027 they made many minor edits to inflate their edit count https en wikipedia org w index php title special contributions missbvcc target missbvcc offset limit 500 iohannvsvervs talk 12 36 15 september 2026 utc reply i firmly deny the accusation my 501 edits accumulated over roughly 4 months which does not comply with the definition of wp ecgaming my edits were spread around a wide range of different and unrelated topics and articles and mostly focused on style grammar and typocs because this is my style of copy editing as for now i don t deny that the edit in israeli palestinian area came after my ec confirmation but timing alone is hardly ever an evidence of intent wp ecgaming is not a rule against ec editors to exercize their right to access a topic the moment they chose to my interest for the definition of zionism was prompted by a heated discussion i had this morning with someone on this topic that made me check the definition on various tertiary sources vs wikipedia and thus draw my attention on the lead section of this 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