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lona textos jurídicis catalans lleis i costums 1 1 barcelona 2003 online here pp 101 118 7 the trial record is marqués els documents doc no 33 which again i haven t been able to get at and because of its date misses publication in the catalunya carolíngia 8 sal la s appearances are very numerous i counted 71 when i did but of those more than half are in the urgell archive and so printed in cebrià baraut ed els documents dels anys 981 1010 de l arxiu capitular de la seu d urgell in urgellia vol 3 urgell 1980 pp 7 166 and the pre 1000 ones in the catalunya carolíngia however there isn t really a focused study of the man i d recommend more than jonathan jarrett pathways of power in late carolingian catalonia ph d thesis university of london 2005 online here pp 294 308 8 bis although as said in n 7 above i can t actually get at the text that article i mentioned gave me this extra context and it is climent miró i tuset els monestirs com a part de l estratègia dels comtes d urgell en el control del territori el cas de santa cecília d elins 881 1085 in annals del centre d estudis comarcals del ripollès vol 25 ibix col loquis d estudis transpirinencs 8 ripoll 2014 pp 349 360 online here where see pp 356 357 8 ter the others are marqués els documents doc nos 13 16 17 18 25 29 of which the first four are printed as ordeig catalunya carolíngia 8 doc nos 445 467 468 508 and are thus online for extra points tell me what s wrong with no 468 elins 17 that means it at least must be a forgery otherwise that ll be a future blog post 8 quater i don t want to try and cover all the references in this debate here at this late stage but a recent treatment which puts bishop ermengol squarely in the hotseat is carles gascón chopo and oliver vergés i pons l acta de consagració de la catedral d urgell un fals del temps del bisbe ermengol redactat entre 1016 i 1024 in afers vol 32 no 86 2017 pp 191 220 on academia edu here i don t agree with everything vergés has written but i think he s on the mark with this one 9 jonathan jarrett archbishop ató of osona false metropolitans on the marca hispanica in archiv für diplomatik vol 56 münchen 2010 pp 1 42 10 the outside frames of the window are ordeig catalunya carolíngia 8 doc no 586 of june 970 surviving only in a seventeenth century copy and almost certainly interpolated or failing it ibid 585 of may 970 also anachronistic and suspicious failing which you have to go back to ordeig catalunya carolíngia iv doc no 1057 of february that year and then at the other side ibid doc no 1107 while in the middle we have two papal bulls he asked for which annoyingly don t carry dates but for which we have external dating that makes january 971 most likely in late june 971 also an embassy arrived at córdoba which borrell was understood to have sent and i don t see how that impression could arise if he hadn t sent it which probably makes his return from rome no later than march the same year for that see dolors bramon de quan érem o no musulmans textos del 713 al 1010 continuació de l obra de j m millàs i vallicrosa jaume caresmar 13 vic 2000 425 426 on miro s appointment at girona apart from jarrett archbishop ató compare ramon martí delà cesari i ató primers arquebisbes dels comtes prínceps de barcelona 951 953 981 in analecta sacra tarraconensia vol 67 barcelona 1994 pp 369 386 online here and josep maria salrach i marès l assassinat de l arquebisbe ató 971 i les lluites pel poder en els orígens de catalunya discurs de recepció de josep maria salrach i marès com a membre numerari de la secció històrico arqueològica llegit el dia 30 de maig de 2018 barcelona 2018 sadly but predictably no longer online 13 493689 79 997592 4 comments posted in catalonia charters currently reading now working on tagged borrell ii forgery mabillon ramon ordeig i mata santa cecília d elins urgell gallery one man churches in the western isles posted on 27 may 2026 this gallery contains 16 photos in recent years a lot of my posts have been collections of photos from very long ago of things medieval and while that is in some ways fine i m here to tell you about them it has struck continue reading 2 comments frontier warlords in ankara posted on 17 may 2026 2 comments this is a post that got shunted down the queue for reasons of respect and priority i originally wrote it about four months ago it still might want reporting though so here you are every now and then i remember that the ostensible purpose of this blog is to publicise my endeavours rather than report on academic things that happened years ago or sadly commemorate dead scholars of course for much of the last decade and especially the last few years there hasn t been as much to report as once there was but i m kind of getting through that now you will recall probably that i have left the uk and headed for india via a stay in türkiye which for visa reasons i had to punctuate with a short stay in my actual research area and more specifically in seu d urgell a bit of catalonia i d never before visited i will i promise report on that i am reckoning to be pretty brutal about chewing up backlog from here on but right now something on more than just tourism even though it was really useful academic tourism your humble author indicating his nerves in his body language before a lectern in bilkent universitesi ankara image by luca zavagno and used with permission no instead i gave a paper hey that had been a while and the previous one for no fault of the organisers not really a great experience anyway the gap had been long enough actually to give me nerves before presenting though that was also because i was less than confident in my material even on the train down to the place in question i had a 12 000 word text with no clear argument rather than the lucid 7 500 which was really desirable a situation from which my beloved wife had calmly to help me down 1 it did go all right in the end but let me tell you how this had occurred alarmingly this is a story which goes back to 2016 when at a set of sessions at the international medieval congress under the auspices of my rethinking the medieval frontier project whose website i see has finally gone as i assumed it would i will have to resurrect it here i presented a paper which as i saw it filled a gap i admit it was mainly a teaching gap right then and there i had that spring been trying to use the infamous banū qasī andalusī frontier warlords par excellence as a teaching example of the kind of space for independence granted by the breadth of the christian muslim frontier zones in the early medieval iberian peninsula there is probably a separate post to write about my twisting efforts to avoid using the words spain or spanish here but for now just take my word for it i have reasons for not doing so now the thing about the banū qasī is that pretty much every book on al andalus and a fair few on the christian polities north of it contain something on the banū qasī and it s usually max two paragraphs roger collins finds a page and a half and in 2014 jesus brufal published an article which i hadn t then found which uses them as one of its case studies and gets up to six 1 there is a lot more in spanish though still not huge amounts but of course i couldn t set spanish to my students 2 so my double goal then was to have a leeds paper that responded to our frontier theme which also put something about the banū qasī into a hopefully printable form for my students of course both needed an argument but i didn t have too much trouble with that the paper however rested very heavily on a book by jesús lorenzo jiménez that had come out in 2010 and he turned up for the paper as well so probably wasn t very impressed by my novelty so next year i gave my students the draft version and wondered what in the end i would do with it 3 this is arnedo the oldest certain base of our subject family jesús lorenzo s book made me look this place up and suddenly understand a bit more of why they always had somewhere to bounce back from image by exequias flickr licensed under cc by sa 2 0 wikimedia commons now fast forward to 2022 when the international medieval congress returned to the theme of borders which it had been meant to have in the pandemic year and couldn t i was reluctantly persuaded that it would probably look a bit feeble if the leeds based project on medieval frontiers and borders couldn t make some kind of a showing at this huge conference on medieval borders and frontiers in leeds so i put together two sessions and a round table with the aid much needed of catarina madureira villamariz of the universidade nova de lisboa who has become a friend of the project in recent years of course i never got as far as reporting all this here because well the usual reasons but they did happen and at the end of it while i was unknown to myself busy incubating the dose of covid 19 i d picked up during the sessions we sat at benches outside the old bar and decided together that even though my other publication plans for the project were dead in the water we could manage at least to put together a themed journal issue and that would be something to show at last for all of these years of effort 4 so once i was over the covid 19 i started on this i sort of resolved to myself that if i could get it done with no more than an e mail a day and hopefully fewer i could find the time somehow and so it has proven though we re not finished yet and my goodness there have been a lot of those e mails the story of this publication will be told in its due course like when it s out but for now let s just observe that it left me with the problem of what i myself wanted to offer and i decided that given the global theme we were intentionally adopting and the very sketchy nature of some of the papers i ve given for the project the best option was probably to finish the banū qasī paper at last and as it turned out a fuller literature search led me to a conference paper by lorenzo and juan josé larrea arguing that in fact the banū qasī were not on the frontier and i thought this is just what i need because that is only a matter of how you define a frontier and how it changes which is kind of exactly one of the things i think this project is about 5 so in what time i could find i wrote a new version explaining what i thought was missing from that perspective and sent it in that was in fact pretty much what i was doing instead of being at the 2023 imc it went off in late july 2023 later in 2025 in another adventure as yet untold and for which i haven t yet properly processed the photos because that is also a backlog i got to see the landscape around the family s second base tudela and again understand why it was they kept losing it especially around the town itself where i seem to have no good pictures it is pretty approachable but still dramatic photography by me through a train window peer review when it came was shall we say decently robust and i think i know who at least two of the three reviewers were one of them felt that really this wasn t doing much about the banū qasī themselves that lorenzo hadn t already done and i was encouraged to consider what i was actually adding to the scholarship another insisted i stop being lazy and actually do some proper reading not how they put it but how i felt it on the kingdom or princedom of pamplona and its relations with islam and doing so made me realise that the foundation on which i d based my argument was in part faulty 6 this was one of a number of things which made me aware that with this step across the frontier i really wasn t in my core zones of knowledge any more but because i was by then properly in the hole and also chasing other submissions for the issue which made mine redundant unless they came in i didn t find time to address this until i entered my lately productive period of unemployment but at that point i had so many things i d promised and each took longer than expected 7 and that would have been fine except that i had allowed a good friend of mine to set me a deadline look there was advertising and everything that friend was dr luca zavagno who has been on board with the rethinking the medieval frontier project since the beginning and who was also rewriting something for this same journal issue so i felt there was only one thing i could reasonably present when he asked me especially in the time i had it had to be something which i was already working on and which spoke to his interests somewhat and that meant it was this but things went closer to the wire here than i would have wanted because i was essentially trying to do three things at once write something that gave a usefully focused account in english of the banū qasī actually the least important of my goals given that other paper but not one i let go of easily and which loaded the paper down with narrative write something which actually did what i claimed the project could do and demonstrated the potential of medieval situations to add something to our understandings of frontiers which existing theories wouldn t cover which gave it a substantial sort of anhang of theoretical analysis in which the reviewers were not at all interested and lastly write something which actually answered the reviewers various objections actually a different goal and this is how we wound up basically rewriting my frankenpaper together on a high speed train a day and a half before i was due to give a version of it in front of one of my main collaborators in the project well i m not sure how much credit i can take given all of that but it went ok in the end i found a thread kept the theory in but at a minimum and made the narrative serve the new argument about pamplona and on the day managed to deliver with reasonable flair and more or less in the allotted time like the professional i sometimes forget i am except for where right then no one was paying me i was giving this in a turkish university of course so i had no real idea what kind of reception it would get but the first one was a quite focused one about whether what bernard of septimania a rebellious marquis of barcelona for those to whom he is not a familiar figure was doing at the same time needed to be part of the picture and it was a bit like being handed a gold embossed licence that just read do your thing man and the rest of the discussion did not fall short either i owe considerable thanks not just to luca and to his colleagues david thornton and paul latimer for being there and contributing but also for training up so lively and well informed a bunch of students this doesn t really convey the flavour of the room which went on a few rows further back but i think it does show everyone living i ve mentioned in this post except the man behind the camera luca zavagno whose image is here used with permission so that happened it is done it was good and the article is resubmitted with hand drawn graphics yet already because 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