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y good and relevant ap and especially upi almost never bothered as noted by the library of congress if a photo is particularly well regarded or famous they probably did however they did sometimes include notices when they redistributed photos from other papers that were copyrighted this notice was supposed to be included in the paper as well and usually was from what i have seen every time i have seen a wire photo scan with a copyright notice the newspapers also carried the notice though like all newspaper attribution things on rare occasion they sometimes messed up this is why it is good to check multiple copies so publication in newspapers without notice is also valid evidence parakanyaa talk 19 06 30 july 2026 utc reply copyright status of the peter elfelt collection edit latest comment 1 day ago 8 comments 5 people in discussion the royal danish library and the museum of copenhagen jointly hold the peter elfelt collection comprising approximately 170 000 digitised glass negatives from 1890 1970 the library states that the photographs are free of copyright and posted in good resolution so they can be used for many purposes the collection is an important visual record of denmark including official and private portraits places public life social development and the royal court its royal and diplomatic material is also relevant to wider scandinavian history peter elfelt was royal court photographer but after his death in 1931 the collection was continued by elfelt co authorship dates and publication history may therefore vary could the library s statement support treating the entire collection as public domain on commons including in the united states or is a file specific copyright assessment still required would it be appropriate to create a collection wide template such as pd elfelt collection perhaps with parameters for date photographer and us status or would the safer approach be to begin with a source template peter elfelt collection identifying the collection and catalogue record while requiring separate copyright tags for each file brodmann10 talk 13 50 27 july 2026 utc reply i think it would be worth asking the library and museum what exactly they mean by free of copyright there s a chance they also acquired the rights to the images via elfelt co in addition to the negatives themselves or there could just be a more complicated reason for the public domain status but the free of copyright phrasing could also be a mistranslation mistakenly overly broad or a term of art in danish law that doesn t mean quite the same thing in other languages this seems like a hugely valuable collection for commons and the library and museum do seem eager to have it shared it would just probably be a good idea to get their confirmation first as they might be able to answer all your questions 19h00s talk 14 13 27 july 2026 utc reply thank you i am happy to contact the royal danish library for clarification what should the enquiry specifically ask them to confirm should i contact them directly and if necessary forward their reply to vrt or should the request itself be handled through vrt i have not used vrt before so guidance would be appreciated brodmann10 talk 14 29 27 july 2026 utc reply before heading to vrt i would contact the library and ask them about the rights status of the items in the elfelt collection the library is more likely to know the nuances of the copyright than the museum specifically you want to ask them to clarify what they mean when they say the collection is free of copyright are the photographs from the collection in the public domain in denmark and if so how did the library come to that conclusion do all works in the collection have the same rights status even though there is a wide range of dates and authors if the works are in the public domain in denmark when did they enter the public domain this question is relevant for uraa copyright restoration but i won t go too far down that rabbit hole unless it s needed and if the works are not in the public domain what does the library mean by free of copyright you can of course start by introducing yourself and telling them that you hope to share the collection via wikimedia commons but that you wanted to confirm the exact rights status of the works before going any further it s likely that someone on the library s licensing or copyright team knows about commons and would understand the intent 19h00s talk 17 48 27 july 2026 utc reply thank you very much i have now emailed the royal danish library and asked them to clarify the rights status of the collection when i receive a reply i will post it here brodmann10 talk 21 04 27 july 2026 utc reply the danish status may also be different than the u s status the former should be 70pma thus public domain there and all of europe the u s situation may be based on date of publication instead the uraa may have restored some of the works so they may expire year by year as 95 years from publication provided they were published before 2003 if unpublished at that point they became 70pma in the u s as well but yes the more details we know the better carl lindberg talk 02 54 28 july 2026 utc reply for denmark there is also pd denmark50 50 years from creation for photographs stefan2 talk 05 43 28 july 2026 utc reply we also have pd because insert exact text from the webpage it has been used when we did mass uploads from archives that released images from their archives under no known copyright restrictions ran talk 19 27 1 august 2026 utc reply brazilian formal portrait from 1942 unknown photographer does pd brazil photo apply edit latest comment 3 days ago 4 comments 3 people in discussion hello i would appreciate assistance in determining the copyright status of the following file https commons wikimedia org wiki file joao_batista_diogo_de_siqueira_1942_aos_21_anos png the relevant facts are the photograph was created in fortaleza ceará brazil in 1942 it is a formal documentary portrait of joão batista diogo de siqueira at the age of 21 taken on the occasion of his graduation in accounting sciences the original photographer is unknown the physical photographic print has been preserved in the historical archive of the diogo de siqueira family daniel abreu diogo de siqueira digitized and digitally restored the print the restoration was intended to reproduce the original photograph faithfully it involved digital cleaning removal of stains scratches and other damage and general preservation work without altering the original composition or creating a new artistic interpretation neither the family nor storyknight audiovisual entertainment enterprise ltda claims to be the original photographer or to have received a copyright assignment from the unknown photographer the photograph appears to be an ordinary formal and documentary studio portrait rather than an artistic photographic creation we have not found evidence that the photograph was publicly published before its upload to wikimedia commons in 2026 as far as the family is currently aware it may previously have existed only as a physical print preserved in the family archive a vrt volunteer initially suggested that the photograph might be free under pd brazil photo but later explained that vrt only documents permissions received from copyright holders since the original photographer is unknown and neither the family nor storyknight claims to hold the original copyright the volunteer directed me to this copyright forum for community review my questions are does pd brazil photo apply to this formal documentary portrait created in brazil in 1942 does the absence of evidence of publication before 2026 create a problem concerning the copyright status of the photograph in the united states which copyright templates should be used on the file page should the current vrt permission pending notice and the cc by sa 4 0 licensing statement be removed should daniel abreu diogo de siqueira remain credited only for the digitization and digital restoration while the original author is identified as an unknown photographer vrt ticket 2026072610000676 thank you very much for your assistance daniel abreu diogo de siqueira talk 21 01 27 july 2026 utc reply i see no reason why pd brazil photo will not apply ruslik talk 19 27 28 july 2026 utc reply pd brazil photo seems to be a problematic template first it states that the photograph is in the public domain in brazil because it was created before some specific date then it states that the photograph is in the public domain in the united states because it was published during certain time periods and without copyright formalities however there are several errors in these statements and far from all brazilian photographs meet those requirements the following three requirements are given in the template it was first published outside the united states and not published in the u s within 30 days this is wrong the part and not published in the u s within 30 days means that the photograph is exempt from uraa restoration the only difference if the photograph was published within 30 days is that the third bullet point in the template does not need to be fulfilled therefore this part of the first bullet point can be removed the part it was first published outside the united states is insufficient if it was first published outside the united states you need to check in which country it was first published the brazilian copyright law on the other hand doesn t based on what is stated in the template require that the photo was published in any specific country or even that the photo has been published at all and therefore the brazilian part of the template doesn t say anything about that in particular based on the brazilian part of the template brazilian law does not require that brazil is the source country of the photograph so the template could safely be added as an informative template to any pre 1998 photograph which might be of interest for brazilians people it was first published before 1 march 1989 without copyright notice or before 1964 without copyright renewal or before the source country established copyright relations with the united states the brazilian part of the template only requires that the photograph was created before 19 june 1998 but now we suddenly need publication before 1 march 1989 and there are also conditions concerning copyright formalities this makes the template confusing it was in the public domain in its home country brazil on the uraa date 1 january 1996 here it says that brazil is the source country but this is not a requirement in the brazilian part of the template i suggest removing the statements about the united states and requiring a united states copyright template in all cases after the united states dropped the renewal requirement it became very easy to satisfy the copyright formalities and after the copyright notice requirement was dropped all photographs fail com sc it gets even more confusing if the template is used alongside source united states templates for non brazilian photos of relevance for brazilian people stefan2 talk 20 15 28 july 2026 utc reply well if the first publication was in 2026 on commons then usa will be the source country and the image would be copyrighted until 2062 ruslik talk 20 19 29 july 2026 utc reply may i add these portraits edit latest comment 5 days ago 3 comments 3 people in discussion hi may i add portraits of móric pálfi paulína pálfiová and jozef pálfi from https www smolenice com 22260 kaplnka sv vendelina s palfiovskou hrobkou bakjb talk 12 02 28 july 2026 utc reply we need more information who took the photographs if you know who the photographer was and he died before 1956 then it is ok to add the portraits concerned if you do not know who took the portraits and they were not published until 70 years had passed since they were taken then it is ok if you do not know who took the photographs and they were published published within 70 years of being taken then you must wait for 70 years after they were published in summary you should contact the smolenice municipality and find out who took the photographs when the photographer died when they were taken and when they were first published you should also read this page martinvl talk 15 58 28 july 2026 utc reply might not be necessary unless slovakia has some protection after first publication clause in case of móric pálfi 1812 1897 and paulína pálfiová rod wilczeková 1829 1894 any photo of them was taken more than 120 years ago so that they are in the public domain per pd old assumed as long as slovakia doesn t offer protection after first publication now as for jozef pálfi 1853 1920 here we would need more information nakonana talk 19 32 28 july 2026 utc reply file the_tales_of_indian s_eco_heroes png edit latest comment 4 days ago 2 comments 2 people in discussion hi all i m not usually on the commons so hopefully i ve found the right place i came across a book jacket file the_tales_of_indian s_eco_heroes png which according to the book website 4 is of a 2026 book with the illustration from 1955 so it seems quite unlikely to be just released to public domain to me i would like to know what s the appropriate course of action now lkl 70547 talk 20 03 28 july 2026 utc reply lkl 70547 user athulkrishnan cg who has exactly one other file upload which is a picture of the author of the book claims to be the copyright holder of both the book cover and the photo of the author and to be releasing both into the public domain that s not unimaginable they could be or represent the publisher but seems unlikely the pictures cannot be found elsewhere on the internet though so i d guess they have some connection to the subject one or another way the right thing to do for both of these is to ask for vrt verification sorry to embroil you in the following as someone not usually on the commons but i ve complained in the past that we do not have a good template for this situation i ve seen other users mark such files with no permission since but given the uploader s claim to be the copyright holder that template is terribly unclear about what the issue is that we are not convinced that the uploader is the copyright holder so in this case i d start a full blown deletion request which is what i will do here lkl 70547 you can wash your hands of this jmabel talk 23 46 28 july 2026 utc reply ogl3 vs open government licence 3 0 edit latest comment 3 days ago 2 comments 2 people in discussion i just came across open government licence 3 0 i feel like this is the same license as ogl3 but just not as flushed out of a template i am in no way an expert on british law the open government licenses but is there any reason not to make the open government licence 3 0 template redirect to the ogl3 template the one that caused me to stumble on this was file lionesses victory parade 2025 54688338251 jpg elisfkc talk 23 30 28 july 2026 utc reply yes it should be a...
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