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brian daley ancientchurchorders ancientchurchorders skip to content apostolic tradition apostolic church order didache other church order literature didascalia apostolorum testamentum domini canons of hippolytus apostolic constitutions church orders in genera l anything else tag archives brian daley by alistair c stewart june 14 2025 5 30 pm ps ignatius and the apostolic constitutions again i am presently writing an essay on fourth century antioch with particular reference to apostolic constitutions and ps ignatius more on that another time however at the outset of the essay i suggest that the two sources have sufficient in common to allow them to be treated alongside one another whilst noting that i am unsure that the ignatian forger and the constitutor are the same person this has led to one of those footnotes which just keeps growing it might not even make the final cut so profuse is it becoming and is sufficiently independent that i have decided to share it here so in pursuit of the claim that the two are not identical for references and discussion see stewart 2013 119 134 the main reason for the distinction is that the trinitarian theology of the ps ignatians seems fundamentally to reflect a traditional homoian outlook thus i followed amelungk 1899 now independently followed by gilliam 2017 115 132 in suggesting that the makrostichos creed is the best match for the christology of ps ignatius i went on to suggest that the forger emerged from the circles of meletius who moving from a homoian position eventually accepted nicaea as the basis for the unity of the church the hand of meletius is also discerned in the apostolic constitutions by daley 2010 he is opposed however by mueller 2017 who suggests that the constitutor better represents the theology of euzoius a similar case had been made by kopecek 1985 thus whereas smith 2006 suggests that the pseudo ignatian opposition to imperial intervention in ecclesial affairs is motivated by euzoius inclusive approach we may more probably see this as motivated by dissent from supporters of the exiled and deposed meletius it is also the case as smith suggests that insofar as both documents are seeking to enunciate a traditional antiochene theology in the interests of this unity it is hard to characterize either with precision and it is also possible that as meletius position shifted so his supporters position might shift with him meletius emerges as a champion of nicene orthodoxy only at the end of this period having previously been associated with the homoiousian group while his extant homily preserved by epiphanius is fundamentally conservative and homoian so brennecke 1988 73 74 in response therefore to daley and to mueller as cited above i might suggest that daley makes the apostolic constitutions sound too nicene as mueller rightly points out but that meletius might not always have been quite as nicene as he ended up and as mueller also rightly points out in his conclusion there is some distance between apostolic constitutions and the thought of eunomius which in turn makes it hard to place the document in the euzoian camp in sum the appeal for unity and peace which characterizes the ps ignatians as it did the authentic ignatius reflects the same concern for peace and unity expressed by meletius see for instance his statement in a homily recorded by epiphanius haer 73 29 3 that anyone who speaks of acts should make peace its source and conclusion τὴν εἰρήνην ἀρχὴν ποιεῖσθαι καὶ τέλος a concern which as hihn 2011 suggests led to his re instatement of clerics deposed by eudoxius and thus to his deposition such a concern is less evident in the apostolic constitutions bibliography amelungk arnold 1899 untersuchungen über pseudo ignatius marburg brennecke hanns christof 1988 studien zur geschichte deer homöer der osten bis zum ende der homöischen reichskirche tübingen daley brian e 2010 the enigma of melitius of antioch in ronnie j rombs and alexander y hwang ed tradition and the rule of faith in the early church washington dc 128 150 cavallera ferdinand 1905 le schisme d antioche iv v siècle paris gilliam paul r iii 2017 ignatius of antioch and the arian controversy leiden hihn oliver 2011 the election and deposition of meletius of antioch the fall of an integrative bishop in johan leemans et al ed episcopal elections in late antiquity berlin 357 373 kopecek t a 1985 neo arian religion the evidence of the apostolic constitutions in robert c gregg ed arianism historical and theological reassessments cambridge ma 153 179 mueller joseph g 2017 the trinitarian doctrine of the apostolic constitutions in markus vinzent ed studia patristica 92 leuven 25 39 smith james d iii 2006 on pseudo ignatius fourth century antiochene assertion of episcopal supremacy in frances young et al ed studia patristica 42 leuven 231 236 spoerl k m 1993 the schism at antioch since cavallera in m barnes r williams ed arianism after arius essays on the development of the fourth century 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