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of the world by way of creation again the son participates in the case of the holy spirit s procession substantially and inwardly in the case of the world s creation effectively and outwardly this meliteniotes stresses necessitates the indivisibility of the trinity and this is what was taught by the fathers in particular both athanasius and gregory of nyssa but the procession of the holy spirit from the father through the son signifies his being caused through the son again his illumination or manifestation through the son is synonymous with his existence through the son ff 117 120 meliteniotes in refuting the cypriot s attempts to overturn the opinions of bekkos as these attempts are set forth in chapter ten of the tome stresses that bekkos in self defense did not maintain that the theotokos is called fountain of life according to the same manner and in the same sense that the phrase applies also to the son according to bekkos the theotokos is called fountain of life because from her was born in his human nature the enhypostatic life and word of god but the son is called this because through him from the father proceeds the holy spirit the preëternal enhypostatic life in what follows constantine meliteniotes rejects gregory the cypriot s interpretation which holds that the son is called fountain of life because he bestows life upon those who are dead from sin this view leads to the result that the son did not exist in a preëternal way as fountain of life but he became such in time in order to restore to life those deadened by sin this however is plain arianism again meliteniotes continues it is not that through the son the grace and gifts of the holy spirit pour forth as the cypriot teaches through his tome but it is this very holy spirit himself who pours forth and from him as from a fountain come the gifts again it is not possible to separate the grace from the holy spirit because it fountains from him and is his energy this according to meliteniotes is precisely the concept expressed by chrysostom in his sermon on the holy spirit ff 120 122 a rebuttal of the cypriot s calumnies contained in chapter eleven of his tome wherein he claims that those who side with bekkos interpret the views of the fathers not in harmony with the right outlook of the church and the traditions of the fathers but in mere semblance in a way contrary to their consistency and contrary to the fathers spirit and general teaching in opposition to this constantine meliteniotes testifies that is what the cypriot does who doubts the authenticity of certain fathers and critiques many of them and some of their writings thereby coming into conflict with the tradition of the church while at the same time he ascribes patristic authority to writers like john phurnes niketas stethatos and michael psellos who are nothing more than bearers and representatives of the ecclesiastical tradition ff 122 125 here constantine meliteniotes replies to questions posed by the tome and substantially takes up again opinions of his expressed earlier thus he again stresses that fathers of the church like john of damascus gregory of nyssa cyril of alexandria and others conceive the father to be cause of the holy spirit but through the son which indicates that the son participates in the existential procession of the holy spirit the father again is not cause of the holy spirit by reason of the hypostasis but by reason of the hypostasis and nature certainly the father is the primordial cause of the holy spirit but the son also mediates with respect to his coming forth into being since according to meliteniotes the illumination or manifestation of the holy spirit is synonymous with his coming forth into being it follows that also his hypostatic procession comes about from the father through the son ff 125 127 in reply to g the cypriot s accusations against the man meliteniotes defends bekkos and stresses that as well in his writings as also in his lived teaching he bases himself upon the teaching of holy scripture and of the fathers interpreting this in an orthodox way to the contrary george the cypriot perverts and changes the sense of holy scripture and of the patristic writings according to them it is the teachings of george the cypriot not those of bekkos and his friends that are thorns tares weeds the spawn of vipers and basilisks procurers of spiritual death worthy of drawing down the wrath and vengeance of god ff 127 129 in reply finally to george the cypriot s warning expressed throughout his tome that anyone whether now or in the future who accepts union with the roman church or who has been in communion with her formerly and has not repented shall be cut off from the orthodox church constantine meliteniotes stresses the point that g the cypriot had himself been in communion with the supporters of union but after the change in imperial policy he abandoned and renounced this communion like the prodigal in the gospel passage nevertheless if he repents he shall become once again gladly received in what follows constantine meliteniotes compares george the cypriot to simon magus and accuses him on account of his general attitude and his role in changing the ecclesiastical situation of heresy hypocrisy and self seeking he therefore recommends avoiding the heretical teachings of g the cypriot and expresses his optimism that the turmoil of persecution and the trial of the unionists will pass and ecclesiastical order and truth will be restored once again ff 129 131 repeating the point that the unionists in contrast with the antiunionists hold firmly to ecclesiastical and apostolic tradition meliteniotes stresses that some fathers for instance theophylact of bulgaria deny the procession of the holy spirit through the son doing this because they are unaware of the statements of the fathers like cyril of alexandria athanasius epiphanius etc who speak on this matter in an opposite way to the contrary g the cypriot although he knows these statements abuses and perverts their teaching and denies the authenticity of a part or the whole of their writings ff 131 131v in concluding his first discourse constantine meliteniotes expresses once again his firm commitment to his ideas namely his opposition to the views and policy of george the cypriot and considers the possible consequences of this position finally he makes supplication requesting divine assistance for a restoration of the truth and of the sound faith μάρκος ἀναστ ὄρφανος κωνσταντίνου μελιτηνιώτου λόγοι ἀντιρρητικοὶ δύο νῦν τὸ πρῶτον ἐκδιδόμενοι editio princeps athens 1986 ︎ τὴν εἰς τὸ εἶναι ὕπαρξιν a fairly untranslatable phrase ︎ οὐσίωσιν ︎ posted by bekkos filed in byzantium catholic church church history constantine meliteniotes gregory of cyprus john bekkos orthodox church theology 3 comments reply to a friend who asked do we ever actually know the truth about anything september 15 2025 it is sometimes easier to know what a thing is not than to know what it is if someone argues that a bullet hit john f kennedy in the neck then veered around and wounded john connelly then veered again and landed in the grass fully intact showing no signs of having hit anybody then one can know for certain that the warren commission case against lee harvey oswald which rests on this magic bullet theory is fatally flawed but that does not by itself tell you who killed john f kennedy only that it could not have been oswald acting alone similarly if two jets strike two steel skyscrapers and some hours later these two skyscrapers as well as a third one collapse at free fall speed into their own footprint as though the upper part of the buildings received no physical resistance from the thousands of tons of steel and concrete below them something which defies the laws of physics then one can fairly confidently conclude that something else was involved in causing these buildings to collapse besides the force of the airplanes and the subsequent fires when one adds to this anomaly the fact that a hijacker s passport was purportedly discovered intact at the base of the towers although the jets which the hijackers purportedly commandeered were completely incinerated in striking the buildings this gives all the more reason for being skeptical about the official explanation of what happened it does not by itself tell you how the buildings came down or who did it but it tells you that as in the case of the jfk assassination there are strong reasons for doubting the official explanation people who notice anomalies like this and who ask questions about them are often made the object of abuse by others who are offended by the unwillingness of some to accept popular accounts of things at face value and no doubt it is possible at times that official explanations do give a true account of things a person who doubts everything will doubt also the reality of physical law which is the basis for asking questions like those i asked above about jfk and 9 11 thus there are some people online who have revived the thesis that the earth is flat and will try to defend this claim on social media i must regard them as deluded but when people point out anomalies in official explanations of things on the basis of observable fact and known physical laws and others deride them as insufferable kooks for doing so then it can also be known that it is not those who ask the questions who are dishonest and immoral but those who try to shut them up posted by bekkos filed in america blogging philosophy politics science tags history jfk politics 2 comments pachymeres de michaele palaeologo v 28 september 4 2025 further on the subject of the former patriarch joseph and bekkos failler vol ii pp 528 530 while joseph was residing at the monastery of anaplous a serious illness befell john the patriarch in charge that is to say bekkos who had previously been chartophylax after much suffering he began to improve and the doctors thought it best to transfer the patient to a place of rest so that he could be cared for separately for fear that too much activity would prolong his illness as he was improving and also taking purgative potions the lavra was considered a suitable place for this purpose on account of this the emperor wanted to move joseph he judged it inappropriate for the patriarch who was no longer in office and the patriarch who was currently in office to live at the same monastery but john knew joseph s cheerful disposition he also knew that it was almost thanks to his vote that he had received the helm of the church indeed the sovereign wishing to take his advice had asked joseph about the appropriate person and he had recommended john in preference to the others because he was both learned and experienced in affairs for these reasons therefore but also because he trusted his peaceful spirit john prevented his transfer and with joseph remaining there he himself took up residence at the monastery from that moment on he began to correspond with joseph receiving his replies in a friendly spirit and with great affability the man was indeed peaceful and cheerful and was so disgusted with the church s action that he was not even ashamed to admit that it was his oath that prevented him from being involved in this matter because he assumed one should not do more than what had already been done while john was staying there there came into his hands numerous pamphlets published by the sectarians presenting the union as dangerous and as leading away from god and at the same time presenting the italians as guilty of heresies heresies moreover not veiled and doubtful but manifest and glaring they claimed to take their evidence from the writings texts of which they continually gathered even if it was a matter of some arbitrary expression one might say that was uttered by the saints and that came to them personally as for example with regard to peace that we must make peace when we do not offend god and that we must make war on the contrary when we risk offending god transposing these considerations to a more general level and interspersing their writings with a host of other similar reflections the dissidents presented the union as dangerous consequently bekkos saw himself obliged to write too and to respond to each of their assertions but knowing that scandals arise in this battle of arguments against arguments where the writer cannot escape the accusation real or apparent of transgressing higher things he kept quiet and promised xiphilinos a venerable man who was the church s chief financial officer never to write that is by way of refutation it is to be feared he said that we shall appear to contravene what is established whatever we may say these people who appear to fight and to seek to hold on against ecclesiastical innovation whatever they say and even if they openly attack established dogmas have as sufficient excuse their alleged resistance for the good of the church and then they could easily affect the undertaking they are trying to subvert but as for us even if we put forward most obvious facts we must be satisfied if not only we do not attract attention to ourselves but also if we are not accused of overturning what is established such were the words he spoke then when taking in hand the writings of the sectarians as they contained many fallacies he wanted to refute them on many of their assertions but he restrained himself even if in the end he did not avoid the temptation he thus fell into a host of evils so after continuing his stay for days at the lavra and making a full recovery he returned to constantinople after saying goodbye to joseph with joy posted by bekkos filed in byzantium catholic church church history george pachymeres john bekkos michael viii palaiologos orthodox church pachymeres leave a comment pachymeres de michaele palaeologo v 6 september 4 2025 concerning the emperor s marriage alliance with the serbs and the journey which for that reason the patriarch made to that country 1 failler vol ii pp 452 456 as for his second daughter anne the emperor decided to send her to the kral of serbia stephen uroš to marry uroš s second son milutin because the first who had the same name as his father had been given as a son in law to the king of pannonia once the mutual agreements had been concluded he dispatched the bishop as an ambassador and at the same time sent the young girl with an imposing imperial train on arriving in berroia they decided to send the chartophylax bekkos to stephen uroš and with him the metropolitan of traianoupolis kondoumnes the empress had ordered the chartophylax to take the lead and to find out more clearly about the serbs way of life and government she was preparing a considerable train for her daughter with all the variety of imperial luxury it was therefore incumbent upon bekkos to take the initiative to inform himself and to inform others before the patriarch reached serbia when they arrived not only did they see nothing of the so...