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an athlete it is one of the reasons i made the decision to be a collegiate athlete commitment discipline loyalty dedication selflessness leadership the ability to put in an unbelievable amount of work for an often distant goal however i always thought that the speeches i had heard in favor of athletics as a crucial part of becoming the best most fully developed person one could be as somewhat weak the sentiments were most often simply stated as fact and never fully explained that s why i was excited to read of a group that had finally gotten it right the romans in a particularly interesting section of the conspiracy of catiline sallust goes into detail about how athens reputation benefited unduly from the presence of many great writers and how the romans were regardless the superior civilization but assuredly fortune rules in all things she makes everything famous or obscure rather from caprice than in conformity with truth the exploits of the athenians as far as i can judge were very great and glorious yet something inferior to what fame has represented them but because writers of great talent flourished there the actions of the athenians are celebrated over the world as the most splendid of achievements thus the merit of those who have acted is estimated at the highest point to which illustrious intellects could exalt it in their writings but among the romans there was never any such abundance of writers for with them the most able men were the most actively employed no one exercised the mind independently of the body every man of ability chose to act rather than narrate and was more desirous that his own merits should be celebrated by others than that he himself should record theirs emphasis my own the conspiracy of catiline 8 what sallust seems to me to be saying is spot on only so much about life can be understood or appreciated through just observation and recording at some point you have to get out there and do something this is where if sallust s representation is to be believed the romans were very successful rather just sitting around in comfort and philosophizing about the state of the human soul like the athenians the romans were constantly training their bodies in addition to their minds for war they were traveling and conquering they were not content to stay at home they were insatiable of course i see the arrogance and ignorance inherent in this argument the athenians lest the romans forget had an empire of their own one that was not won by sitting around the agora and talking also this may very well be an idealized view of roman culture not taking into account the more practical and less idealized side of their position and there is an obvious need for writers and historians in every culture otherwise why would i bother writing this blog at all however these concerns must be set aside so the big picture can be seen what the romans are saying is that without the body the mind is not as strong as is could be it is debatable to what extent this is true but i would be willing to argue with anyone who says that one cannot learn invaluable life lessons on the racecourse or playing field these are lessons that could never be taught in a classroom or read in a book they are lessons that must be attained individually through struggle pain triumph and sometimes failure whether they come from the battlefield as they did for the romans or from the racecourse as they do for today s athletic warriors lessons learned from physical challenges are among if not the most important in life train your mind train your body be insatiable that is the lesson of the romans posted by mjd at 10 01 am 3 comments labels athens athletics philosophy rome sallust sunday february 11 2007 dead languages not so dead here true it seems an unlikely pairing a couple of dead languages with one of the newest hippest forms of broadcasting podcasts however the marriage is a welcome one especially as i begin studying latin for the first time this semester at haverford college s site classics podcasts you will find links to numerous audio files of spoken greek and latin many of which can easily be downloaded right into your itunes there is something novel yet thrilling about hearing cicero and virgil spoken in their original tongue and here you will find a plenty to listen to posted by mjd at 12 27 am 0 comments labels greek latin thursday january 25 2007 the persian war a battle of wits it is tempting to view the greek victory in the persian war as an achievement of superior power and fighting however this really wasn t the case the greeks were victorious because they out planned and out thought the persians taking advantage of their own knowledge of the terrain and benefiting from persians errors on the battlefield it is not up for debate who had the most obvious advantages going into the war the persian empire was the largest and most powerful the world had known there was a seemingly endless supply of human capital to fill the ranks of the persian army furthermore she enjoyed superior firepower compared to the greeks in terms of technology their ships for example were faster lighter and more maneuverable than the greeks as well as the sheer amount of firepower the greeks however had some more important intangible advantages first of all they were fighting on and for their own homeland they fought every battle knowing that a loss would bring the enemy that much closer to their own families and homes the greeks were fighting to save their own way of life additionally the greeks were fighting of their own accord because of the democratic structure of the city states the soldiers were fighting because they voted that this was the best course of action this type of motivation can be a huge factor in the face of an enemy fighting simply because their despotic ruler sitting atop his throne on a nearby hilltop tells them to however the real reason the greeks won was their ability to engage the enemy at locations best suited for a greek victory the greeks knew the terrain and they also knew their own militaristic limitations this allowed them to choose battle sites that would minimize the advantages of the enemy this was certainly the case at the battle of salamis the greeks were aware of the superiority of the persian fleet their ships were smaller and faster the greeks on the other hand were dealing with older slower less agile triremes in order to make this as little of a factor as possible they managed through a little trickery on the part of themistocles to engage the persians in the shallow bay of salamis by battling in such a shallow closed in area the speed and maneuverability of the persian fleet was neutralized as best could be hoped for they did not have to room to either get up to full speed or to take advantage of their full mobility on top of that the persians or at least the vast majority of them were unable to swim essentially once they were thrown overboard they were as good as dead so the greeks didn t necessarily have to destroy every enemy sailor just get them off their ships the greeks on the other hand practiced quick turning and ramming maneuvers in preparations for just such a battle in a smaller area their slower speed never arose as a problem as no one had the room to get to full speed therefore they were more prepared for a battle in such conditions because they chose them it is also interesting to look at the battle of thermopylae in such a light although the greeks obviously lost the battle it was only through a fortunate chance event for the persians had ephialtes not showed the persians another way around the pass at thermopylae they most likely would not have won up until that point the greeks were dominating the persians slaughtering the huge force as they funneled through the narrow pass once again the greeks aware of the fact that they were vastly outnumbered chose a location highly favorable to their smaller more elite forces the persians size became a near non factor as they had t0 squeeze through the hot gates the greeks were far more capable of picking off the persian force one chariot at a time this again is evidence of the greeks cunning in making the most of a battle situation the greeks were careful to draw the persians into battle at locations where the greeks were able to take advantage of their familiarity with the land and military forces involved for this reason it is valuable to look at the persian war not just as a battle of two great powers but also as a battle of wits posted by mjd at 11 22 am 2 comments labels persian war salamis themistolcles thermopylae friday january 12 2007 i always knew i liked wikipedia a little something of interest today s featured article on wikipedia is on alcibiades an ancient greek who i find incredibly intriguing and a website i can t get enough of doesn t get much better on another note i am coming into reading week and exam time so as you might imagine it s time to focus a little more on school work and a little less on my new pet blog posts may be a little less frequent for a bit but don t worry i m not going anywhere posted by mjd at 10 45 pm 1 comments thursday january 4 2007 antigone family vs country a fascinating debate from classical literature that rages on today is the question of who was in the right in sophocles antigone both antigone and her uncle the king of thebes creon believed that they were doing what was best antigone s burial of her brother polyneices and creon s refusal to and subsequent condemnation of his niece who was right it seems likely that even sophocles audience would have been in conflict over which character made the correct decision both were acting according to the law they believed to be superior creon believed that since polyneices was a traitor to thebes he had after all lead an army against his brother king eteocles he deserved the punishment fitting of such a traitor antigone quite to the contrary believed that family loyalty takes precedence over everything even the law of the land she therefore had no choice but to bury her brother when it comes down to it this is a story of family versus country which demands our greater loyalty sophocles makes the answer unclear both antigone and creon suffer horrible fates antigone loses her own life creon loses his niece and consequently his son and wife it is debatable who suffers more in such a situation however i think the text seems to hint that creon was in the wrong and that he was the one who suffered more when all was said and done in the end creon decides that he must free antigone that she was not wholly in the wrong he declares we must not wage a vain war with destiny deciding tis best to keep the established laws even to death s end however it is too late by the time antigone s cave is opened she has already hung herself the tragedy of her death is magnified by the fact that creon acknowledged the error of his judgment with almost enough time to save her but it was just barely too late to make things worse heamon creon s son and antigone s fiancé kills himself after finding his love hanging in the cave these two incidents alone would be enough of a horror for creon but it is not yet over eurydice the queen upon hearing of the deaths of both her son and niece quietly climbs to her room and she too commits suicide creon thus is left wholly alone at the end of the play believing he is being severely punished for his wrongful condemnation of antigone she on the other hand accepts death she has the ability to avoid it if she were to but leave her brother s body lying outside the city however she takes action knowing full well the consequences she never doubts herself as seen in her address to her fallen brother and yet i have honored thee as the wise will deem rightly antigone at least has the satisfaction of believing herself to have a death in sacrifice for her family creon on the other hand is left with nothing i know no answer can be provided with complete certainty but i am curious to see what others have to say on the topic who was in the right who does the text itself point to as being correct or at least more correct than the other posted by mjd at 12 38 am 2 comments labels antigone play sophocles theater thursday december 28 2006 wiki classical dictionary here s a good resource i recently came across the wiki classical dictionary there looks to be a wide range of info here 742 articles although i haven t looked extensively myself one problem seems to be that the wiki has not been updated since march 6 2006 i think this kind of a site could be a great source of information if it were being continuously updated and expanded give it a look and see if you don t have some information to add yourself posted by mjd at 9 25 pm 0 comments labels links monday december 25 2006 un democratic or too democratic first of all i would like to thank all who have commented on this blog and encourage more to do so this is exactly why i wanted to start classics reloaded it is easy enough to sit around by yourself coming up with ideas tossing them around your own head with no one to challenge or support you then moving on i was hoping that this would be a place for me to do more than that this will be for me a testing ground of sorts for different ideas theories etc that i may come across ideally i want this to be a conversation i am just starting off in the field of classics i know i have a lot to learn it is my hope that this blog will be a place for me to share my thoughts and receive criticisms and encouragement from you the readers that being said the most recent comments on my last two posts both on democracy in athens have really got me thinking as i read them over i realized that i do indeed need to take a closer more critical look at my own thoughts on this topic i believe that i may have been too hasty in my judgments of athenian democracy i think that i may have come out too strongly in my posts against the athenians sounding as though i was certain of the undemocratic nature of athens rather than accurately conveying the state that i was in one of questioning and doubt i believe that the events that i discussed were intriguing occurrences in a democracy and warrant a closer look i do not however claim to have the answers looking more closely at my issues with the cases of alcibiades and nicias i realize now that it is not the democracticness as you might say of athens that i should be questioning but rather perhaps the fairness or justness of the system i am still searching for the correct word here for neither of these are quite accurate the problem may not be that athens was not democratic enough but rather quite the opposite that it was too democratic with the citizens having the right and expectation to vote on quite literally everything there were no checks on the swings of public opinion if there was a particularly persuasive orator speaking against alcibiades he would b...