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december 2018 disoriented reoriented skip to content disoriented reoriented theology politics nerdiness menu and widgets about the blog smartypants stuff most popular posts 1 christians have power how will we use it 2 the radical femininity of christ 3 book review how god became king 4 opening communion for the 3 year olds 5 telling god s story not the old testament s 6 chaos creation and midterms 7 christians and the nra 8 john chrysostom and the 47 percent 9 love wins 10 keep the mithra in christmas like me like me tweets tweets by disorientedblog personal faves the 99 percent a different god poverty is the church on the wrong side immanuel moore oklahoma jed bartlet s job moment a letter to three daughters the toxic assumption of the biblical worldview sex and the single doctrine of original sin our postmodern god p o d christians and the f word did paul write these letters a psalm of lament for a boy now gone personal faves ot edition god to job humans are so overrated finding refuge in the pentateuch the time jeremiah accused god of raping him the american amos amaziah the republican the unfair god jonah the evangelist when god abuses personal faves lgbt edition what if the writers of the bible were just wrong neither male nor female slave nor free gay nor straight why chick fil a s donations are important retiring love the sinner hate the sin it s ok to be gay redeeming homosexuality why don t christians support polygamy tags 2 samuel abortion about me acts of the apostles apologetics bible blog business books children church consumerism corinthians daniel eschatology evangelicals evolution exodus faith fundamentalism genesis genocide gospel of john gospel of luke gospel of mark gospel of matthew gospels grad school hell history holidays homosexuality immigration isaiah jeremiah jesus job law liberation literalism love money music new testament old testament parenting paul pentateuch politics pop culture prayer prophets psalms race religion revelation romans science sermons sex slavery struggles suffering summit the flood theodicy theology the poor trump universalism vengeance violence war wisdom women worship violence for jesus part 1 when soldiers couldn t be christians part 2 constantine and augustine part 3 charlemagne s forced baptisms part 4 the crusades the christian case for obama part 1 against romney part 2 for obama part 3 the drone problem was mary really a virgin part 1 ground rules part 2 what paul says part 3 what mark says part 4 matthew and luke similarities and contradictions part 5 what else matthew and luke say part 6 what john says part 7 extrabiblical accounts part 8 old testament prophecy part 9 theological defenders xpart 10 searching for a better defense xpart 11 gromacki s defense xpart 12 the arbitrariness of virginity xpart 13 the history of the doctrine xpart 14 n t wright s defense xpart 15 the liberal metaphorization xpart 16 summary xpart 17 the verdict can paul be trusted on sexuality part 1 the sin of effeminacy part 2 the concept of self mastery part 3 the primacy of masculinity part 4 jewish apologetics part 5 paul s purposes what the bible gets wrong about god part 1 the problem part 2 the evidence part 3 the contradictions part 4 the evolution prophets and politics part 1 the prophets part 2 the response part 3 my response who i read the jesus blog charis rachel held evans jesus creed richard beck christian ethics bites naturalis historia variant readings larry hurtado starts with a bang pete enns jacobin nt blog homebrewed christianity damon parker ancient jew review archives july 2020 june 2020 april 2020 december 2019 september 2019 august 2019 july 2019 june 2019 april 2019 march 2019 february 2019 december 2018 november 2018 october 2018 september 2018 august 2018 july 2018 june 2018 may 2018 april 2018 february 2018 january 2018 december 2017 august 2017 october 2013 september 2013 august 2013 july 2013 june 2013 may 2013 april 2013 march 2013 february 2013 january 2013 december 2012 november 2012 october 2012 september 2012 august 2012 july 2012 june 2012 may 2012 april 2012 march 2012 february 2012 january 2012 december 2011 november 2011 october 2011 september 2011 august 2011 july 2011 month december 2018 the radical incarnation it s the late 100s ce a century has passed since roman troops have destroyed the jerusalem temple and crushed the jewish revolt unwittingly scattering a sect of jews who followed an itinerant preacher whom the romans had crucified some decades earlier over the decades that sect had separated from its parent faith its followers were known perhaps derogatorily as christians claiming the crucified preacher they followed had in fact risen from the dead and was the son of god if not actually god in some way subject to occasional persecution by various local officials in the roman empire the christian movement nevertheless had grown to a size and influence that it reached the notice of a greco roman philosopher named celsus we know very little about celsus except that around this time before the end of the second century he felt compelled to respond to the christian claims the earliest known attack on christianity called the true discourse of celsus the epicurean his work is only known insofar as it s quoted by the famed bishop of alexandria origen in his apologetic work contra celsus written around 247 in his the interpretation of the new testament in greco roman paganism hendrickson 2000 john granger cook writes celsus was something of a social conservative who viewed christianity as a departure from everything that was ancient and true in the hellenistic tradition p 17 to the extent origen fairly caricatures celsus argument and to his credit he does seem to quote celsus at length without apparent modification though you can t really be sure about that sort of thing what jumps out at me especially in this season is how much celsus hated the notion of the incarnation the bulk of celsus argument against christianity could be boiled down to just one sentence gods don t do that continue reading the radical incarnation posted on december 17 2018 categories book reports history tags books celsus christmas history jesus origen of alexandria suffering 1 comment on the radical incarnation create a free website or blog at wordpress com subscribe subscribed disoriented reoriented join 179 other subscribers sign me up already have a wordpress com account log in now privacy disoriented reoriented subscribe subscribed sign up log in report this content view site in reader manage subscriptions collapse this bar design a site like this with wordpress com get started