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from later but that s the shirt and that s the iceiceice thurs dec 10 ehome go first against liquid and before the match they re just chilling half of them are watching random chinese streams and the chat there s some girl streamer that some of them are currently particularly infatuated with kaka is practicing his wisp and 71 points at him and says professional wisp hah they see old chicken s pose on the bts stream and all laugh at him for a minute while lanm and cty run down to imitate the pose on the camera downstairs by borrowing tiffany s glasses for the task teaching moments ehome lose and afterwards lanm is immediately loading up the replay and gathering his players around him to debrief pointing out everything he sees as the other players listen come here and watch the replay is the command and the rest of them obediently gather around their captain vg went shopping in the day because iceiceice made his team promise to go shopping with him if they won on the previous day fenrir has a gengar t shirt on and i say that s my favorite pokemon and he says hey me too the rest of them lounge around except for burning who is apparently shopping some more on his own shopping addict fy and i play some pro evo soccer but evidently according to fy benzema is imba and after two games fy calls it quits in the face of laughter from their manager jal who finds it funny seeing fy lose another summit more pro evo later there is an iceiceice cast in which he pretends to be muted for the first minutes but isn t actually muted heh fri dec 11 on the way to the house this morning we re riding with vg they are discussing their respective ages with burning wondering if he should be considered 27 or 28 my mom calls me and always tells me i m 28 now he says somewhat resignedly that s kind of old especially in esports but i m thinking that these guys are all mostly younger than i am anyway so what are they complaining about i think honestly age doesn t and shouldn t really matter as much in dota as an entire generation of players are growing older and perhaps finally realizing that they needn t force themselves to retire we ended ti5 without nearly any premature retirement announcements after all we may see a lot of these players going on into their 30s captain lanm after their match against dc ehome present lanm for the post match interview on the couch after that there s another interview with thescore esports and it s once again lanm i comment that he sure does get interviewed a lot especially on this team compared to when he was on dk it s a lot more interviewing but his role in both teams has always been pivotal it s just that with ehome he is much more visible because he s surrounded by newer players that are still learning to come into their own in the scene late afternoon and some of the vg guys want a snack so grace makes them some chicken nuggets in the oven fenrir eats by his own admittance probably 50 of the entire tray of chicken nuggets and announces that he is the chicken killer because o he loves eating chicken at night it s the gang beasts tournament which was pretty hilarious even though it had little to do with any of the other happenings at ts4 tiffany wins it all in the end and a few of us do in fact go to in n out afterwards sat dec 12 kaka wonders how much a house around la costs and 71 says after you move here i ll come visit you and i ll tell you to come pick me up at the airport but you have to come in a helicopter cuz i don t wanna be seeing any plain old car picking me up i wonder aloud if kaka has a rich family or something but it remains unclear whether or not he does as at first he strongly denies it but then later thinks that spending 50 euros on a single cigar isn t necessarily expensive at all i m no expert in modern cigar pricing but i think that s kind of a premium level price for one or maybe it s esports inflation everyone in the scene is making a lot nowadays the ehome guys are pretty casually getting themselves into the atmosphere of their big match against og or rather it would seem the match isn t that much more important to them than an average match after all lanm has said that they still need to grow a lot as a team and their newer guys are still undergoing that process according to their coach he already briefed them on what they needed to know last night and so today he isn t going to be doing anything additional a pretty large contrast with the high pressure world of an international for example the king of fighters they re playing classic king of fighters lanm vs eleven but lanm loses pretty much every single game yet they continue playing for an hour seeing a lycan in the liquid vs vp matchup cty pipes up that his lycan would be most excellent in this situation claiming that he d build blink dagger and vladmirs to which the rest of his team laughs at him heartily rtz and 71 chat upstairs on the balcony rtz says why s cty so crazy control your players specifically mentioning cty s ta in an earlier game and 71 laughs and says it s okay he just wants to play aggressive mostly later in the evening after ehome has lost to og iceiceice and fenrir show up and seeing some ehome guys in the kitchen iceiceice quickly points and laughs at 71 71 feigns outrage but iceiceice points out that ehome had done the same to vg when they had lost in frankfurt and soon the next match is underway yes hello everyone chatters animatedly while watching the vp og matchup at one point fenrir is talking about iceiceice s night stalker from the day before one minute after the game starts we hear from his part of the room oi i can t play anymore help and 71 points out that every time they put iceiceice solo against universe he gets owned and furthermore laughs at vg s decision to put a night stalker solo against a brood at all upstairs the rest of ehome are on practice pcs just hanging out again with lanm feverishly practicing king of fighters alone while eleven has been downstairs watching the games with us observing the two of them playing king of fighters again later lanm still loses far more than he wins but his enthusiasm remains throughout at night back at the hotel we re going again to get in n out and ehome s 71 and lanm decide to come along too after hearing that more in n out in n out is a california classic and staple of the local scene while waiting for 71 to get ready lanm is playing some hearthstone on his phone he plays it very casually he says and he s running what he calls an unorthodox deck so if he loses it doesn t matter and if he wins then it s funny true to his attitude towards the game when 71 is ready we leave the hotel right away and thus lanm loses connection to the hotel wifi and disconnects from his current hearthstone match without a worry about ranking or record on the way to during the meal and then on the way back the two of them are chattering about dota and their team these two are the masters and veterans of the team by far and there s a steady strategic strand to their conversations as they flutter from one topic to another never straying far from how everything relates back to their team s performances and status sun dec 13 it s the last day of the tournament and by the time i ve found a spot in the house to comfortably watch the first series vg are already one game down before long they re two games down and thus out and so they head out to the back yard behind the house where they spend an hour and a half wanderingly discussing and debating what went wrong while fy kicks a soccer ball around next to them fy i join him for a bit here and there but mostly it s to enjoy the california sunshine and get some fresh air then vg want to leave the house some want to go back to the hotel others i hear are going to the stores or the casino or something or other iceiceice is almost as always the only one of them to stay behind so we hang out for a while in kitchen bullshitting about this and that here and there when vp finally loses a game ice remarks vp s on cooldown now and unfortunately for them their cd ended up being really long and the night ended again with eg taking the title iceiceice casts one of the games but not before he tries to say that he ll only cast if i cast which came after he said that he would solo cast in both chinese and english a much better idea the night at the house winds down gradually but happily iceiceice and i play some gangbeasts at some point where we team up against the two other players and basically wreck them which was fun because for once i wasn t going against everyone else in the game and then someone turned off the fun stream so sorry stream i hope you guys had some fun when the stream was actually active which i think it got more active as the week went on enjoying the end in the late evening it pours down rain rather uncharacteristically aggressively for southern california and after the rain stops we re ready to head back to the hotel i make a round around the house to say my thanks and goodbyes kuroky wonders if i ll be at the shanghai major to which i reply maybe he goes come on man don t give me maybe i ask him if he ll be there and he s like maybe so i point out that maybe is a good word and he seems to agree and he and i and a few others chat for a few minutes before i run off elsewhere in the house back at the hotel lanm is enlisting my help to make a late evening trip to the store to help him find things he needs to buy for his new baby and well apart from my ability to read english labels i m far less well versed than he is in baby related things so we spend a while looking for stuff at the store but mostly get everything that he needs on the walk back he looks up and seems surprised are those stars i haven t seen those for years in china thus the conversation lands for a while on the topic of air quality in china or the complete lack of any sort of quality thereof lanm buying stuff for his kid afterwards the topic changes wow i think a chinese team hasn t won a lan since d2l season 5 i believe he s right or close to it lanm goes on but time eventually changes things so after a long enough time even the best can become the worst back at the hotel we bid our good nights and thus another summit comes to an end mon dec 14 ehome and vg are scheduled to leave the hotel at 8 30 in the morning to head to lax for their flights so we go down to the lobby around that time to send them off and make sure everything goes smoothly for them goodbyes are exchanged everyone says see you in shanghai even though i don t know if i m going to shanghai or not and it s a long ways away anyway summit 4 was undeniably a success amazingly well run and overall just a smooth experience as burning says it s an iconic tournament at this point the fun filled foil to ti and the majors in some ways but in production value and competition it doesn t lose out at all all in all i have to once again send my thanks and appreciation to everyone at the event that made it happen every summit is the best yet but somehow you guys manage to keep upping the standard so thank you to everyone at bts for putting on another great show and thanks for having me at these events thanks for reading follow dotaland on twitter http twitter com dotaland posted in chinese dota competitions insight tagged 71 burning cty ehome fenrir iceiceice lanm vg 2 comments august 21 2015 ehome coach 71 s thoughts on the majors and coaches in dota the original chinese version of his thoughts were sent to me via email a chinese version has also been published here http dota2 replays net news page 20150810 1949948 html ti is a a hallowed stage and it is always the greatest event in each year the players are treated like gods spectators enjoy a live experience bordering on nba quality as a coach it is very difficult to be able to say anything that influences the game s balance changes or to have input in just exactly how transfer regulations and substitute player rules are set indeed it s only now the 4th time i ve been at a ti that i ve finally gotten an international jacket that has my id on it and gotten a chance for a collective media interview and unfortunately because of the first question i ended up spending 3 minutes or more sobbing like a criminal being interrogated so even though the coach position isn t seen as that important with valve and some clubs i still want to say some things and hopefully connect with those that agree with us as coaches first of all you should know that coaches can have a very large amount of work both in and out of the game a coach in many cases also acts as a team s team lead and statistician he needs every player to show up to practice on time show up to matches on time and hopes that the players can understand the style you ve set for them creative drafts offensive tactics defensive must knows etc etc etc our work can allow matches to become smoother more pleasing to watch in some ways a game can be a fight between two coaches but you must understand in reality during a game we as coaches have no idea how the players are communicating inside the booth where problems may arise whether it s a mistake of the team in reading a situation or lack of detail from an individual i can only go off experiences collected from practices and make guesses constructing the scenarios in my head for every one of ehome s matches at ti our team lead and i would sit backstage next to the players entrance to the stage and watch on a screen there one printout map to record warding positions another piece of paper to write down the opposition s weaknesses and the types of adjustments they make one more to record our own mistakes and one last one with my thoughts on how i want us to adjust our style and draft at ti there are only five minutes between games during a match this includes the time given to use the restroom so i have to stand next to the entrance and await the players and shout over the live venue noise in order to relay the information i have recorded on the four pieces of paper during the previous game additionally i must control my speech tempo and emotions i cannot give them pressure when they ve just lost or allow them to loosen up if they ve just won during these five minutes valve s staff will also remind me to not touch the players at all as a rule i m unclear on what other teams coaches do as their work because the two teams use different entrances but i truly feel that in all this the amount that i can help the team is much too little how much i d hoped that at that moment icefrog would walk through that corridor and see the imagery of that scene see the look on my face when josh told me that it might be best to hide those four pieces of paper to prevent them being inadvertently filmed from 2003 when i first began coaching in counterstrike to today it s been 12 years ti3 i took a break for the ace alliance many people will only say that in 2010 when ehome won eswc we had s...