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lis the institutes justinian is fanfared with roman titles imperator caesar flavius justinianus semper augustus emperor and caesar flavius justinian forever augustus and speaks of himself as princeps romanus roughly head of the roman state as long as this is borne in mind there may be no harm in thinking of him in a broader perspective as byzantine and anyway constantinopolitan is unspeakable wikiain talk 03 33 20 november 2010 utc reply sub roman edit latest comment 18 years ago 2 comments 2 people in discussion people who haven t read any history seem to have such a problem over this descriptive term it was confidently deleted here where it is currently being used to modify odoacer s kingdom suggestive of odoacer s struggle to keep up roman appearances sub roman is such a clear signifier do people think it means sub human or something i m hornswoggled wetman talk 20 39 25 december 2007 utc reply very strange statement in theodorich s kingdom roman law was respected nothing less than in odoacer s and it was finally defeated by byzantines so we can speak of vanishing of roman law in italy only after 727 or larer when italy secessed from byzantine empire but not in whole parts of italy remained under byzantines at least until lombard invasion in the mid 8th century so roman law could be in oblivion only between mid 8th century and mid 11th century not so long time 79 111 181 199 talk 18 07 19 july 2008 utc reply correct name corpus iuris civilis edit latest comment 17 years ago 3 comments 3 people in discussion why is it called corpus juris civilis i thought in latin j did not exist gryffindor 20 30 19 october 2008 utc reply i think juris should be changed to iuris preceding unsigned comment added by twodogsstuck talk contribs 04 03 31 january 2009 utc reply one form is not necessarily more correct than the other it s just a matter of spelling convention in classical latin the sound j did exist but it was represented by the letter i differentiation between the letters i and j only occurred in the middle ages since the name corpus juris civilis was coined in the 16th century there is no reason to use classical spelling conventions here this could in fact be argued anachronistic because unlike classical proper names historically this title was never spelled that way iblardi talk 11 15 31 january 2009 utc reply why is scots law based upon roman law edit latest comment 17 years ago 1 comment 1 person in discussion a discussion on the origins of the scottish legal system is taking place at wikiproject scotland editors of this article may be able to throw light on the topic to contribute to the discussion please click here references per wp verify would be especially welcome thank you in advance mais oui talk 08 07 9 february 2009 utc reply should the time period be characterized as the middle ages or late antiquity edit latest comment 15 years ago 2 comments 2 people in discussion the article states justinian gave orders to collect legal materials of various kinds into several new codes spurred on by the revival of interest in the study of roman law in the middle ages while it may be technically correct to refer to this period as early medieval most people would think of the sixth century as being more late antiquity indeed the characterization late antiquity seems especially appropriate for the corpus juris civilis because it represents the final development of a roman institution rather than the beginning of what would become a medieval institution indeed the cjc was essentially forgotten in western europe during the early middle ages it was western europe s rediscovery of the cjc at the end of the 11th century beginning of the 12th century that gave rise to the cjc s status as the primary source of law in modern continental europe a hiatus that suggests the cjc s origin should be understood more as late roman than as early medieval it has even been commented that the timing of the discovery of the cjc is one reason why the common law system arose in england while the civil law system took root in continental europe england had to fashion a new legal system following the norman conquest of 1066 and this was done on the basis of traditional law because there was no other source of law available less than a century later as continental european economic institutions were becoming more complex and the cjc was being rediscovered the cjc began to be adopted on the continent through the influence of universities because it offered a set of rules appropriate for increasingly complex market economies which had not existed in europe for centuries england did not join in this adoption largely because england had just created a new legal system and was still in the process of adapting its newly developed legal institutions to the changing conditions of the time thus the common law system may be seen as medieval in origin while the civil law system may be seen as roman in origin or at least in inspiration since the cjc represents the end of roman law rather than the beginning of medieval law it may be more appropriate to describe its time period as that of late antiquity bob99 talk 14 00 7 april 2010 utc reply i agree bob99 my colleagues specialising in history of this period who refer to themselves nicely as late antiques certainly classify the period as late antiquity distinct from later periods that are characterised as middle ages and medieval aside from labels as you say the medieval revival of interest is totally separate from justinian s work but the article seriously confuses the whole cjc cic with the part of it the code codex that is a collection of extracts from legislation and in effect an update of the theodosian code codex theodosiani as i expect you will know the whole cjc cic consists of the code in its second edition the digest digesta which is a collection of extracts from juristic writings the institutes institutiones which is are an introductory textbook and a bit more and the novels novellae which are later laws of justinian not collected by him but i think intended by him to be incorporated in a further edition of the code wikiain talk 01 20 20 november 2010 utc reply manuscripts preservation edit latest comment 15 years ago 2 comments 2 people in discussion a section on the existing manuscripts their quality and the general question of how well the text has been preserved would be very useful as for most texts from before the printing age so if you know about this i don t please add something 85 179 173 180 talk 11 18 21 april 2010 utc reply see littera florentina there are at least four levels of enquiry to pursue interdependently condition of manuscripts accuracy of transcription editions and prospects thereof and accuracy of translation a good starting point is roman law resources wikiain talk 04 00 20 november 2010 utc reply legislation about religion edit latest comment 13 years ago 2 comments 2 people in discussion on 9 december 20110 user 98 117 124 36 changed uniting church and state to creating a pseudo theocracy i have reverted this as said with necessary brevity casting more shadow than light how justinian s regime is to be characterised is much debated it used to be termed caesaro papism but that has fallen out of use as imprecise and perhaps anachronistic in both elements uniting too is vague since the association between church and state was through the emperor as head of both rather than an institutional combination governors and bishops had their distinct spheres it can also be questioned whether this structure was achieved by justinian s laws or only registered in them as something already in existence one has at least to distinguish earlier laws that are recorded in the code from those that had been enacted by justinian himself i would leave uniting church and state as begging questions but not mortgaging them to any particular answer answers might be introduced later in the section or linked to if they are provided elsewhere wikiain talk 23 09 9 december 2010 utc reply uniting church and state is inaccurate and stating that justinian was the head of both the state and the church is simply untrue in eastern orthodoxy there is no head of the church the only ones with authority are the bishops of the church eastern emperors were often considered collaborators and co workers of the christian church but not once were they given a papal like status as evident by the temporal excommunication of emperor theodosius by pope bishop ambrosius and emperor leo the isaurian s iconoclastic views that were firmly rejected by most of the church s bishops furthermore except for a few exceptional cases bishops never held political office and emperors never held the title pontifex maximus justinian never was a bishop much less a head of the church in the byzantine empire the state and the church collaborated with each other but they weren t ruled by one and the same authority so byzantium wasn t exactly a theocracy emperors based their policy on christianity at lot but they weren t authorities of the christian church and they had no say in terms of religious doctrine or if they did their word wasn t final since it had to be approved by the church bishops byzantium was a rather secular religious hybrid preceding unsigned comment added by 213 233 93 157 talk 10 32 21 june 2013 utc reply codex repetitae praelectionis edit latest comment 15 years ago 2 comments 2 people in discussion why does the above named re working of the code which came into force in 534 by the constitutio cordi not feature in this article preceding unsigned comment added by 94 173 31 167 talk 13 22 21 january 2011 utc reply i ve now done that in the course of working toward this being an article that focuses on the cic as a whole to be supported by separate articles on each of the four parts two of which already exist please sign your comments so that we can discuss more effectively wikiain talk 00 05 22 january 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edit corpus iuris civilis complete edit corpus iuris civilis mommsen and krueger edition photographically reproduced corpus iuris civilis lion hugues de la porte 1558 1560 photographically reproduced digestum vetus infortiatum digestum novum codex volumen parvum the roman law library including corpus iuris civilis mommsen and krueger edition digitised institutiones codex and digesta edit latin law library text edition unstated digitised english translations edit corpus iuris civilis complete edit the civil law english translation from latin editions earlier than that of mommsen and krueger by s p scott 1932 codex edit the justinian code in s p scott s translation see previous digitised information on the justinian code and its manuscript tradition on the bibliotheca legum regni francorum manuscripta website a database on carolingian secular law texts karl ubl cologne university germany bruce w frier ed 2016 the codex of justinian a new annotated translation with parallel latin and 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