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talk morality wikipedia jump to content main menu main menu move to sidebar hide navigation main page contents current events random article about wikipedia contact us contribute help learn to edit community portal recent changes upload file special pages search search appearance donate create account log in personal tools donate create account log in contents move to sidebar hide top 1 towards some objections 1 comment 2 cisero has no connection to morality 1 comment 3 additional sources 2 comments toggle the table of contents talk morality add languages page contents not supported in other languages add topic article talk english read edit view history tools tools move to sidebar hide actions read edit add topic view history general what links here related changes upload file permanent link page information get shortened url switch to legacy parser print export download as pdf printable version in other projects appearance move to sidebar hide from wikipedia the free encyclopedia latest comment 21 days ago by schazjmd in topic additional sources this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the morality article this is not a forum for general discussion of the subject of the article add new text under old text new to wikipedia welcome learn to edit get help start a new topic assume good faith be polite and avoid personal attacks be welcoming to newcomers seek dispute resolution if needed article policies neutral point of view no original research verifiability find sources google books news scholar free images wp refs fens jstor twl archives index 1 2 auto archiving period 3 months this level 3 vital article is rated c class on wikipedia s content assessment scale it is of interest to the following wikiprojects psychology mid importance psychology portal this article is within the scope of wikiproject psychology a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of psychology on wikipedia if you would like to participate please visit the project page where 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americas include sources like confucius analects the bhagavad gita and contemporary non western ethicists on the ethics section the article defines both descriptive and normative morality but then devotes nearly all its length to descriptive morality how people do behave evolution cultural differences neuroscience normative questions what actually is right or wrong are barely addressed beyond the short realism and anti realism section add a substantive normative section discussing major normative theories consequentialism deontology virtue ethics with examples and explain how normative ethics differs from descriptive moral anthropology on the religion section since partly removed the religion section opens with religion and morality are not synonymous and disproportionately quotes critics blackburn anderson hume paul zuckerman who highlight negative aspects of religious morality defenses of religious morality are relegated to footnotes present positive arguments for religion as a source of moral knowledge e g divine command theory virtue ethics in religious traditions and balance empirical findings note that meta analyses show a moderate deterrent effect of religion on crime these are thought provoking and a welcome springboard for further discussion and i thank for them in my opinion at the outset any author of this article is presented with a conundrum how to give forth a separate article on morality presupposing there already exists a complex article on ethics a term that it is often confused for or deliberately synonymized with one possible avenue of providing two distinct articles on these topics is to comprehend morality as an observable social and psychological phenomenon while tractating ethics as a philosophical study thereof this does allow two articles of wildly differing scopes but also has the consequence of keeping the article on morality highly physicalist such a limitation notwithstanding it is nonetheless not a feature of lacking a geographical universality per se rather simply a viewpoint one as per the succinct discussion of ethics which however has to occur in this article it does mention both normative and descriptive ethics but given the above it is inevitable that the rest of the article may be perceived as being informed by the latter approach on the topic of religion it does at a cursory look seem difficult to distinguish religion from other evolutionary processes described and thus deploy any needlessly negative assessments thereof save for any intentional moralizing basicwriting talk 01 20 30 august 2026 utc reply cisero has no connection to morality edit latest comment 1 month ago 1 comment 1 person in discussion proposed wikipedia update etymology the english word morality does not originate in roman moral philosophy the latin adjective moralis was coined by cicero as a translation of greek ēthikos meaning pertaining to character habit or custom and was used in that sense throughout classical latin it did not refer to moral right and wrong moral obligation or any universal moral law the first term that clearly denotes the modern concept of morality is moralitas which appears in medieval latin in the 12th 13th centuries within christian theological and scholastic contexts medieval writers used moralitas moral doctrine alongside moralis pertaining to manners indicating that moralitas was a new word for a new conceptual category from moralitas the term passed into old french as moralité and then into middle english in the late 14th century the earliest recorded english use of moral appears in john gower s confessio amantis c 1386 1390 predating chaucer the broader sense of a system of ethical duties develops in english during the mid 15th century although moralis is etymologically related to latin mos custom this linguistic derivation does not imply that the concept designated by the later word existed in the earlier period 2026 46935 15 talk 03 22 30 august 2026 utc reply additional sources edit latest comment 21 days ago 2 comments 2 people in discussion i feel as though a lot of the bias in this article towards more western view points could be resolved by making sure to include more diverse sources the article disuses morality abstractly and then in relation to a lot of western philosophy but never really expands into what exactly morality can look like in different regions i also feel as though the article could discuss the topic of a lack of morality more in depth editorc22 talk 00 31 13 september 2026 utc reply context the above comment is an article evaluation by a student editor as part of their course schazjmd talk 11 56 13 september 2026 utc reply retrieved from https en wikipedia org w index php title talk morality oldid 1374672495 categories c class level 3 vital articles wikipedia level 3 vital articles in philosophy and religion c class vital articles in philosophy and religion c class psychology articles mid importance psychology articles wikiproject 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