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south africa is not one of them moreoever also countries such as kazakhstan ukraine and belarus possessed nuclear weapons after the soviet union fell apart but gave them up as independent nations they would have to be excluded as well south africa should not be excluded as they have actually developed nuclear weapons themselves albeit with help and may in the future develop more nuclear weapons if politics dictates countries such as belarus and kazakhstan only inhertited nuclear weapons from the soviet union they didn t develop those weapons themselves as states and currently cannot develop nuclear weapons if they wanted to sefog 15 50 10 october 2007 utc reply i think they ought to be excluded from the category nuclear weapons states if only because after going to a lot of trouble to surrepitiously develop nuclear weapons they went to a lot of trouble to divest themselves of them that is a decision that should be respected and reflected in the list loupgarous 09 28 21 june 2009 utc nuclear armed states united states russia united kingdom france china india israel pakistan north korea south africa no longer possesses nuclear weapons nuclear armed states united states russia united kingdom france china india israel pakistan north korea south africa i think that south africa should be included in this template but there should be some recognition that is different than the other states on the list this was done begining with this 23 november 2007 edit and ending with this 24 march 2009 edit on the left i have included two versions of a portion of the template that differentiate south africa the first template uses a symbol footnote and the second the version used for 16 months uses a pair of parentheses 75 69 0 58 talk 19 00 12 august 2009 utc reply spacing edit latest comment 19 years ago 1 comment 1 person in discussion this template doesn t seem to end correctly see user mrzaius sandbox templates using the following code this template throws off the spacing of other infoboxes that follow immediately afterwards ideas on a quick fix mrzaius talk 07 03 15 april 2007 utc reply israel edit latest comment 16 years ago 3 comments 3 people in discussion if no one minds i m going to change the israel link from israel and weapons of mass destruction nuclear weapons to the newly created nuclear weapons and israel as this seems to be the precedent joshdboz 21 23 1 july 2007 utc reply ok i think that in order to keep wikipedia impartial israel should not be included in the first nuclear states box israel has not stated that it has nuclear weapons the other residents of the box have and so it would perhaps be speculative to suggest otherwise it could also perhaps simply be italicized or suffixed with disputed ezsandler preceding unsigned comment added by ezsandler talk contribs 21 14 22 june 2009 utc reply israel definitely should be included as a nuclear state no serious doubt exists among authorities on nuclear weapons proliferation that israel joined the nuclear weapons club sometime in the late 1960s that they choose opacity their term in refusing to acknowledge or deny their nuclear weapons status is immaterial evidence exists ranging from first hand accounts of former employees at their plutonium production facility at dimona to detection by vela and other dsp satellites and radiological studies after one of their tests in the south atlantic that israel has nuclear weapons and has tested them loupgarous talk 00 15 15 march 2010 utc reply states versus countries edit latest comment 16 years ago 5 comments 3 people in discussion i would like to discuss the term states versus countries a recent revert of an edit of mine for clarification of detail by http en wikipedia org wiki user night_gyr has made me question the use of the term states are russia us france india pakistan etc not countries if you were referring to individual states within the united states of america or the union of soviet socialist republics then i would have left the text as is however i would like some clarification on this what does everyone else think if there is a consensus either way i will adjust the text accordingly read write services 23 37 8 july 2007 utc reply okay i clarified the meaning by some research the correct term is nuclear weapons states read write services 00 04 9 july 2007 utc reply countries has a sloppier definition states is concise widely understood and pretty standard night gyr talk oy 06 09 9 july 2007 utc reply thank you the new term is better read write services 06 11 9 july 2007 utc reply not to mention that the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland is a state and a nuclear weapons state which encompasses three countries and six counties of another country just thought i d throw that in loupgarous talk 00 18 15 march 2010 utc reply north korea edit latest comment 17 years ago 1 comment 1 person in discussion someone just edited the link to the article on north korea s nuclear weapons to have it say north korea does not have nuclear weapons before you edit again please see north korea and weapons of mass destruction north korea has itself stated to have nuclear weapons and there are indications that they indeed have nukes stefan kruithof talk 21 09 21 january 2009 utc 124 51 199 58 talk 01 51 10 may 2011 utc but it is wrong because south korea is giving money to north korea to help its people who are starving to death but they don t help their people and instead make nuclear weapons with the money given reply too cluttered edit latest comment 17 years ago 2 comments 1 person in discussion sorry this is too cluttered and serves no purpose templates are not substitutes for categories we don t need separate template links to first strike second strike fallout shelter blast shelter etc there needs to be some overarching thinking about the organization or else it just becomes a list of purposeless links i got rid of the endlessly growing sections added civil defense and nuclear terrorism to the main group but the other stuff are clearly just subcategories of civil defense and subcategories of war strategy 98 217 14 211 talk 02 16 5 march 2009 utc reply i notice that a few hours after i went over this grapetrau reverted with only info highly relevant as the explanation which is really not the issue the question is not relevancy but whether it makes any sense to have an endlessly increasing box for articles that are quite peripheral articles that are really just sub topics to bigger issues a fact clearly indicated by the way they are segregated on the box in the first place i have since reverted it and in my comment attempted to make it clear that this should be discussed here 98 217 14 211 talk 02 36 11 march 2009 utc reply rearrange order of states edit latest comment 17 years ago 1 comment 1 person in discussion the order of the states with nuclear weapons is a little confused it looks like they are organized by year of the first test by each country this has problems because south africa and israel might or might not have ever conducted a test if the states are organized by weapon development as uncertain as that is given the secrecy involved then israel might be before india as might south africa nuclear armed states china france india israel north korea pakistan russia south africa united kingdom united states i suggest that instead the states be organized alphabetically which would be reasonable and clear i have included a portion of the template showing what i think could be done 75 69 0 58 talk 19 51 12 august 2009 utc reply protect edit latest comment 15 years ago 2 comments 2 people in discussion this template is used on a number of pages and 99 of all edits made to it are vandalism i don t anticipate needing to update this regularly maybe we should protect it mr 98 talk 15 23 20 december 2010 utc reply just reverted some more of it i agree with you mottenen talk 18 57 3 march 2011 utc reply edit request from ronaldo799 19 march 2011 edit latest comment 15 years ago 2 comments 2 people in discussion edit semi protected besides the nuclear armed nations listed in the page there is iran although iran is definitely not an universally approved nuclear nation i thought it would be appropriate to include it because i have found north korea in the list when north korea is also an unapproved nuclear state ronaldo799 talk 12 44 19 march 2011 utc reply iran is not a nuclear armed state nobody not even the united states thinks iran has developed a nuclear weapon they are accused of trying to develop one but that s not the same thing north korea on the other hand not only admits to having nuclear weapons but has carried out two nuclear tests hut 8 5 16 10 19 march 2011 utc reply edit request from 213 246 82 177 1 june 2011 edit latest comment 15 years ago 2 comments 2 people in discussion this edit request has been answered set the answered parameter to no to reactivate your request converted the template into the sidebar opposite not least to make dots and title more visible nuclear weapons history warfare arms race design testing effects delivery espionage proliferation arsenals terrorism anti nuclear opposition nuclear armed states current united states russia united kingdom france china india israel pakistan north korea former south africa v t e 213 246 82 177 talk 23 43 1 june 2011 utc reply not done please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the edit semi protected template ganeshbhakt talk 14 21 3 june 2011 utc reply edit request from woknam66 11 january 2012 edit latest comment 14 years ago 4 comments 2 people in discussion resolved this edit request has been answered set the answered parameter to no to reactivate your request anti nuclear opposition should be changed to nuclear opposition anti nuclear opposition is a double negative so it basically means nuclear appreciation woknam66 talk james bond 23 28 11 january 2012 utc reply what s being opposed is clear so opposition is all that s needed i ve edited the template accordingly and changed the target from history of the anti nuclear movement to anti nuclear movement thanks adrian j hunter talk contribs 14 50 12 january 2012 utc reply by the way as an established editor you re able and welcome to make changes like this yourself edit semi protected is mainly for unregistered or newly registered editors adrian j hunter talk contribs 14 55 12 january 2012 utc reply i know i could have just done it myself but i was afraid there might have been a discussion in the past that decided to call it anti nuclear opposition i mainly just wanted to get another person s opinion woknam66 talk james bond 16 44 12 january 2012 utc reply edit request on 21 april 2012 edit latest comment 14 years ago 3 comments 3 people in discussion this edit request has been answered set the answered parameter to no to reactivate your request 41 220 69 16 talk 19 34 21 april 2012 utc reply what change are you requesting hut 8 5 19 53 21 april 2012 utc reply not done per above mabdul 17 13 24 april 2012 utc reply semi protected edit request on 8 january 2016 edit latest comment 10 years ago 1 comment 1 person in discussion this edit request has been answered set the answered parameter to no to reactivate your request the moon is made of cheese 104 129 204 80 talk 17 17 8 january 2016 utc reply canada and other nato nuclear sharing states edit latest comment 8 years ago 2 comments 2 people in discussion i ve removed canada from the template which was added last month firstly there was no consensus even discussed to add it secondly canada was not a nuclear weapons state it was part of the nato nuclear weapon sharing program if we decide canada is former nuclear state then we need to add belgium germany the netherlands italy and turkey to the list of current nuclear states and then add canada and greece to former nuclear states you can t have it both ways kylesenior talk 13 01 23 july 2018 utc reply i think we could reasonably include the nuclear weapons sharing states in a separate section hut 8 5 17 20 23 july 2018 utc reply semi protected edit request on 1 december 2025 edit latest comment 9 months ago 4 comments 2 people in discussion this edit request has been answered set the answered parameter to no to reactivate your request insert a newline before former in nuclear armed states so that the sections linebreak correctly 2025 31845 75 talk 22 55 1 december 2025 utc reply not done it s not clear what changes you want to be made please mention the specific changes in a change x to y format and provide a reliable source if appropriate not jamestack ️ 23 08 1 december 2025 utc reply change you may need to look in the source code for this comment for it to be clear content2 npt recognized united states russia united kingdom france china others india israel undeclared pakistan north korea former south africa belarus kazakhstan ukraine to content2 npt recognized united states russia united kingdom france china others india israel undeclared pakistan north korea former south africa belarus kazakhstan ukraine specifically in the source code there should be an extra line break between nuclear weapons of china china and others br india and weapons of mass destruction india 2025 31845 75 talk 13 24 3 december 2025 utc reply ah this is really hard to explain in comments because of how the formatting of the comment works and the nowiki tags are not being a tremendous help here ok let me try again change heading2 list of states with nuclear weapons nuclear armed states content2 treaty on the non proliferation of nuclear weapons npt recognized br nuclear weapons of the united states united states russia and weapons of mass destruction russia nuclear weapons of the united kingdom united kingdom france and weapons of mass destruction france nuclear weapons of china china others br india and weapons of mass destruction india nuclear weapons and israel israel smaller undeclared pakistan and weapons of mass destruction pakistan north korea and weapons of mass destruction north korea former br south africa and weapons of mass destruction south africa list of states with nuclear weapons former soviet republics belarus kazakhstan and weapons of mass destruction kazakhstan nuclear weapons and ukraine ukraine noinclude to heading2 list of states with nuclear weapons nuclear armed states content2 treaty on the non proliferation of nuclear weapons npt recognized br nuclear weapons of the united states united states russia and weapons of mass destruction russia nuclear weapons of the united kingdom united kingdom france and weapons of mass destruction france nuclear weapons of china china others br india and weapons of mass destruction india nuclear weapons and israel israel smaller undeclared pakistan and weapons of mass destruction pakistan north korea and weapons of mass destruction north korea former br south africa and weapons of mass destruction south africa list of states 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