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sted by the community to answer your questions 1 yes definitely 2 dreamyshade has been building https projo toolforge org review to identify high priority articles for wp npp reviewers another opportunity for collaboration or sharing ideas claudinechionh she her talk email 00 51 11 september 2026 utc reply yes thank you claudine the projo unreviewed article priority ranking tool which is new and still in development still janky reflects my understanding of how to prioritize articles that need editor help in general based on factors including ctops blps reference need page views orphan status and cleanup tags such as ai generated coi and pov the page contains a table of all the factors it s focused on supporting new pages patrollers because that is the most urgent work that i know of right now with the giant backlog and constant influx of coi upe and llm generated articles i m adding more factors based on data i can derive from categories and other elements in the replica database i d love to have access to apis for predicted percentage of llm generated content and predicted numbers of verified partially verified failed verification citations i use alaexis source verifier a lot especially for articles for creation review new pages patrol and ai cleanup tasks i find it very helpful especially on articles that are tagged as likely ai generated or that i suspect are ai generated it helps me rapidly check source text integrity which helps me figure out whether an article is mostly fine salvageable or trash it s part of my standard toolkit for article quality evaluation along with https copyvios toolforge org https wikipedia gptzero me and cite unseen none of them are perfect just tools but i believe they re useful when used with competence and a grain of salt i ve been trying to gather lists of tools along these lines article workflows tools for specific workflow steps user dreamyshade article workflows semi automation that page has some of the ideas i m trying to put into practice in the projo tool dreamyshade talk 01 48 11 september 2026 utc reply wouldn t it not be possible to provide this system access to paywalled content over the wikipedia library the other karma talk 09 44 12 september 2026 utc reply the other karma that s the single biggest thing that would extend coverage earwig s copyvio detector already reaches ebsco through the wikipedia library phab t378077 but those credentials were granted for copyright enforcement only so verification would need its own permission flagging this for meta user samwalton9 wmf as one more editor asking alaexis question 06 21 14 september 2026 utc reply this looks like an actually productive use of ai on wikipedia given the fact that it s not creating new information it seems fine to me i think a test run of this may be promising to introduce new editors kepler 1229b talk contribs 17 23 13 september 2026 utc reply as for the questions 1 possibly but my main editing area lies outside of source verification so i might not be able to test it as much 2 articles with failed verification tags could be first priority for testing kepler 1229b talk contribs 17 25 13 september 2026 utc reply for anyone interested in seeing a demo and talking about this in a voice call we will be hosting a meeting in the wikimedia community discord on 14 sep 2026 from 17 00 18 00 utc this discord call is happening tomorrow monday here is a link for anyone interested in joining https discord gg wikipedia event 1547782657969098752 note we ll continue being responsive in this thread too ppelberg wmf talk 04 51 14 september 2026 utc reply this seems really interesting and a good usage of llms in wikipedia thank you for the open communication too qcne talk 12 02 14 september 2026 utc reply i ll be interested to see how this goes llms are very bad at subtlety and being overconfident on specific answers but very good when delivery an array of possible answers checking source verification could fit very well into the second type displaying an array of possible issues that may require user intervention is something that could be very useful lcu a ctively d isinterested t 20 41 17 september 2026 utc reply it s a much better fit than an llm trying to understand npov see my point about subtlety and overconfidence a common problem in verification is that an editor will add new unsourced content between a sentence and it s reference so the content then looks like it s supported by a reference but that s only partially true even if this could only surface those issues it would be a major win lcu a ctively d isinterested t 20 47 17 september 2026 utc reply sorry i m a bit confused by the question would any of you all be interested in evaluating a batch of these experimental suggestions for en wiki articles i signed up for what sounds exactly like this maybe six weeks or two months ago the entry test was very buggy but it seemed to be getting updated then nothing is this the same project or unrelated johnjbarton talk 22 17 28 september 2026 utc reply thanks for the pro active post on this i have some reservations based on common things that can go wrong as well as other things i would prefer be prioritized but will wait to see the actual suggestions first gnomingstuff talk 06 09 14 september 2026 utc reply i have some reservations based on common things that can go wrong as well as other things i would prefer be prioritized but will wait to see the actual suggestions first understood and sounds great we ll be in touch in this thread once we have the initial set of suggestions generated for y all to review before that we ll be in touch with what criteria we re proposing to use to select the initial 1 000 articles we ll generate suggestions for to make sure we think it will produce a useful sample thanks for the pro active post on this you bet thank you for demonstrating to us the need and value in doing so gnomingstuff ppelberg wmf talk 22 44 14 september 2026 utc reply verify endpoint edit roysmith you suggested that it would be useful to have the verify claim against source exposed as an api endpoint so i ve done it details here i ve checked it myself so feel free to tinker with it too to avoid any doubt the edit suggestions pilot doesn t use this endpoint alaexis question 19 00 29 september 2026 utc reply cool thanks i ll take a look roysmith talk 19 31 29 september 2026 utc reply dataset proposal edit hi y all below is the criteria we are planning to use to select the initial 1 000 articles we will generate source verification suggestions for if you see criteria that are included or missing from the below that you think is critical to reviewing the reliability of this suggestion please comment as much article selection criteria we are proposing to generate an initial batch of source verification suggestions for 1 000 articles using the following selection criteria the criteria you see are meant to reflect what we heard from you all this dataset ought to be representative of where you see these suggestions being most useful and potentially risky selection criteria description motivation evergreen a set of 100 articles user alaexis has predicted are likely to be edited within the next 30 days this is a set of popular and frequently edited articles where the impact of inaccurate claims is higher and where the suggestions are more likely to be seen and acted upon category blp biographies of living people articles susceptible to mis attributed incorrect information and where evaluating all of them might be unrealistic automation to help facilitate this process could make this task more feasible for more people on an ongoing basis category ctop contentious topics category history historical articles articles that are prone to inconsistencies and thus more likely to contain claims that need verification 1 dubious articles where at least one dubious template is present strong signal that unsubstantiated claims may be present offers a helpful reference to benchmark the model against 2 failed verification articles where at least one failed verification template is present ai generated articles volunteers have concluded to be ai generated articles more likely to contain hallucinated references read claims that are not substantiated by the sources that accompany them good article nominations articles nominated for good article status thorough review of all claims within article nominations is necessary and toilsome npp backlog articles created in 2026 that are not reviewed yet there is a long backlog of new articles for review and being able to increase the speed with which volunteers can evaluate verifiability could help decrease it next steps in terms of process here is how we see things going from here step 1 use the criteria above to select 1 000 articles we will create an initial batch of source verification suggestions for we are here step 2 conduct an internal review of these suggestions to ensure they are of sufficient quality to warrant y alls volunteer attention step 3 share the results of the internal review and invite volunteers you all to conduct a second review of the internally vetted dataset step 4 make this initial batch of suggestions available for volunteer review in two ways in bulk via a spreadsheet in context via an experimental suggestion within suggestion mode step 5 analyze volunteer evaluations step 6 share findings and discuss next steps on wiki how does this all sound ppelberg wmf talk 16 17 24 september 2026 utc reply this sounds like a solid plan i must emphasize the importance of being honest with yourselves in the internal review if you re having to say regenerate half the suggestions because of obvious errors that might mean more work is required on the underlying tool before volunteers test it please tell us exactly what you find there with numbers i also wonder if each of these nine categories gets 1 9th of the 1000 articles do we have enough statistical power to do whatever analysis you are hoping to do i m not a statistician and 100 articles per category is still a lot but that s something you want to check beforehand finally would this check the entire article on the articles where it s run for instance if a page has an inline failed verification tag i would be disappointed if the program was set to generate say 3 suggestions per article max and then didn t check the sentence tagged as failed verification for the npp category i suggest choosing only articles that have sat in the npp queue for a week or two to make them less likely to be instantly reviewed and fixed up by someone patrolling the front of the queue toadspike talk 16 50 24 september 2026 utc reply this sounds like a solid plan i must emphasize the importance of being honest with yourselves in the internal review if you re having to say regenerate half the suggestions because of obvious errors that might mean more work is required on the underlying tool before volunteers test it please tell us exactly what you find there with numbers well put and agreed to be explicit following the internal review you can expect us to share 1 how many suggestions we reviewed 2 what a review of each of these suggestions entailed 3 what the quantitative and qualitative outcomes of these reviews were 4 what we think the next step s are in the light of the above i also wonder if each of these nine categories gets 1 9th of the 1000 articles do we have enough statistical power to do whatever analysis you are hoping to do i m not a statistician and 100 articles per category is still a lot but that s something you want to check beforehand first to the question you asked we will be generating suggestions for all claims within the articles in the dataset not just a subset in line with the above we expect this approach to produce a dataset of at least 10 000 suggestions i think this will provide the scale we need to draw meaningful conclusions tho i defer to isaac wmf to say definitively here for the npp category i suggest choosing only articles that have sat in the npp queue for a week or two to make them less likely to be instantly reviewed and fixed up by someone patrolling the front of the queue good spot i think incorporating this constraint shouldn t be too difficult for this run although if that proves to be the case we ll let you know as much thank you for thinking this through toadspike ppelberg wmf talk 21 24 24 september 2026 utc reply i think incorporating this constraint shouldn t be too difficult for this run although if that proves to be the case we ll let you know as much ok it turns out that implementing the above at this point could have unintended side effects so for this first run we ll not apply any date based criteria to the articles we analyze from the npp queue worst case we ll see fewer suggestions there because they will be as you hypothesized of better quality ppelberg wmf talk 21 31 24 september 2026 utc reply thanks sounds good i look forward to being able to get started on this toadspike talk 21 45 24 september 2026 utc reply wonderful i expect us to complete the internal review and have results to share the week october 12th ppelberg wmf talk 21 59 27 september 2026 utc reply invitation to join the conversation on future of affiliates edit latest comment 10 days ago 11 comments 7 people in discussion hi everyone i am kaarel working with the wikimedia foundation facilitating conversations regarding the future of affiliate landscape we would love to get your thoughts on the current discussions on recognition and funding of movement organizations we ve heard many times for example here and here about problems related to grant funded projects and that s why it s incredibly important that your voices ideas and expectations are heard we just published a summary report from our july and august conversations it highlights what people agree on where they disagree and what still needs clearing up we hope this report gives you a good overview of the chat so far and inspires you to jump in your perspective as a project contributor is vital to shaping the future of this model please head over to meta general discussion affiliate model discussion funding discussion to share your thoughts if you have any questions or just want to chat through it feel free to reach out to me i am keen to set that up listen and talk through we will also be hosting two public community calls next week and the week after 1 thursday september 24 16 30 17 30 utc on affiliate overlaps 1 tuesday september 29 16 00 17 00 utc on affiliate growth paths link to the call and 2 thursday september 24 16 30 17 30 utc rescheduled to friday october 2nd 17 00 18 00 utc on affiliate overlaps link to the call thank you for your very kind attention and have a great rest of your week kvaidla wmf talk 08 40 16 september 2026 utc reply this is a real opportunity to bring editors and affiliates even closer together but it does require some changes on the affiliate front and that ...