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comments for equality press https equalitypress wordpress com wed 22 mar 2017 14 02 12 0000 hourly 1 http wordpress com comment on f f bruce on galatians 3 28 by biblical equality and the letters of paul missio alliance https equalitypress wordpress com 2012 01 31 f f bruce on galatians 328 comment 313 wed 22 mar 2017 14 02 12 0000 http equalitypress wordpress com p 126 comment 313 the disciples found christ s welcome of women and greeks so unsettling and those living under roman law also maintained a hierarchy of free over slave and male over female and as such they were equally comment on omelianchuk v cowan by nickquient https equalitypress wordpress com 2011 07 26 omelianchuk v cowan comment 268 sun 31 may 2015 04 31 03 0000 http equalitypress wordpress com p 105 comment 268 hey adam i m curious about your response to cowan hope all is well love your blog nq comment on an accidental misrepresentation by johnny hutchinson https equalitypress wordpress com 2014 03 19 an accidental misrepresentation comment 247 sat 22 mar 2014 12 02 21 0000 http equalitypress wordpress com p 147 comment 247 adam first are you in a long term committed relationship this is not a snarky question if you are not any comments i make might just whistle past your ears secondly what seems good philosophically is not necessarily good psychologically there are always going to be power dynamics in any relationship and in this i mean more psychological than any other and i might be sensitive to these dynamics and respond virtuously to them but one would be buffoon not to recognize these realities having come from a matriarchal home father there in body but not in spirit where all three kids suffered in consequence i would suggest rather than your simplistic equations do the hard work of honestly appraising the psychological consequences of these different relationship types intellectual integrity being the key there are radical differences in proclivities between the sexes and we don t understand the extent of it until we have become quite familiar in discovering these things at quite close quarters proclivities are not static roles and psychologies are very mutable and indeed i believe that opposite sex marriage is supposed to function by discovering accepting embracing mitigating and incorporating into oneself and likewise the spouse those attributes of the other i will give you one radical proclivity do you ever wonder why your philosophy engineering computer science theology even non abrahamic classes or any other discipline that is heavy in systematic thinking is so heavily male even in these times where females have a majority in universities even after 30 or 40 years of trying to promote females into these fields do not men navigate by the cardinal directions whereas females navigate by relational do you think that we were taught that why do men go to their men cave after a distressful argument or event if there are natural proclivities between the sexes which defy the obtuse assertions of social constructions does it not follow that in this world those proclivities will be better suited to different tasks i am not one for standard hard roles that the reformed people advocate a little honest perusal of ot scriptures could utterly destroy rigid role theory however there are proclivities which makes one better suited and if one gender tends to dominate in that area ability then for the common good of the marriage they should be the ones more prominent in that function the major problem with egalitarianism is that of conflict resolution it is a model that leads to endemic battle of wills war of attrition acrimony the increase in divorce rate does parallel although is not totally causative with an egalitarian model of decision making this is not a male female issue only i think of sparta s dual monarchy roman republican dual consuls pre confederation canada deadlock between ontario and quebec and various other models of governance where there is no duly accepted final arbiter there are extremes in complementarianism that make it more like hierarchal however no egalitarian can give a principled theoretical model of conflict resolution that will work when both parties have fairly strong convictions and ego comment on william lane craig on the generation of the son by jr https equalitypress wordpress com 2009 08 21 william lane craig on the generation of the son comment 203 fri 05 oct 2012 17 19 57 0000 http equalitypress wordpress com p 93 comment 203 sounds arian comment on about by sreejith https equalitypress wordpress com about comment 194 mon 27 aug 2012 07 36 49 0000 comment 194 nice equality is a fascinating topic to discuss looking forward for your posts comment on manfred t brauch on kaphale head by marg https equalitypress wordpress com 2011 07 31 manfred t brauch on kaphale head comment 155 thu 20 oct 2011 23 56 47 0000 http equalitypress wordpress com p 113 comment 155 thanks for this link to brauch s book this has been very useful as i am currently writing about the meaning of kephale in paul s letters comment on an unfettered response to jeremy pierce by adam https equalitypress wordpress com 2008 04 17 an unfettered response to jeremy pierce comment 113 fri 05 mar 2010 14 36 20 0000 http equalitypress wordpress com p 9 comment 113 jeremy you would be right to say that it is impossible to respond to her argument in such detail without ever reading any form of it but i still think you are wrong to think that you fully understood it in its best form the problems i pointed to above show that you didn t as i referenced her published responses to your objections several times we certainly are at loggerheads on the issue of whether having more authority doesn t make one greater or superior but i don t think my argument assumes that given that in any of the three views you describe subordination remains ontologically grounded in some way if it is not ontologically grounded in biological sex then it is ontologically grounded in the essence of the son an idea which i find deeply problematic for the doctrine of the trinity though that is another discussion moreover the idea that god s decree for a subordinate sexual role which is related to certain gender properties for a better world alludes to the idea of order which i think is deeply muddled in all forms of complementarianism the point seems to be that utopia would come about in part because women are subordinate to men this is because their role fits better with their properties of gender thus it is woman s proper function to be subordinate to man yet i think it can be established that the proper function of a thing reveals the nature of a thing because only that thing has the intrinsic properties to perform its function well thus the end for which it is made tells us something about the essential properties it has you seem to deny this and may have good reasons for it but i am not sure what they are one might be rooted in the appeal you make to an individual s calling like paul s apostleship but i am not sure that will do in mitigating this line of reasoning it makes a category mistake in that we are talking about assigned roles for an entire class of people not about an individual s specific vocation that could be open to anyone i tried to show from the analogy of race how distorted the concept of equality is within complementarian reasoning if it is true then we could theoretically say that blacks are equal with whites and yet maintain a scheme where blacks are subservient to whites for the establishment of a better world unfortunately this did not stay at the level of theory in our history of race relations contrary to what you might think subordination is not the problem maintaining equality in the face of such subordination is where things get difficult comment on an unfettered response to jeremy pierce by jeremy pierce https equalitypress wordpress com 2008 04 17 an unfettered response to jeremy pierce comment 112 fri 05 mar 2010 02 22 59 0000 http equalitypress wordpress com p 9 comment 112 for the record i have read her treatment what she complained about was that i hadn t read the published version in her book but had read the online version which wasn t finalized or something it turned out the argument was the same in both cases so it didn t matter but it s pretty low to claim that my not having read the final version that was published amounts to not even reading her argument how could i have responded in such detail to an argument i d never read it s not just immoral to do that it s impossible on the content i still maintain that having more authority doesn t make one greater or superior your argument assumes that it does i also still maintain that the role differences in complementarianism in its best form are not based on biological sex but are based in a decree of god a decree that itself is not based on biological sex that decree is based on the trinity and how god chose to reflect it you claim that this is arbitrary well the choice to base it on the trinity is not arbitrary perhaps the choice to have men in one role and women in the other is arbitrary in one sense if it s not based on intrinsic features of men and women but it s not arbitrary completely if there are other reasons for doing it this way reasons we may be unaware of perhaps it leads to a better world to have the sex that occupies one sexual role also has certain gender properties related to this issue so it need not be arbitrary just because it isn t based on intrinsic properties that necessitate role differences the way some complementarians think this is much the same as paul s being chosen for his apostolic role not being derived from anything he earned so he can t credit himself and didn t deserve the treatment as different but nonetheless what god wanted to do worked best because he chose someone with paul s characteristics to do what he had for paul to do comment on a correction to the logic of equality by kay https equalitypress wordpress com 2009 03 10 a correction to the logic of equality comment 105 wed 28 oct 2009 17 21 57 0000 http equalitypress wordpress com p 80 comment 105 i m baffled that complementarians base the role of wives in subordination to the role of husbands on the fact that the husband possesses male reproductive organs while at the same time claiming the doctrine of the eternal subordination of the son when the only member of the trinity we know for sure had male reproductive organs was jesus because the scriptures say he was circumcised but neither the holy spirit nor the father are ever expressly said to possess them so now if authority lies in the possessing of male genitals would not that put the son in authority and the father and the holy spirit in eternal subordination i have yet to find a complementarian who will even attempt an answer comment on william lane craig on the generation of the son by mark s https equalitypress wordpress com 2009 08 21 william lane craig on the generation of the son comment 103 sat 10 oct 2009 23 36 13 0000 http equalitypress wordpress com p 93 comment 103 in reply to perry robinson then why is person not included in the definition of essence is it not already present and if the son is necessarily generated why did the father stop there why not many sons these questions cannot be easily answered or dismissed by the claim that one does not understand since the doctrine of the trinity is itself an attempt to explain the mystery of the inner workings of the godhead