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on nephihah and the east sea were all within marching distance for the lamanites stationed in the cities they had taken from the nephites the lands described by mormon fit in mesoamerica but i do not understand how they fit in the heartland of the usa see richard hauck deciphering the geography of the book of mormon pp xii xiv where was the city of zarahemla located it was located no more than 21 days journey from the west salt sea where lehi landed 1 i zeniff having been taught in all the language of the nephites and having had a knowledge of the land of nephi or of the land of our fathers first inheritance and having been sent as a spy among the lamanites that i might spy out their forces that our army might come upon them and destroy them but when i saw that which was good among them i was desirous that they should not be destroyed 6 and i went in unto the king and he covenanted with me that i might possess the land of lehi nephi and the land of shilom heleman 9 1 6 as explained above the land of first inheritance bordered the west salt sea considered by most byu archaeologists to be the pacific ocean king noah was the son of zeniff and alma was a priest of king noah alma lived in the land of first inheritance when alma traveled to zarahemla it took him 8 days mosiah 23 3 1 day mosiah 24 20 and 12 days mosiah 24 25 it took alma 21 days to travel from the land of first inheritance by the west salt sea to zarahemla traveling with flocks and children alma could cover little more than 10 miles a day obviously the land of zarahemla was not much more than 200 miles from the west salt sea again lehi lived in the land of first inheritance by the west salt sea lehi did not land at the great lakes mormon was driven out of the land of zarahemla to the north and to the west sea mormon 2 3 6 mormon went to the hill shim and made a record mormon 1 3 2 17 eventually as the war wore on the lamanites gave mormon the land of desolation located north of the narrow pass and mormon gave the land of bountiful and the land south of the narrow pass to the lamanites mormon 2 29 the narrow pass was near the west sea alma 63 5 apparently the pacific ocean the city of desolation was near to the narrow pass mormon 3 5 mormon s army fortified this pass mormon 3 6 the lamanites apparently overran this pass and took the city of desolation by the west sea mormon 4 2 3 then the nephites fled to the nearby city of teancum by the seashore ibid this seashore was the west seashore alma 22 32 63 5 mormon went to the hill shim and got the records deposited there by ammaron i mormon seeing that the lamanites were about to overthrow the land therefore i did go to the hill shim and take up all the records mormon 4 23 the hill shim where mormon took up these records was within reasonable traveling distance of the narrow pass by the west sea and the hill cumorah appears to have been located near to the hill shim for omer came over and passed by the hill of shim and came over by the place where the nephites were destroyed the hill cumorah ether 9 3 so the west sea the narrow pass the hill shim and the hill cumorah appear to have been in the same area within reasonable traveling distance of the pacific ocean it is many hundreds of miles between the west salt sea where lehi landed alma 22 28 and the hill cumorah in new york therefore it is very unlikely that mormon went from the pacific coast to a hill shim located near to the hill we call cumorah in new york to get the records hidden by ammaron mormon 2 17 then back to the narrow pass to fight lamanites mormon 2 20 29 then later mormon buried the records he took from the hill shim in the nearby hill he called cumorah mormon 6 6 cumorah new york appears to be too far away from the pacific seacoast the hill vigia in southern mexico appears to be the hill mormon called cumorah richard hauck deciphering the geography of the book of mormon p 150 youtube in search of cumorah the video david palmer in search of cumorah p 245 allen exploring the lands of the book of mormon p 192 i have written much more on this subject found on line many references from the word of god discount the heartland and great lakes theories if the reader wants to know more follow president benson s advice read the book of mormon pay attention to the geographic references provided by mormon and either then you will be able to fit the book of mormon on the land joseph smith and oliver cowdery could not have possibly concocted said book the cultures resources and geography fit in mesoamerica they do not work in the usa mormon nephi and ether wrote most of the book oliver cowdery was only a scribe there were no revisions and editing by oliver like most of us the lord uses the weak things of the earth to do his work and we all mistakes but the truth in the book of mormon will last forever trust the word of god it is the position of the church posted by eldon s posts at 7 01 pm no comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest wednesday july 8 2015 where are the lands of the book of mormon where are the lands of the book of mormon opinions of latter day saints concerning the location of the lands of the book of mormon are scattered from south america to the hill cumorah in new york there is no consensus of opinion regardless the book of mormon is the position of the church and the geography and cultures described in this book must be the standard for identifying the lands and cultures presented by nephi mormon moroni and ether theories that conflict with the content of the book of mormon can not be correct however there are many mormons that as part of their testimonies are determined to fit a large square peg into a small round hole based on traditional beliefs reported to have been presented by historic mormon leaders the fact is that the church has no position as to where the lands of the book of mormon are located this being the case then statements and opinions of historic church leaders are not conclusive nevertheless statements and opinions of historic prophets are cherished by believers reportedly joseph smith said that there were nephites and lamanites in the hearland of the usa consequently some are sure that the events recorded in the book of mormon occurred in the great plains and north to the hill cumorah in new york nephites and lamanites may have lived in south america or in canada so why is the heartland of the usa the right place some have found evidence in south america that supports the book of mormon and they tend to hold fast to south america as the right place on the other hand lds scientists have firmly established the relationship between the geography recorded in the book of mormon and mesoamerica the lands of the book of mormon fit well in mesoamerica hauck f richard deciphering the geography of the book of mormon printed by deseret book salt lake city utah 1988 p xii regardless of scientific evidence believers report that joseph smith said or wrote that the nephites and lamanites were found in the heartland of the usa remember the lds church has no position as to the location of the lands of the book of mormon so quoting historic lds prophets is not conclusive the geography presented in the book of mormon is conclusive it is apparent that the lands of the book of mormo n were not in the united states of america because there were no major battles fought among the natives of the great plains before 1050 ad pauketat timothy r cahokia viking penguin group 375 hudson street new york n y usa 2009 p 165 moreover the archaeological data from the area of palmyra new york is not consistent with the cultures presented in the book of mormon there were no great cities no towers for worship little metallurgy no formal political state and no organized religion there was very little craft development limited agriculture no formal written language and no calendar in that area palmer david a in search of cumorah horizon publishers and printers august 1984 p o box 490 50 south 500 west bountiful utah 84010 pp 86 87 discounting the book of mormon is popular but the geography presented in the book fits well in mesoamerica the city of moroni of the book of mormon appears to be inundated under the caribbean sea just east of lake izabal the cuchumatanes must be the narrow strip of wilderness that ran in a straight line from the east sea to the west sea the grijalva river and the usumacinta river both head out in the cuchumantes mountains and run north to the sea lds scientists are divided on which of these rivers is the river sidon of the book of mormon paredon viejo appears to be the fortification built by general mormon s troops paredon viejo is located on the south side of the iathmus of tehuantepec the hill xim pronounced shim in the mayan language appears to the hill shim of the book of momon located on the west and north side of the isthmus of tehuantepec and the hill vigia located nearby is presented by nearly all latter day saint scientists as the hill cumorah of the book of mormon careful study of these issues has proved to me that the book of mormon is faithful beyond all opposition and i doubt that any open minded person that will do his homework can come to any other conclusion i have proved to myself of the bases of the facts that mesoamerica is the right place and i have written the book where in the americas are the lands of the book of mormomn free copies of this book may be obtained by contacting me eldonvern sbcglobal net posted by eldon s posts at 8 29 pm no comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest wednesday june 15 2011 climate change anyone global warming carbonic acid in air combines with rain water to form h2co3 h2co3 erodes limestone releasing carbon dioxide into the water calcium hydroxide ca oh 2 shell fish in the ocean apparently convert ca oh 2 into limestone ca co 3 shellfish combine carbon oxygen with calcium to form limestone photosysthysis also balances carbon plants and shellfish remove carbon from the envoronment when it comes to carbon being released by nature into the environment volcanos relese carbon plants and animals and all life forms release carbon when they burn cabohydrates also carbonic acid in rain water combines with limestone to release carbon from the limestone rock limestone is very abundent world wide and carbonic acid in rain water impacts much of it releasing carbon large amounts of plant and animal material contining much carbon are buried each year in the deltas of major rivers on the bottom of the oceans and in lakes organic matter buried in the ocean eventially becomes oil tar and natural gas the carbon that comes out of you car and our power plants was once buried in the earth much of it during the carboniforus era when we burn fuel the carbon goes back into the air where it came from in the first place in good time it will again be bound with calcium or buried in the ocean i have this question how much carbon is in the air and the water today compared to the amount of carbon that was in the air and water in the past no one has provided to me an answer to this question that i trust until i have the answer to this question the issue of global warming is for me a theory not a fact yes i know that glaciers have been melting in alaska and ships have made the north west passage but at the south pole the ice is still there i have sumarized here in what i understand about clamate change i am a biologist with 38 years of experience and i question the statments of lesser qualified people that endorse the theory of global warming i also question the statement of the unlearned that discount the posiblity of man caused climate change i have read that debris and soot resulitng from air polution are responsible for the melting of glaciers posted by eldon s posts at 2 49 pm no comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest monday june 13 2011 dianne guymon christmas at marks 2006 posted by eldon s posts at 2 36 pm no comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest the time of the gentiles appears to be ending and scattered israel is being gathered 24 and this i have told you concerning jerusalem and when that day shall come the romans in 70 a d destroyed the jewish tempile and captured jerusalem shall a remnant of the jews be scattered among all nations 25 but they the jews shall be gathered again but they shall remain in palestine today until the times of the gentiles be fulfilled 26 and that day shall be heard of wars and rumors of wars and the whole earth shall be in commotion and men s hearts shall fail them and they shall say that christ delayeth his coming until the end of the earth 27 and the love of men shall wax cold and iniquity shall abound 28 and when the times of the gentiles is come in a light shall break forth among them that sit in darkness and it shall be the fulness of my gospel the restored church 29 but they the gentiles receive it not for they perceive not the light and they turn their hearts from me jesus christ because of the precepts of men so it was written and so it is happening before our very eyes 30 and in that generation shall the times of the gentiles be fulfilled doctrine and covenants section 45 24 29 the gospel would be taken from the gentiles and given to the remnant of israel including the jews what can we expect to happen in palestine 2 behold i will make jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about when they shall be in the siege both against judah and against jerusalem 3 and in that day will i make jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it 5 and the governors of judah shall say in their heart the inhabitants of jerusalem shall be my strength in the lord of hosts their god 6 in that day will i make the governors of judah like an hearth of fire among the wood and like a torch of fire in a sheaf and they shall devour all the people round about on the right hand and on the left and jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place even in jerusalem i eldon have lived to see the jews return to palestine and win wars that were appeared to be impossible for them to win 8 in that day shall the lord defend the inhabitants of jerusalem and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as david and the house of david shall be as god as the angel of the lord before them 9 and it shall come to pass in that day that i will seek to destroy all the nations that come against jerusalem 10 and i will pour upon the house of david and upon the inhabitants of jerusalem the spirit of grace and of supplications and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced and they shall mourn for him as one mourneth for his only son and shall be in bitterness for him as one that is in bitterness 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