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implies yet seems to reject times square is just such a movie and for some of those readings and or personal responses to it check out this fanblog defeatedandgifted or this response by the author of the pussyrock fanzine and many thanks to both of them for these great screen caps when i first saw this movie it was a fucking epiphany i was 14 years old hospitalised in a psychiatric unit and just getting into alternative culture times square was a revelation it showed you how exciting and chaotic the big city could be and how it would inspire and stimulate you as well as scare you that was my dream to run away to the bright lights and have my own creative renaissance and be discovered by some cool alternative media svengali it seemed like nicky and pamela represented the 2 halves of my personality and my 2 possible futures this movie seemed like the only thing remotely resembling and evoking my mood and hopes and fears at the time pamela trini alvarado left is the über good girl daughter of the ny city commissioner but being good has left her feeling like a soulless zombie nicky robin johnson right is a street tough with disruptive antisocial tendencies they meet in the mental ward of a hospital being checked out for similar conditions how else can adults explain these girls unwillingness to be normal and happy and despite the differences between them they recognize one another as similar souls so they run away together to live in an abandoned building near the downtown docks at first they focus just on surviving but because of pamela s father s efforts to find her using posters and radio notices that emphasize nicky s mental instability they gradually start to articulate a reaction against the normative world around them those articulations are easier for the educated poetic gentle pamela but they re more explosive from nicky who embraces their new underworld identity as the sleez sisters the film s fame comes from moments like that the girls energizing exuberant defiance of the status quo it also comes from the queer relationship between them which though never explicitly sexualized is clearly the real story of this film in fact the original cut had far more lesbian content due to radical conflicts between the film s producer robert stigwood and director moyle who eventually quit the project in frustration times square was brutally edited and it shows in choppy and nonsensical narrative leaps do any diehard fans out there know whether that cut footage still exists what a great addition it would make to a dvd the only way men matter to the lives of nicky and pamela is as conflicting authority figures pamela s uptight father and at the other end of the spectrum a local radio dj with his own agenda tim curry these girls are primarily dedicated to one another in a way that goes beyond simple friendship and even simple love the most poignant and perfect expression of their bond is a beautifully shot scene in the drydock looking out over the harbor they ve just found it and have decided this ll be their home and they need to adjust to their new style of life nicky tells pamela that if either one of them is ever in trouble they should scream out the other s name for help pammy pammy pammy she screams to demonstrate pamela responds nicky nicky nicky it s the equivalent of one of those male bonding scenes in which two dudes slice open their hands to exchange blood with one another but this is more subversive it signals that these girls might well face sexual violence or attack while living on the street yet screaming together gives them a voice just like we were taught in those self defense classes in college and it makes them giddy and giggly too it s like a spell they cast around them that cements their tie to one another it s specifically a feminine bonding moment based on female danger and a rejection of female victimhood no wonder the film reads so obviously as queer despite the heavy editing watching this film reminds you of the commentators in the amazing documentary the celluloid closet who describe watching certain films over and over and over just to catch that one amazing queer moment no wonder times square was a fucking epiphany the rock punk scenes i m a damn dog now in the above clip and the your daughter is one scene you can find on youtube don t just confirm the girls outsider status but show how that music looked different if it was done by girls and how subversive it might be if they embraced a whole lot of racial and sexual epithets so what if this movie s crazy storyline leaves you scratching your head a bit who ever saw homeless girls with such enviable wardrobes with such a great furnished apartment who so easily get jobs in a topless joint yet don t have to go topless i can be snooty about such things remember my unwillingness to overlook the narrative gaps in easy a but i finished watching it and only wanted to return to certain scenes over and over and over one of the last scenes in which an army of teenage girl fans of the sleez sisters show up wearing the same black mask makeup as nicky didn t make any narrative sense but made me wish the statement would come back even thirty years after the movie s initial release one final note about that army of teenage girl fans there was a similar plot element in ladies and gentlemen the fabulous stains although it was deeply troubling in that later film clearly films of this early 80s generation realized that teenage girls were looking for an outlet a leader someone to articulate their frustration was this how filmmakers addressed the question of feminism as it pertained to a young generation or was it a more ambivalent gesture in susan douglas s terms filmmakers took feminism into account for a brief moment and then ignored it i m left on the fence with only a long list of more cult films about female rockers to help me answer it rock on readers posted by didion filed in 1980s films 2010s films cult movies about female rockers easy a enlightened sexism female ambition ladies and gentlemen the fabulous stains susan douglas the runaways times square women in rock tags allan moyle celluloid closet cult movies about female rockers easy a ladies and gentlemen the fabulous stains robin johnson the runaways times square trini alvarado 7 comments the brainy bunch girls edition 11 december 2010 has anyone else noticed that articles like this one in new york magazine don t get written about young female actors the brainy bunch is about five young men jesse eisenberg michael fassbender james franco joseph gordon levitt and tom hardy who according to the journalist bust a bunch of stereotypes because they play twitchy complicated and most of all brilliant characters the author marvels that these smart actors bring the raw nerve of indie sensibility to the screen moreover in so doing they are reimagining the mainstream articles like this one are inevitably about men not because actresses aren t smart but because they re not playing smart onscreen this has lathered me up into a rant because i think this is yet another example of the exceptionally disturbing moment we re living in during which women s primary value is their hotness not their smartness considering that i grew up in an age when the tomboy smartypants jodie foster was the pre teen it girl a multilingual woman who graduated magna cum laude from yale i m not prepared to let men be smart while women commit their energies to being hot yet i ve been putting some muscle into coming up with a similar list of remarkable young female actors who play smart onscreen and it s really hard not hard for older women mind you as a culture we seem perfectly willing to grant brains to women over 35 witness helen mirren holly hunter tilda swinton charlotte rampling frances mcdormand judy davis the one vivid exeption to the rule is mia wasikowska above she of that remarkable 1st season of in treatment alice in wonderland as the teenaged daughter in the kids are all right and the upcoming jane eyre other than that can you think of a single young actor who plays smart onscreen from one role to the next i can t as much as i loved the fast talking smarts of carey mulligan in an education and emma stone in easy a this year there s one thing that ruins those tales for me ultimately these smart characters are shown to be dumb when it comes to men and sex respectively get it smart girls aren t smart about everything i can think of a couple of one off performances this year jennifer lawrence in winter s bone and noomi rapace in the girl with the dragon tattoo franchise but i have yet to be convinced that these actors can translate one excellent part into the kinds of careers that new york magazine s favorite young men have achieved consider the career of harvard grad natalie portman who s now getting close to 30 and therefore into the age range wherein hollywood allows women to be brilliant has she ever played smart onscreen and don t even get me started on the fact that the last time i saw a smart young latina asian native american or black woman onscreen was shareeka epps in half nelson 2006 and where have the roles gone for epps in the meantime if any of you doubts the perversity of this trend consider one of the prevailing cultural anxieties appearing in major media of the past six months the idea that boys are falling behind girls or in hanna rosin s trademark hysterical terms the end of men at the same time that we watch smart boys and hot girls onscreen we re also supposed to feel anxious about the fact that girls do better in school and young women are going to college in vastly larger numbers than boys they make up roughly 60 of college populations this has prompted rosin and her ilk to proclaim that women are winning some kind of battle against men thus the fact that our films persist in peddling some kind of retro fantasy about boys smartness seems to reject our anxieties that girls might be pretty and smart and reassures us that smart dudes will always bag the hotties if you need an explanation for my bleak mood it s because i just finished reading gary shteyngart s incredibly disturbing dystopian novel super sad true love story in this america of the future women wear clothes made by the juicypussy brand total surrender panties which pop off at the push of a little button and have their hotness level perpetually broadcast to everyone around them via a version of a smartphone called an äpparät it s a brilliant characterization of the future i cringed and laughed at the fact that the hero s love interest eunice park majored in images and minored in assertiveness in college we all know that s where we re heading but ultimately one that reiterates that tired trope shlubby bookish imperfect aging hero falls for very beautiful very young very anti intellectual woman and wins her at least for a while you know what i love shlubby men in real life hi honey but i have grown to despise their perpetual appearance in narratives so to cleanse my palate of the oily aftertaste of super sad i ve plunged myself into muriel barbery s wonderful novel the elegance of the hedgehog which moves back and forth between the interior monologues of two brilliant women the autodidact renée who hides behind her mask as an unkempt sullen concierge in an elegant paris apartment building and paloma the precociously intelligent 12 year old who lives upstairs and despises the pretentions of her family teachers and classmates they seem to be on a path to discover one another but i m at the point in the novel when i m so enjoying just listening to them think out loud that i m not sure i care whether the narrative goes anywhere paloma has a diatribe about why grammar is about accessing the beauty of language that s so wonderful i m thinking of plagiarizing it for use in my classes here s what it would take to cultivate a generation of young actresses known for their braininess just jettison the smart vs hot binary for women onscreen already if i see glasses used as the smart signifier one more time write some stories in which young women aren t just interested in dudes all the time but have wholly stand alone loves of language art math con artistry biology music sports comic books religion killing demons other girls or food even drugs or booze for gods sake just like actual women stop resigning smart girls to the sidekick position in kids films like harry potter cloudy with a chance of meatballs and tv shows like buffy etc show that smartness isn t just a magical quality endowed by nature but is something that takes work show that smartness can pose a problem beyond scaring off potential dudes when young women face idiotic paternalistic bosses teachers too tired to teach to the top 1 of a class or families in which no one has ever gone to college let girls play brilliant anti heroes along the lines of jesse eisenberg s take on mark zuckerberg or hell just weird antisocial types like lisbeth salander let girls play funny let young female actors fail occasionally in a part the way we just keep forgiving failures by jonah hill zach galifianakis ashton kutcher even robert downey jr the list goes on without career consequences give me a central female character besides the girl with the dragon tattoo who s a computer whiz display explicitly feminist characters onscreen and have them explain their opinions maybe then we won t experience that odd whiplash of suddenly having our actresses arrive at the age of 35 and suddenly become smart does this read as unattractive and or ball busting to male viewers i wonder i for one am looking forward to my movies looking a bit more like reality posted by didion filed in 2000s films 2010s films an education carey mulligan easy a emma stone female ambition gary shteyngart gender gap girl who kicked the hornet s nest girl who played with fire girl with the dragon tattoo half nelson hanna rosin helen mirren holly hunter jennifer lawrence jesse eisenberg jodie foster mia wasikowska movies books you need to know and probably don t muriel barbery natalie portman noomi rapace shareeka epps the curious case of women in film tilda swinton why feminism matters now winter s bone tags an education carey mulligan easy a emma stone gary shteyngart girl with the dragon tattoo in treatment jennifer lawrence jodie foster mia wasikowska muriel barbery natalie portman noomi rapace shareeka epps super sad true love story the elegance of the hedgehog winter s bone 4 comments easy a 2010 and high school perversity 23 september 2010 here s what i like about this movie it s funny emma stone makes an adorable smart eminently watchable star and it sneaks in a literary tie in to hawthorne s scarlet letter what can i say i m a geek about a year from now when it appears in heavy rotation on sunday afternoon cable tv i ll watch it and laugh all over again but don t get me wrong this is not a great high school sex comedy 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