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of lunch what happened i thought we were going to do lunch like two weeks ago may 21 2009 at 10 11 pm unknown said jay p reverse racism is not made out to be a big deal because there is no such thing as reverse racism maybe racism is what you re trying to say here putting reverse in front is often used to show how whites are discriminated against equally when there are hard facts to support the contrary racism also requires an element of power which we already know minority communities do not hold as well a part of the legacy of racism and oppression is the internalization of the hatred put on that group so when you hear people disciplining or making fun of each other based on racist ideas it is the symptoms of oppression that you re witnessing just as the kid that was called stupid all his life grows up to see himself as stupid and subsequently calls himself and others stupid it s always easier for society to wait until he turns 18 then says that he has to accept responsibility for something that was put on him rather than acknowledging that it was not his fault point being whites need not wait for minority groups to resolve their own issues with race to begin to do the hard work it takes to change their own culture so deeply rooted in supremist ideology especially when they are the ones with the most social power to actually affect people s lives based on race may 25 2009 at 2 23 pm jay p said hello kandeezie actually no i knew exactly what i was stating had you not immediately begun formulating some plan of attack for what must be some white guy talking crap again as soon as you saw reverse racism you would have noticed that my call was to end racism period i made that clear by stating all racism however and forgive me if i am mistaken but i assume you to be a black female based on the tone of your response and your feminine appearing name i can infer as much because you immediately assert that whites are not discriminated against equally i am not sure what you mean by the term equally however let me assure you that yes whites are discriminated against for being white i personally have seen or experienced the discrimination yes i am a white male by blacks asians middle easterners and indians which technically would be asians but for the sake of argument so please do not try to tell me that it does not exist my assumption is that you are in no position to do so i would certainly never try to assert that there is no racism against blacks that would simply be a foolish statement and the same goes for your assertion i am well educated indvidual however aside from my college level introductory sociology and psychology teachings and my graduate level course in psychiatry i do not have much in the way of formal training in those areas therefore i am unable to rebut your obvious attempts to appear to have great knowledge with your discussions of internalizations powers communities etc with equally as intelligent sounding responses however i do have the education i have and more importantly my life experiences experiences from growing up in a diverse community to working in and with communities that are poverty stricken violent not well educated so yes i do know what is out there in my opinion real life will speak volumes against whatever theories you read in books or discuss in class so it just kills me when i see individuals such as yourself get up on a high horse and begin to spew out propoganda instead of just getting to the issue attitudes such as yours just continue to perpetuate racism racism exists bottom line it exists against all races in many different forms because in some fashion there is always someone with power minority or not and please keep in mind that minority is really a relative term these days depending on your location and because it still exists it needs to stop one last point inquiry in regard to your simile with the boy called stupid how would you explain the asian male adopted by well off whites raised in a community where he did not experience oppression and hatred did not have any similar appearing asian authority figures instilling those ideals into him that still proceeds to make fun of his physical attributes as an asian born individual that does not quite seem to fit your stated theory may 27 2009 at 10 36 pm sydney said wow not a doubt in my mind a racist slur if from a place of ignorant innocence what i have no doubt of is if someone asian had been in the room she would not have made that remark which to me is the most telling indicator good for you for speaking up may 27 2009 at 10 50 pm c l jones said i would hope that no one would think that it is appropriate to mock asian americans without calling that racist the issue with racism in america is that i think it has become some normalized in a sense that when people are being racists they really don t think they are that is not to excuse the comment but i think some people don t know or really understand what racism is plus racism as so often been attached to black and white people that when you bring another marginalized group into the equation some people don t believe that racism can spill over to other groups good read may 28 2009 at 9 14 am lisa vazquez said hi there that is just soooo incredibly racist that i am floored that someone would even attempt to defend it i constantly hear negative remarks about asian features and no one thinks that it s crude rude and stunningly ignorant peace blessings and dunamis lisa may 28 2009 at 4 10 pm lisa vazquez said kandeezie i am now picking myself off of the floor after reading your response to jay p it is absolutely correct it is jarring to encounter white people who want to pretend that white privilege doesn t exist and that they are just as marginalized as all other groups ummmm will someone please start brewing some coffee may 28 2009 at 4 13 pm jay p said blackwomenblowthetrumpet i find it jarring to encounter angry black women that insist in skewing statements conversations etc to fit their own hippocritical ideals no where did i even address white privilege or claim that caucasians are just as marginalized as anyone else all i simply made a call for was an end to all racism whether it be against blacks whites asians middle easterners etc and it just so happened that i mentioned that yes on occasion racism does occur against white people instead of agreeing that racism occurs in many forms and that in general our country as a whole needs to be educated and that racial acceptance should be promoted a couple of angry black women then decide that it s a good idea to deny aspects of racism that are not relevent to them because it so happens to be against a group that they are obviously bitter against which in turn continues the vicious cycle perhaps it would do some good if folks that want to allegedly promote acceptance equality etc look a little closer to home to see what their attitudes and feelings as a whole are really like before approaching the rest of the world with their preachings june 8 2009 at 12 01 am unknown said jay p as a white woman and my race and gender really shouldn t matter to you but clearly it does in your other responses let me say that i completely agree with kandeezie no one is saying that we don t want to end all racism but the attitudes you have experienced towards white people by people of color is not technically racism kandeezie said it much better than i could but i think you need to listen well when i say that just because it isn t technically racism doesn t make it right good or fair we aren t saying it s ok but it s not racism i would have hoped your sociology classes would have taught you that as they did for me also way to go perpetuating more fucked up stereotypes like angry black women when they did not respond with anger you re the only angry person i see here july 14 2009 at 1 10 pm anonymous said isn t racism when one associates race with a negative character trait like being lazy stupid etc or that violence or mistreatment is ok against a person of a certain race it seems to me like this woman wasn t associating negative character traits or acceptable mistreatment against asian people she wasn t even associating positive character traits with asian people rather she was associating a race ethnicity of people with food that originates from countries where people are of that race ethnicity this is racist in the sense that it regards race but the only association it makes is that asian people often eat asian food is this an unfair statement if she had said if i keep eating italian food i ll become italian would you have been offended if not what is it about physical race physical skin color facial feature structure etc that is a more hot button topic than nationality or ethnicity country of origin of you or your family members why is it that i can be proud of english or german decent although german is speculative because people tell me that of course all germans were are rabidly supportive nazis but i m not allowed to be proud of being white and how dare anyone say that when one sees a white person and because they re white thinks that they re rich or lazy or powerful or contemptuous or whatever and say that that s not racism that s clearly racism based on either definition above i make no claims about who gets racially attacked more i don t know if it exists how does that change the reality or make the individual acts more acceptable all i m saying is that in every conceivable group there are idiots that will twist our ideas towards malice and fuck it up for the rest of us i say that we stop bickering and work on dealing with those people first by being clear and calm and part of our very rationality prejudiced group we should try either to not point fingers at race at all or to just accept race and not consciously associate it with outside qualities october 15 2009 at 1 04 am post a comment newer post older post home 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