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radified guide to norton ghost symantec a tutorial on how to clone hard disk drives norton ghost support community forum faq p a g e f o u r t e e n o f s i x t e e n cloning drives with norton ghost let me preface this section by saying i have never cloned anything i ve only created restored images if i was going to clone either a disk or partition i d first want to talk to someone who has real life experience cloning is like copying no image file is created during the cloning process during cloning ghost copies files from the source partition or disk to the destination target the thing that makes ghost s cloning features so powerful is that all the files are copied many people ask why they can t simply use windows to copy files from one drive to another try it you ll discover why windows file copy won t copy the fat file allocation table partition table or boot files all of which you need you may hear about a utility called xcopy i ve never used it but have heard it mentioned debated many times some insist that it works fine others claim it s flawed here s a link called xcopy xposed that says it s flawed and gives reasons why another utility called xxcopy no not porn supposedly works like xcopy but without its alleged problems i ve never used it you might also find helpful these links to disk utilities from several major hard drive manufacturers including maxtor seagate and western digital these utilities do essentially the same thing that ghost s cloning feature does ghost s cloning feature is typically used to copy the contents of one disk partition usually older smaller to another usually newer larger users have reported success with this method some caution that if a boot drive is involved you must set a partition on the new drive as the active partition you can do this with fdisk i was under the impression that the destination drive must be at least as big as the source but dharma singh writes to say this is not true he says that you can clone a larger drive 36gb for example to a smaller one 18gb for example as long as the contents data of the source drive do not exceed the capacity of the destination target he says he has actually done this he also notes that disk performance drops significantly after a disk is 85 full especially with ntfs for this reason he says it s best to buy a new drive with at least double the capacity you need say for example you have an older smaller drive that contains 3 partitions if you clone one partition at a time you ll first have to create the partitions on the new drive destination target you ll have to repeat the cloning process for each partition doing each partition individually gives you more control over the cloning process if you clone an entire physical hard disk i don t think you have to partition it first but not sure before we begin you should be aware that the destination target partitions will be overwritten screen shot if you make a mistake and select the wrong disk partition you will lose valuable data all the caveats from the preceding page on image restoration apply to cloning if you have not yet read the preceding page go there now and read about the hazards associated with overwriting either a partition or a disk to clone an entire physical disk select local disk to disk screen shot to clone an individual partition select local partition to partition screen shot notice that you cannot clone partition to disk nor can you clone disk to partition i don t have all the other steps listed here because i ve never done this and i don t want to give you the illusion that i have but you will go through the steps or selecting the source and destination target just like you do with creating and restoring images les burns writes to say your section on cloning makes no mention of removing the newly created drive from the system failure to do so before rebooting will annihilate your registry we were moving an os to a second drive when cloning you must remove the cloned drive before rebooting into windows windows will look at the system scan the registry realizes its duplicated and deems it s corrupt then it creates a new blank registry and carries on with that i tried restoring the registry from the command prompt but alas nothing live and learn in response to les comment above bob davis writes to say this is true only with the nt based os s not win98se and presumably similar os s win95 win98 me i always have a fully cloned drive in my system d running win98se and have never experienced adverse effects from doing so in about two years using ghost to supplement my weekly ghosting of three rotated hd s mounted in mobil racks i run a daily batch file with windows task scheduler that updates important files to d this includes business databases oe dbx s wab etc this system has been the best backup method i ve found in 20 years of computing and has bailed my butt out of trouble more than once another bit of info you might find helpful when cloning see christer s note in this thread 5th post was the cloning done 1 from within windows or 2 from ghost boot disks if 1 then computer b was automatically restarted with two identical hard disks after cloning one to the other installed windows reassigns a different volume identification to one of the hard disks and that hard disk will not boot if 2 and the computer b was reset after completion then the same applies as above use method 2 but when completed do not let ghost reset the computer but turn it off on the power switch and remove the temporary hard disks when installed separately in different computers they should boot here s a quote from one of the forum s moderators christer from sweden you might find it helpful as i understand this issue windows xp knows which hardware was installed when it is shut down xp has attached a volume identifier to each volume when xp is restarted it redetects the hardware and if the same all is well when a disk is cloned disk to disk there will be two volumes with the same volume identifier if the computer is restarted with both harddisks the source and the clone installed xp will start from the source detect the clone as new hardware and change the volume identifier since there can not be two volumes with the same volume identifier nothing will be detected by the user until he she takes out the source and makes the clone the boot drive now xp can not boot because of the changed volume identifier the solution is simple when ghost 2003 is used to do the disk to disk cloning you don t let ghost reset the computer and restart windows but turn off the computer and remove the clone before restarting how this is done using ghost 9 i don t know cloning partitions drives with ghost9 for those of you using ghost 9 brian our resident rad ghost 9 guru thru together a little ditty on how to clone partitions using ghost 9 see here cloning partitions with ghost 9 norton ghost support community forum faq p a g e f o u r t e e n o f s i x t e e n next page 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