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the home brew digest all the brew that s fit to pint skip to content the home brew digest all the brew that s fit to pint still kickin the hbd is still here though like a dying star it is slowly winding down much of this site s code is now over 30 years old and for the most part has served its purpose long ago and is ready to be relegated to the trash heap of history i still tinker with the 30 year old code now and again but due mostly to the major life changes in the past year and the lack of an obvious audience for the product i don t feel very motivated when it comes to this stuff if you find a favorite function not behaving as it used to or should feel free to pop me a note and time and mood allowing i ll look at it otherwise mourn the days gone by as long as i endure on the internet the hbd archives will be available here the rest of this stuff is subject to the evolution of the operating system this vps is built upon and as demonstrated by the lack of traffic no longer worth the effort of updating it and this is not a whine or complaint the hbd and its facilities are the dinosaurs of the internet and this is just nature taking her normal course cheers pat babcock hbd janitor in chief posted on 24 august 2021 by pat babcock 2 comments pesky spammers cost everyone since the idiot spammers are randomly posting usually in russian comments on random posts i ve been forced to set the automatically disable comments on posts older than 14 days flag shouldn t be much of an impact as not very many people who are not spammers post comments anymore but just be advised if a post is over 14 days old when you discover it you will not be able to add you voice to the discussion cheers pat babcock hbd janitor in chief posted on 5 september 2020 by pat babcock and in the end well the forum software used for brews and views has been challenging to keep up with apparently it has become the new favorite of hackers and script kiddies and frankly i have not been able to keep up with the patching so once again a hacker has gotten the best of the brews and views forum and the database has been pretty much hosed equally unfortunate since the demise of bill pierce and the prevalence of vendor owned and other more highly moderated fora brews and views had devolved into something that one or two brewers used occasionally based on this i have unilaterally decided to end brews and views after over 20 years of operation rip it s been fun cheers pat babcock hbd janitor in chief posted on 27 may 2020 27 may 2020 by pat babcock 7 comments recipator wars episode vi return of the functionality nick has come in from the battlefront with exciting news the recipator is functional once again he is prudently leaving things in a read only state until he s satisfied that the database is stable for writing but you can read it to your heart s content your recipes stored therein my friends are accessible once again please join me in giving nick a virtual pat on the back and our gratitude for his work thus far and going foreward thanks nick cheers pat babcock hbd janitor in chief posted on 2 february 2019 2 february 2019 by pat babcock 17 comments recipator wars episode iv a new hope well first off after further prodding by a certain individual to let someone help i did one last all out effort to find mark riley unfortunately i think this effort bore fruit a mark riley fitting the profile of what i know of the mark riley rough geographic area rough age passed away in 2014 at a very young age circumstantially at or before the time of this individual s passing all maintenance and or input to sites that i knew him to be involved in stopped i m pretty sure this is the same mark riley and it certainly explains my inability to raise him even through the us postal service may god rest him and i hope receipt of my letter last year did not upset any remaining family with that and there being no real market value for the recipator except as an appendage of the hbd brewery i don t think his estate would mind that someone other than me got the thing functioning on the new server plus i think it would be a nice legacy for him to have it active again secondly the individual who has volunteered to help has pledged to do so only for the purpose of getting it back online with all of that work has begun on restoring the recipator to functionality with younger more capable hands please welcome nick tillman to the team and be sure to give him encouragement as he wades into another man s code may the froth be with him cheers pat babcock hbd janitor in chief posted on 3 december 2018 3 december 2018 by pat babcock 4 comments back at it found myself with a little slack time so back at it file by file line by line yawn discovered a few more things and am working on them hopefully when i m done i will have fixed the code hygiene to the point that the next poor sap er janitor won t have such a difficult time with this beastie in any case i m still swinging at this thing in case you re wondering cheers pat babcock hbd janitor in chief posted on 7 may 2018 by pat babcock 17 comments a new hope i was deep in the bowels of the recipator last night and made some progress however recipe retrieval is still not functioning i ll be taking an in depth swing at the causes there tonight while digging through the recipator folders on the old server i did find a document that coughed up a mailing address for mark riley which google trulia etc says is still current i wrote mark a letter imploring his help and popped that into the snail mail system hopefully that will bear fruit and the old master will return to put his creation back into fighting trim thanks for bearing with as i said it is one of my priorities but my skills in all things c are very rusty and unfortunately or otherwise real life takes precedence over the maintenance of this thing cheers pat babcock hbd janitor in chief posted on 19 december 2017 19 december 2017 by pat babcock 9 comments memories paint the corners of my carboy yeasty beery colored memories of the way we were in looking for an email from a particular organization i came across this 2012 response i wrote to an old hbd contributor reader and friend writing an article on beer and social media i m leaving off the name as i did not ask permission to post their query i actually do respect all y all s privacy to wit writer once upon a time hbd was the most advanced form of social media out there i am writing a feature on beer networking for the identifying info redacted and was curious whether you miss the good old days when everything took place via e mail how do you feel things have improved or got worse my deadline is in about a week thanks in advance me in terms of the modern day internet the hbd is a museum piece email was long ago supplanted by other web media methods relative to that change there is a vast quantity of information available to brewers today with an immediacy of access with which a daily mailing list could never compete on the bad side little care is required due to both the wealth and the immediacy of these information sites and the same questions are asked over and over from site to site and even within the same topic on a single site the signal to noise ratio a metric in which the hbd had always been top notch is pretty dismal in most of these new forums questions asked on a modern internet discussion site will usually garner tens to hundreds of answers some very valuable some absolute draff and the person asking the question is left to sort it out from among the competing voices here too some sites are better than others in terms of that s n ratio and unfortunately or otherwise many of the better s n sites are run either openly or surreptitiously by folks having a financial interest in what answers the poster eventually sees do i miss the old days sometimes it was neat to see something you had your hands so deeply into thrive it was great to have an active role in promoting and influencing the craft as well on the other hand as quirky as the internet was back in the hbd s prime time the frequent service outages used to drive my blood pressure through the roof while usually in a panic i worked with its various isps to restore the service then came the onslaught of spam and the moderation task became more than one person in one time zone could contain the technologies developed and employed to combat this spam also in some cases throttled legitimate traffic it was around this time that we began to see the traffic to the hbd dwindling and the traffic to web based resources begin to surge the rest is as they say history frankly i miss the community that the hbd represented but i cannot say that i find myself jealous of the continued evolution of brewing on the internet the hbd list still exists the server is still running and the content generated over its 26 year run is preserved in the archives occasionally a conversation will break out on the email list and it will be alive again for a brief moment it is much like watching the dying embers of an abandoned campfire the remnant of a community that stayed awhile but had to move on some day those embers will grow cold and the hbd will blink out of existence but the vast collection of information that made the hbd what it was will i hope be preserved how apt it was ok enough pining for halcyon days of old i am still working to get the recipator back up i know it has been a long long time in the making but this is volunteer work and my personal and professional lives have been taking precedence but as got fans are used to hearing winter is coming and i am back in the us and at home after quite the long time i have a test bed set up on a local server running the same os as our vps but without the vps management software and the restrictions on root access upon which i intend to rebuild recipator to find out where it is going awry with the vps security model unfortunately or otherwise their logs are fairly useless in the meantime i am investigating other modes of throwing the recipe sharing community a bone to chew on whilst they await the freeing of their recipes from this overlong unfairly imposed imprisonment and as always if anyone knows where mark riley got off to he could probably set this ship aright in minutes relative to my futzing around with the code after all writing c is not like riding a bike and the last time i actually wrote a functioning c program was back in university more than a few decades ago not to mention that it s always more fun trying to decipher someone else s coding style cheers p posted on 25 october 2017 by pat babcock 5 comments information request for those of you who have been users of the recipator i have a question the recipator home page has links to the following what i assume to be widgets and pages hydrometer correction carbonation calculator in the brew kettle links can anyone tell me if these were functional on the old server how long ago since you remember them working the reason being the links on the old server were pretty convoluted in running down what the links suggest to be the path to these files they don t exist rather than wasting time chasing ghosts on the old box i just need to know if they were actually there please weigh in via the comments thanks pat babcock chief of janitorial services hbd inc posted on 12 june 2017 by pat babcock 13 comments tick tock my apologies to those awaiting the recipator and thank you for your patience my experience with the c programming language is decades old and unfortunately time has been very tight recently active work life and family life occasionally interfere with my volunteer life as stated in a previous post i have narrowed the issue down to the user security model of our host vs how the program was designed to execute i have replicated the site on a local machine and am s l o w l y making my way through the programs to better understand their structure and intent again thank you for your patience just wanted to pop up a status report so that you know where i m at cheers pat babcock chief of janitorial services hbd inc posted on 9 may 2017 9 may 2017 by pat babcock 9 comments posts navigation older posts site features brews and views forum the recipator hbd archives html hosted clubs hbd finances privacy policy and legal stuff clubs f o r d homebrew club mbas homebrew club nrvbg homebrew guild recent posts still kickin pesky spammers cost everyone and in the end recipator wars episode vi return of the functionality recipator wars episode iv a new hope recent comments gary smith on still kickin skotrat on still kickin forrest duddles on and in the end robin on and in the end kevin cummings on and in the end archives august 2021 september 2020 may 2020 february 2019 december 2018 may 2018 december 2017 october 2017 june 2017 may 2017 april 2017 march 2017 february 2017 january 2017 categories announcements meta log in entries feed comments feed 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