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iustuspeccator on tumblr explore communities change palette sign up log in grwm for ministry iustuspeccator seminarian queer affirming lutheran side blog i follow from the belldam ze hir or he him ask me anything follow posts pinned iustuspeccator about me this is a side blog so i don t annoy my irl friends with christian discourse lol i m joanie my identity is foremost christian and then in no particular order lutheran queer trans white usamerican also some other things but these are the perspectives i cannot speak outside of i am a second year seminarian and candidate for ministry my current ministry interests are expressions of future church life pathways to christianity for faith seekers marginalized by the church repairing harm done by the church reclaiming christianity from the american right wing and intra and interfaith ecumenism phrasing borrowed from amos yong my ongoing theological historical interests are forgiveness the judaic roots of christianity universal salvation universalism religious plurality queer theology the apostolic age patristic age and reformation this doesn t mean these are areas of expertise but rather areas of exploration and questioning i like to argue a word which here means to make reasoned statements to prove or refute an argument especially for the purpose of learning i do not like to fight i value source citation precision in language and sincerity i want to really stress again that arguing is fun for me so if i m arguing on your post and it s not fun for you just block me or if you want to continue the discussion but it s not fun let me know and i ll adjust my tone my username is a reference to martin luther s phrase simul iustus et peccator simultaneously justified and sinner to me the tradition of lutheranism gifts me a deep understand that i will sin and i will fail but that in god i have the confidence that my sin will never be the end of me it is god s grace that gives me the freedom not to hide from my mistakes but to face them and correct them thanks for reading peace be with you ps the cat in my header is patches and that s her laying on one of my bibles while i read a different one because i couldn t make her leave 3 about the author 1 43 iustuspeccator reblogged elbys hysterics demigirl in christ follow 23 60 iustuspeccator reblogged elbys hysterics luciaofsyracuse doubt is the mechanism by which faith evolves rachel held evans evolving in monkey town how a girl who knew all the answers learned to ask the questions via hymnsofheresy 1 88 97 iustuspeccator reblogged many sparrows follow yesterday was pentecost our advocate the holy ghost is out haunting the streets she is anointing the heads of her apostles and they are speaking in tongues of righteous rage of love that refuses to look away of compassion and protection christ is in the crowd overturning tables and driving out agents of greed and evil the young are having visions of what will happen if power is left unchecked and the old are dreaming dreams of justice pentecost 90 199 iustuspeccator reblogged many sparrows follow my rendition of romans 8 20 26 it is hope itself that will liberate the earth and its people from the bondage of decay and despair and into the freedom and glory of god the whole earth groans and snarls and wails as if it s a woman in labor to give birth right up until now in fact not just the earth but we also groan as we navigate this broken world and wait for something better for it is in this hope that we are saved but hope in something you have already seen and known isn t hope at all who hopes for what they already have but we wait for what we hope for but do not yet have the holy spirit helps us in our weakness even when we don t know what to pray or ask for the spirit hears lives in our groans grumbling complaining god who searches our hearts knows what we wait and hope for because the spirit unites us pentecost 9 19 iustuspeccator reblogged tellmeamiveryfar iustuspeccator follow shout out to acts 2 14 15 the funniest two verses in the bible we re not drunk it s 9am catch us at 9pm tho you know what i m saying pentecost thought about this post in church today lol glad someone already reblogged it so it was easy for me to find 28 68 iustuspeccator the american christian neighborhood quiz broke containment and is full of people going well i m not christian so this isn t accurate at all i don t understand it love and light to everyone but like did you expect to get an answer you understood in the american christianity quiz 1 7 iustuspeccator anonymous asked cant believe that quiz doesnt have a tumblr option for most used social media you know this isn t a very popular website right said with love 2 3 iustuspeccator where does your taste live american christianity quiz theodramatist what you watch read eat and listen to mapped to your nearest neighborhood on the map of american christian traditions thirty four questi theodramatist okay okay one more quiz this is your american christian denomination based on your taste in secular things and get ready because i got dead on bullseye episcopalian lmao not lutheran at all lmaooooo about the author christblr 4 103 132 iustuspeccator which reformation thinker are you constellation quiz theodramatist thirty questions about how you read pray argue and suffer plotted against forty reformation and counter reformation thinkers luther to theodramatist great news there s a reformation quiz too not familiar with osiander but i have to admit lutheran controversialist sounds like me christblr reformation about the author 28 56 iustuspeccator reblogged iscariotapologist follow my results on the which medieval theologian are you quiz btw gang s all here ohholydyke oh this gave me so much joy going through and was actually really enlightening as a semi systemic way of going through different aspects of my thought and then i got my babygirls iustuspeccator jan hus let s gooo thought for sure i d get luther but they must be considered him renaissance jan hus and john wycliffe is an extremely lutheran result about the author 111 232 iustuspeccator reblogged ohholydyke follow if i was a medieval anchoress i could write down something about the mental image of drinking from the side wound and receiving a substance that changes the body of the receiver between genders in honor of the there s no man or woman in christ of it all and olden ideas of how gender and sex worked and it would be studied and examined and held as an object of inquiry but im not a medieval anchoress i m a tumblr blogger so instead i give you haha drinking my gender fluid from the christussy call that gender affirming ecstatic visions i m deceased jokes 2 14 56 iustuspeccator reblogged ohholydyke cryptotheism follow medieval christians would have gone nuts for protons neutrons and electrons for trinity reasons sounds like a jokey oversimplification historypost but i cannot really articulate how true that is they would never shut up about it ahopefulbromantic rip st thomas aquinas you would have loved atomic physics it s true it s a little fucked up that we don t 48 4 311 7 583 iustuspeccator reblogged opinions et cetera follow ever notice how in christianity it s always about how you god forgives or jesus forgives and you should seek forgiveness from god but it s never you should seek forgiveness from those you have wronged or you should try to fix the wrongs you ve caused just a thought slitheryowl 21 then peter came to him and asked lord how often should i forgive someone who sins against me seven times 22 no not seven times jesus replied but seventy times seven 23 therefore the kingdom of heaven can be compared to a king who decided to bring his accounts up to date with servants who had borrowed money from him 24 in the process one of his debtors was brought in who owed him millions of dollars 25 he couldn t pay so his master ordered that he be sold along with his wife his children and everything he owned to pay the debt 26 but the man fell down before his master and begged him please be patient with me and i will pay it all 27 then his master was filled with pity for him and he released him and forgave his debt 28 but when the man left the king he went to a fellow servant who owed him a few thousand dollars he grabbed him by the throat and demanded instant payment 29 his fellow servant fell down before him and begged for a little more time be patient with me and i will pay it he pleaded 30 but his creditor wouldn t wait he had the man arrested and put in prison until the debt could be paid in full 31 when some of the other servants saw this they were very upset they went to the king and told him everything that had happened 32 then the king called in the man he had forgiven and said you evil servant i forgave you that tremendous debt because you pleaded with me 33 shouldn t you have mercy on your fellow servant just as i had mercy on you 34 then the angry king sent the man to prison to be tortured until he had paid his entire debt 35 that s what my heavenly father will do to you if you refuse to forgive your brothers and sisters from your heart from matthew chapter 18 nlt message is pretty clear imo opinions et cetera ok so the evil servant didn t forgive his own servant s debts and got his ass whooped for not extending the forgiveness granted to him ok but what if it isn t a debtor situation but a victim situation would a victim be required to forgive their abuser regardless of what kind of abuse happened if the trauma is too much for them to forgive them or if the abuser does not care should a victim be forced to just forgive their abuser and not seek justice iustuspeccator hi i saw this through a different reblog and saw your question in the tags i m a lutheran seminarian and i took a class recently that was basically entirely over this question i hope you don t mind me jumping in first off there are absolutely christian communities where the concept of forgiveness is abused and religion is used to browbeat victims into forgiveness where they just remain in abusive situations this is also how our secular culture broadly defines forgiveness as not seeking justice or remaining in a situation that causes you harm and we have strong inclinations in our secular culture as well not to seek justice in a lot of situations especially if it happened within a family and there are places where christianity makes that worse and i would really hesitate to say that there s any places where christianity makes it better except in the class i took we worked with theological writings on the subject as well as sources from psychology and from a secular peacebuilding perspective all of these fields operate on an essentially different definition of forgiveness forgiveness isn t necessarily the forgoing of justice or continuing a relationship forgiveness is release of the debt charge harm that enables the victim s return to subjectivity this is the victim s ability to see themselves as whole to not define themself as a victim and to psychologically and emotionally heal it s not something you can require of someone it s something that people achieve over time with support you can forgive and seek justice you can forgive someone and refuse to reconcile with them reconciliation is a separate process from forgiveness that might not sound permitted in this passage but if we go back a little to matthew 18 15 17 we have a really famous set of verses on christian living essentially matthew s guide to resolving church conflict it starts with tell your brother he has sinned in private if he doesn t listen get witnesses if he still doesn t listen go before the church your local congregation this is pre institutional christianity and if he still doesn t listen let him be to you as a gentile and a tax collector so while 18 21 35 might seem to tell us that we have to let people keep transgressing against us no matter how much it hurts us 18 15 17 just gave us permission to break ties with the unrepentant in matthew not everyone is your brother or sister this is intracommunal advice i don t think christianity has like a strong grasp on this necessarily but it s also something really complicated that doesn t have easy answers as a survivor of violence i m really committed to the definition of forgiveness that i offered above seeking justice doesn t heal victims in and of itself forgiveness and the return to subjectivity are absolutely essential for victims of abuse to heal regardless of whether you look at it from a secular or a religious standpoint so i wouldn t ever say a victim is required to forgive instead of seek justice but i always want to be clear that forgiveness is a benefit to the victim not the perpetrator much more i could say but this is already too long discourse christblr forgiveness justice and reconciliation i basically want to talk about this all the time 12 19 iustuspeccator reblogged ohholydyke fnordseer5 follow oh the wifi password yeah it s the nicene creed in its entirety freebroccoli spends 15 minutes painstakingly typing the creed in its entirety password is incorrect remembers that my host is orthodox rewrites entire creed but without the filioque 1 1 411 2 405 iustuspeccator reblogged ohholydyke demigirl in christ follow 205 405 iustuspeccator reblogged savedbutch bebemoon there is a place called heaven where the good here unfinished is completed and where the stories unwritten and the hopes unfulfilled are continued we may laugh together yet j r r tolkien 1 15 819 10 369 you are using an unsupported browser and things might not work as intended please make sure you re using the latest version of chrome firefox safari or edge