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john perform under a starry sky a year before our meeting at mars his shades affixed in the twilight he spun out a lugubrious though transcendental waterfall of sound staring up into the firmament i was startled by a melodic line suddenly remembered amid fahey s hypnotic whorl it was o holy night a christmas carol played on that hot july evening dislocated in time it was all the more relevant its unsung words echoing my own thought the stars are brightly shining andy beta january 2006 posted by stephen at 10 39 3 comments thursday the mystery of the turtle ii was it withdrawn one of the aspects of the turtle saga that has supplied surprisingly fertile ground for research is the claim that the album was withdrawn early in its existence due to the cost of producing the wonderful but very lavish gatefold sleeve which was then replaced by the fairly minimal single one this is clearly incorrect since the full gatefold remained available until circa 1977 but there may be an element of truth to it adding to the mystery was this quote from fahey in a 1969 interview with melody maker but there was one we had to withdraw because we were losing 30 cents on each one it had photographs a book and a double cover we didn t know how much it was going to cost but some of it was bad anyway when i first saw that quote i assumed that fahey was confused since the only album that had been withdrawn so far as i was aware was the curious early sessions double lp however fahey was astonishingly specific and was clearly referring to turtle a further explanation became apparent recently however when i acquired a pressing of turtle that dates from 1967 six months or more ahead of the album s release it appears that no sleeve was printed up at that point but here are the labels on the actual disc the most obvious thing worthy of comment here is that the track listings are exactly the same as those of the eventual sleeve so no bean vine blues 2 the train is not little and the question of whether the train could or couldn t isn t asked let alone answered the record itself is the 11 track version thus matching the information contained in the eventual sleeve s booklet this leaves one obvious conclusion that the label listings on the 1968 release specifically bean vine blues 1 and 2 were deliberately intended to conceal the existence of the two different versions also the possibility as yet unconfirmed that the withdrawal actually took place in 1967 well ahead of the album s eventual appearance posted by stephen at 10 15 3 comments labels turtle monday four unique fonotone lps these are labels for four 12 fonotone lps produced as a set and almost certainly entirely unique here s the original owner s account of how he obtained them i wrote to joe bussard jr in the early 1980s and i asked him if he still had the early john fahey recordings for sale he wrote back that yes he was still offering them on cassette i wrote again and told him i really would rather have records and he wrote that he could make me a set of 78 rpm acetate singles but i didn t want 7 records and i certainly didn t want anything that played at 78 rpm i asked him if he could cut me 12 lps at 33 and he refused to do it i waited a year or so and i wrote him again by then he had the guitar solo s lp acetate available and i bought one it sounded great which made me want the other tracks on 12 lp even more so i asked him again he told me he d never custom made 12 discs to order for anyone ever because cutting full lps by hand was a lot of trouble i wrote him back right away and told him that i d pay him whatever he asked but i had to have lps i think it was another year before we closed the deal but finally we agreed on a price and he sent the four lps he enclosed a note with them that said i can t believe how difficult it was to make these i will never do this again for any amount of money so are these discs unique oh i have no doubt that they are i chose the songs that i wanted from his master list and the order i wanted them in and he cut the acetates he custom made these lps for me and told me flat out that he would never do it again for anybody posted by stephen at 11 11 13 comments labels fonotone saturday the fonotone catalog pages from two fonotone catalogs listing the fahey material joe bussard had to offer at that point joe bussard as always at fonotone typed these with an elderly typewriter the 10 and 12 guitar solo s titles unknown are no longer available on the second list posted by stephen at 16 12 no comments tuesday upcoming i must apologise for my relative silence here over the summer although i have certainly not been ignoring the blog rather giving my time to research as a consequence i should shortly be posting both mystery of the turtle ii and blind joe death transfigured iii they will contain a lot of additional information particularly the post related to vott i also have a biography of riverboat ralph nearing completion due to internet access problems i am not in a position to add further downloads at present hopefully this will be resolved soon and normal service will resume in the meantime thanks for bearing with me posted by stephen at 15 05 no comments thursday death chants the 1967 recordings when fahey re recorded his first two albums in 1967 it was because of dissatisfaction with various aspects of the recording quality with the earlier versions rather than any intention to release them in stereo although the commercial realities of the record market meant that stereo mixes were made the following year one does not have to be a purist to recognise the inadequacies of the stereo versions with their absurdly exaggerated separation on headphones they sound less like one exceptional guitar player than two decent ones engaged in some bizarre guitar playing equivalent of synchronised swimming possibly intentionally they mock the audiophile pretensions of the record buyer only prepared to buy stereo those 1967 mono versions were of course withdrawn after scarcely a year and have never been available since given that they sound so considerably superior to the stereo mixes it is disappointing that fantasy didn t elect to use the mono masters when they put out their cd reissue it was not for nothing that those 1967 records had stickers boasting that they had been recorded in magnificent mono so here are those 1967 mono recordings for death chants note the titles spanish dance and take a look at that baby had their respective tunes swapped between the 1963 and 1967 releases i have left the titles and music here as they appear on the record in the interests of historical truth you can of course reverse the titles and maybe the sequence if you prefer as with the later 1968 cover the sleeve reverses the sides for the listings and omits take a look at that baby entirely posted by stephen at 08 19 14 comments friday mayne smith mayne smith who contributed banjo and kazoo at fahey s delta sessions in 1965 has a new cd about to be released places i ve been a songmaker s retrospective to mark the event he is appearing at the freight salvage in berkeley friday june 20th i get quite a few visitors from the bay area and you may well want to get tickets for what looks like a good night posted by stephen at 11 32 no comments blind joe death transfigured ii l mayne smith i like to think that one or two regular visitors here still have an interest in my transfigured piece even if it may appear to have stalled it hasn t it just seems to have a mind of it s own and keeps on growing i have recently been in touch with mayne smith who of course played as l mayne smith at what are known as the delta sessions and he has been very patient in answering all my questions while his comments will obviously feed into my own analysis i know that they will be of broader interest so i m posting them here largely as is fahey and i and barry hansen popularly known today as doctor demento to la radio fans used to hang out together occasionally we were all students at the folklore center at ucla mark levine on guitar and i on dobro were part of a band we called creatively the bluegrass band which also contained three members of the dry city scat band then recently dissolved these others were dick hargreaves bass richard greene fiddle and soon to join bill monroe s band and david lindley this band performed once or twice at the ashgrove in the summer of 1965 i have a photo of us on stage there then the band dissolved i do have vague memories of a recording session at bob riskin s house bob was a person of some authority at mccabe s guitar shop in santa monica and he had a cool place up in one of the canyons in the santa monica mountains it may have been topanga riskin i learned later was the son of fay wray who played the pretty blonde befriended by the original king kong bob also recorded a demo session for me around this time playing a few of my own new compositions accompanied by ry cooder who was about 18 years old at the time i may also mention that i had taken myself somewhat seriously as a banjo player seeger style then old time two finger and three finger styles before gravitating to the role of lead and tenor singer and flat pick rhythm guitarist in the bluegrass pattern in the year of 1965 my article an introduction to bluegrass appeared in the journal of american folklore vol 78 1965 245 256 the first bona fide academic treatment of bluegrass music the author credit was to l mayne smith my legal first name is loyd which i dropped entirely after i left academia a few years later bob riskin had a good reel to reel ampex tape recorder model 600 that would record at 15 ips a step or three up from my wolensak we played in a wide open livingroom area with no acoustic padding or anything else to keep out dog barking etc my mental image says it was dark outside although i knew that some tunes from the riskin sessions were released on fahey s records i don t recall the specific music we played except that i played the banjo with a flat pick in what i thought of as a simple early new orleans style i had forgotten about any use of kazoos and that mark levine was also involved i asked about fahey s description of the session in the voice of the turtle notes there is some relation to my memories in what fahey says about topanga canyon and riskin barrett mansen is clearly barry hansen barry identified himself to the world as a collector of obscure records particularly 45 rpm rhythm and blues and was emphatically not an entrepreneur or brewery owner mark s interest in bluegrass does have a tinge of reality about it the lacy filigree comment is wholly gratuitous particularly in relation to the ultra simple style i was playing on that session levine and i on the other hand were deliberately studying how to play rhythmic back up and may deserve some credit for that i asked about the delta haze recording company and any possible involvement of ed denson i have no memory of any talk about specific record labels i don t think i would remember if there had been any i don t think i knew that fahey had anything to do with ed denson and i m not sure i knew anything of denson at that time four or five years later mitch greenhill and i were in a band called frontier which was managed for a while by denson who also at the time managed country joe and the fish and the joy of cooking we were all centered about the sf bay area at that time after listening to texas and pacific blues and train the texas cut is a blatant re hash of the well known blues corrina corrina and if that s me on lead kazoo i hear nothing original in it that does sound like me on the banjo pretty much in the style i remember playing at john s request on learning that he had been given a composer credit for beautiful linda getchell if i deserve any composer credit for getchell i don t remember the tune or my contribution to it after hearing getchell and come back baby linda getchall immediately struck me as a variant of the fingerpicked waltz i knew as spanish fandango the flat picked banjo was probably me it would have been easy for me to do since i was thoroughly familiar with the tune incidentally the banjo has a suspended 4th figure in it that reminds me that fahey and i on opposite sides of the usa shared exposure to the hymnody of the episcopal church which is quite evident in his improvisations come back baby has a similar rhythm banjo sound so it may have been me on the other hand the single string work up the neck is so good i have some doubts that it was me but i may have been better back then than i recall so if fahey credited me i ll take his word for it the melody and modality of this blues tune was also familiar to me at the time let s talk it over one more time obviously my thanks to mayne for patiently answering all my questions this provides another picture of a session that still arouses a lot of interest i was amused to see that barking dogs had obviously left some sort of impression even after all these years since mayne had never heard transfiguration so wouldn t have known about the dog s cameo on the record posted by stephen at 10 46 no comments labels transfiguration saturday voice of the turtle the earliest pressings since it settles quite a few debates here are pictures of the original 1968 black silver labelled copies of voice of the turtle these show that both the eleven and twelve track pressings existed from the off neither of these is easy to find although i suspect that serious collectors will want both original 11 track pressing side 1 has 5 tracks original 12 track pressing side 1 has 6 tracks for more discussion of the complex history of this album or to add any comment please see my earlier post the mystery of the turtle these pictures have been included in that post i ve put them here as well to highlight the update please add any comment to the mystery of the turtle post rather than here posted by stephen at 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