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eve at the time 1 he thought he was teleporting in on his own notice how he bombed out of the later scene on his own and it took him a second to notice that the door was functioning both ways i e properly 2 lamia went off to lick her wounds she d had a very very weird day stick will the harley quinn midnighter root river tam version of cassandra be back midnighter nice catch hey she s still in there somewhere anonymous when will this loose group ever become a team by now i expected more cohesiveness and character development by episode 5 nah for me the whole point of the show is to slow play the evolution of the relationships and character development people change slowly let s live in that for a while that way you feel more like you ve earned those relationships in later seasons and you haven t burned through emotional arcs so fast that you re resorting to soap opera contortions in s4 rhea lee i was wondering who hid the apple in the pearl when flynn showed up at the conclave as his evil self dulaque seemed to be surprised at him acting out of character so it looked like his plan didn t involve saddling the librarians with the apple was the apple there at the vatican for a long time quietly waiting for a victim that is a mystery lost to time but that effect was probably why the dragons found it fascinating collectible dan 1 did kane actively petition to be this show s hardison re stone s relationship with cassie 2 were the different eye colors a conscious nod to green lantern or did it simply come about as a means of providing a visual cue to the audience when someone was possessed by the apple 3 flynn s clothes in the pilot were in my humble opinion quite similar to the clothes worn by the tenth eleventh and eighth doctors the white suit this week reminded me of the fifth doctor any chance we ll see flynn in a velvet opera cape insanely long scarf or question mark jumper before the season is over 4 not really a question about the episode but is it too soon to start looking for info about a potential dvd release of the first season 1 i don t see that relationship as a parallel but eh it s your show as much as mine but no this is all us exploring character space in season one 2 not a reference to green lantern but indeed a reference to each of the characters sins using references from classical sources we matched colors to stone was lust cassandra wrath baird envy and flynn pride 3 that s more a coincidence honestly that when you try to go quirky slightly dated look for a thin guy your costumers run into the same space the white suit was a callback to the third librarian movie not a dr who reference 4 we already have the dvd commentary dates booked wilderebellion what happened to those japanese 20somethings from the beginning did the dragon scare their pants off or were they his evening snack they did indeed escape nobody believes their story well almost nobody a secret kaiju task force was sent to investigate the area neil jasper cassie s transformation when she was holding the apple seemed much darker than the other characters stone flynn and baird all changed in ways that were bad but made sense for each one stone s artistic snobbery flynn s desire to wield the library s magical power rather than taking responsibility for it baird s will to make other people follow orders the worst possible version of cassie seemed to have a desire to kill and cause widespread destruction for its own sake which seemed quite a shift from her normal nature if the changes are all dark reflections of the character s personality what should we draw from this about cassie she comes across as somewhat innocent but twice now she s shown that she s not averse to changing the world for millions of people to suit her needs or desires i think twice is not quite right she didn t know the full extent of the magical world stakes when she cut her deal with the serpent brotherhood the first time and she was convinced that they were going to help people after all even some fans of the show are saying that it doesn t seem right for the library to lock up knowledge congratulations that s lamia s point of view as to her worst possible version i think the thing to focus on is more about how her potential was thwarted and you hear more about this later and she felt powerless that s what was acting out that said if we go more seasons cassandra relationship to power is going to be an interesting thing to watch we can discuss this more after tonight and the science fair episode kevin i m having a hard time suspending my disbelief that stone would crack heads over differing opinions of interpretations of art flynn eve would take over the world cassandra would kill as a byproduct and ezekiel basically would do no worst than what he is everyday he must be a saint that gets up on the wrong side of the bed everyday just put me traffic and remove my inhibition and the results wouldn t be good am i right is this foreshadowing or purely comedy ezekiel has very few inhibitions it s almost as if we re laying some thematic pipe about the thief being the most spiritually advanced anonymous is the librarians going to be available on netflix or hulu it doesn t look to be streaming currently i m going through the other comments but haven t seen it mentioned unfortunately tnt s website won t allow me to watch online because my service provider doesn t participate support the online viewing or something unfortunately those options will not open up until later in the year sorry not our decision on that one thea 1 out of curiosity is there a chance we ll get to know eve s middle name this season 2 eve s come back alive librarian recurred in this episode it s their thing right but i do hope it s not a foreshadowing i really took a liking to how her relationship with flynn works and they re making the most out of their brand of normal 3 her hair seems to be more relaxed as the episodes go by from the neat bun now she s letting it free more often sort of her getting more acquainted with the whole magic exists even if you don t know it and in sync with her lits 1 she doesn t have one 2 you may be upset at some point during the year 3 as noted above kind of yes david b 1 with the break neck speed of development this show had how much world building bible did you guys get down before writing so you wouldn t cross important wires and how much did you just wing having a formalized structure and established monster courts is a good gag but it also drops some pretty big facts about the universe is that a this is how things work and we re just hinting at the tip of the iceberg decision or a yeah that s great and we ll worry about elves in season 2 2 did the western dragons capture the apple of discord themselves maybe during the trojan war or was that a plant and part of du lac s plan 3 did the roman dragon have a name if so mind telling also nice on having the flame reflected in the eye that s a great detail 1 we spent a chunk of time coming up with a loose magical history philosophy so we know what s consistent in the library verse but we left ourselves lots of room to improvise we are indeed kind of just exploring seeing how the world opens up as we write for some bits but other sections of the magic world we ve locked in its about 50 50 2 the plant was part of dulaque s plan 3 his name is owned by another company amber 1 are jenkins and dulaque brothers i was getting the vibe that they were brothers or at least they used to be good friends especially at the end 2 is jake stone going to learn to fight i loved seeing kane in leverage and his fight scenes are great 3 is the yellow rain coat that flynn is wearing the same one that hardison is wearing in the miracle job i just watched that episode a little bit ago and thought it looked familiar 1 they were very close 2 as a matter of fact yes it s a s2 plot point and there s one moment in s1 well spoiler 3 i ll ask it may well be shelley 1 fun to see cassandra use math for evil i love mathematics even though i don t understand a lot of it it s always great to see smart people i thought it was a bit sad really that ezekiel is the worst version of himself are there plans to redeem the character over the course of the series or is he the anti hero 2 will the dvd release be the extended versions of the episodes or the televised ones hoping for extended versions 3 when does tnt announce series renewals i seem to remember they were usually late april maybe the show seems to be getting great ratings from what i ve been reading so i hope to see news on season two soon 1 ezekiel would be very hurt that you feel he needs to be redeemed as as you ll see from tonight it s probably best he s not 2 extended 3 whenever they want all joking aside we should know in the next two months or so maybe christina s poilers for 101 102 while watching the extended versions on itunes i was taken aback by what was chosen to cut i felt cheated had you not mentioned extended cuts were on itunes i would have a different opinion on the main characters then i do now the conversations jake had in the bar about his dad cassandra had with jake about the last time her parents had been proud of her as being when she was 12 baird had with ezekial about his other fbi file and ezekial s comment about why he is a thief provide layers of info about them and explain a bit about their personalities that were missing for me up until i saw that it s like jake is obligated to work the family business ezekial may not only steal for fun and profit and cassie feels like an outcast in her own family i didn t take any of that away on my tnt broadcast viewing to my questions 1 who gets to decide what gets cut 2 is it some arbitrary number you must cut 8 min and you just try to remove what makes the most sense 3 does it happen at a higher level of production where the decision what to cut is made and you have to roll with it 1 3 dean and i decide what to cut and we cut things because 2 41 30 that s how long each broadcast episode is and even though we got a bit more time for the pilot about a minute and a half more that number is a hard out commercials kids that s the way it goes we must hit that number full stop so the stuff that gets cut is anything which will not break the logic chain of the episode a particularly ugly problem we faced too was having to push all the charlene material some of which was originally in 102 into 101 for contract reasons which gutted a lot of that character work out of the 1st episode two more factors complicated things a new show so we didn t know what page count paced out to the right running length each show is highly idiosyncratic leverage for example paced out to 50 55 pages per script and anything even close to 50 ran short librarians we realized about three scripts in paces out to 48 50 pages per episode we wrote long and shot long for the first few b different directors wind up giving you slightly different runtimes with the same page count dean does these beautiful one take scenes but it s difficult to cut out of them so you need to write to that roksin and frakes shoot different dialogue paces different coverage and cutting patterns videobeagle from 101 102 wouldn t the contents of a law book are public domain wouldn t the specific printing of it be copyrighted like a specific printing of the bible or a performance of a mozart piece or are law books printed as as public domain objects in and of themselves fuzzy enough that nobody cares or at least lawyers don t care what s the basis for that lawsuit bluehex two questions 1 one about the episode the goodbye between dulaque and jenkins plus jenkins s obvious distress throughout the episode seem to strongly hint at a previous romantic relationship good catch or was i completely brainwashed by the internet and see things that are not there 2 second question is about the fireaxe it was emphasized quite a bit in promo photos videos to the point of becoming somewhat iconic however not a glimpse of it in the show itself should i look forward to the axe making an appearance even a cameo would do or was it just a prop for a prop s sake in the promos 1 they were close 2 the axe appears in tonight s episode you ll note cassandra s holding a skull in some of the promos and ezekiel a ray gun which he never wields in the show the nice promo people who did a pretty great job with the show were just playing around with tones and props chelseanh 1 it would be nice to see a fleeing boy fall down for once 2 hopefully stone will express an appreciation for classical music and even gasp opera hating on opera must be easy because everybody does it 3 since i ve actually visited portland i hope to see some familiar locations powell s is probably too hard to arrange but the rose test garden is cool portland is the rose city and the japanese garden is lovely 1 minotaur ep like three weeks ago we re equal opportunity stumblers 2 i don t think appreciating the classics in one artistic form necessarily extends to another ezekiel on the other hand 3 we ve been trying to get into the japanese garden for years the main problem is the parking is too nightmarish to get the production trucks in place we will endevour to bring you more quirky corners of the city lisa king does the desk resetting mean that flynn is about to return and the annex is getting things ready for him at the risk of spoilers i will say the desk is more a clue about baird than flynn cara b 1 it seemed like cassandra s darkest side was kill all the things i know that she said it was because she wanted to practically apply the theories constantly flying around her brain but was there a little bit of revenge in there like the world never took me seriously so there also i was a huge fan to see her go so dark i hope that we see it again and that it won t be so easily turned off i d love to see everyone try and deal with it 2 travel well was a super odd phrase especially since jenkins makes it a point to stay in the annex is it a hint re what s to come as in are we going to see jenkins having to make another one of those choices that he talked about and or was it a jab at one of the last conversations that the pair had 3 can we get more ezekiel jenkins please 4 at some point before this you mentioned that there was a group of folks who was in charge of making the magical confines in which objects were are held would they have any answers for flynn and co re the library s whereabouts more importantly will we ever meet them 5 during the writer s vlog for this episode you briefly showed two of the boards the following assumes that they weren t meant to mislead the characters seemed to be on n s and e w continuums with baird being on the structured end and ezekiel being the complete opposite since stone and cassandra are in the middle with no real indication either way are they the neutrals of the group or will we see them head in a certain direction 1 cassandra has a...