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christians are conquered subjugated extorted islamic law specifies certain regulations i quote from reliance of the traveller book o o11 5 are distinguished from muslims in dress wearing a wide cloth belt zunnar are not greeted with as salamu alaykum must keep to the side of the street may not build higher than or as high as the muslims buildings though if they acquire a tall house it is not razed are forbidden to openly display wine or pork a to ring church bells or display crosses recite the torah or evangel aloud or make public display of their funerals and feastdays and are forbidden to build new churches freedom of religion includes the right to abandon or change faith islam denies it islamic law prescribes the death penalty for apostasy from islam o8 1 when a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from islam he deserves to be killed o8 2 in such a case it is obligatory for the caliph a or his representive to ask him to repent and return to islam if he does it is accepted from him but if he refuses he is immediately killed do muslim clerics really agree that jewish christian prophets should not be mocked or ridiculed how can they come to such an agreement when muhammad co opted them claiming that abraham moses jesus were muslims i will bypass many subordinate arguments that can be made and get right down to the bottom line islam co opts jesus christ as a genocidal warmonger lest you doubt this i have proof 61 14 o you who believe be you helpers in the cause of allah as said iesa jesus son of maryam mary to al hawariun the disciples who are my helpers in the cause of allah al hawarieen the disciples said we are allah s helpers i e we will strive in his cause then a group of the children of israel believed and a group disbelieved so we gave power to those who believed against their enemies and they became the uppermost there is your first hint go to quranbrowser com and search for helpers see the context in which it is used moe made prophetic statements several of which are recorded in the tradition of his companions one prophecy is critical to this issue abu dawud book 37 number 4310 narrated abuhurayrah the prophet peace_be_upon_him said there is no prophet between me and him that is jesus peace_be_upon_him he will descent to the earth when you see him recognise him a man of medium height reddish fair wearing two light yellow garments looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet he will fight the people for the cause of islam he will break the cross kill swine and abolish jizyah allah will perish all religions except islam he will destroy the antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die the muslims will pray over him he will fight the people for the cause of islam break the cross kill swine what is the meaning of the last to phrases which seem too cryptic to interpret the next sentence contains the clue we need to unlock the secret allah will perish all religions except islam break the cross is a code phrase for killing the remaining christians kill swine is a code phrase for killing the remaining jews but of course i must be mis translating mis interpreting twisting perverting and inventing meaning where none exists yeah right and the muslims along with isa son of mary will kill the jews that is from ibn kathir s tafsir of 7 167 ibn kathir spent his life studying islamic texts his tafsir is considered authentic either the muslim participants in the forum are contradicting allah his messenger and abandoning islam or their affirmation of freedom of conscience and respect for founding figures is insincere which is it click this link for a common word between us and you which precipitated the recent meetings note the events section a recent addition to the page a common word s home page includes a summary the missive media reports blog posts and various responses from christian jewish leaders click this link islamic extortion letter for my original dissection of the missive or this link go burn with muhammad a blog devoted to dissecting the missive and reactions to it filed under 3 85 61 14 7 167 abu dawud book 37 bukhari 3 39 531 bukhari 4 52 288 number 4310 reliance of the traveller comments off on instruments of love and harmony 6 instruments of love and harmony 5 posted on december 13 2008 by dajjal from zenit org comes final statement of catholic muslim forum called to be instruments of love and harmony for background information about the meetings see this reuters article of 11 06 08 the statement includes an enumerated list of fifteen points which present a target rich environment in this installment i ll take on the fifth point of agreement links emphasis added genuine love of neighbour implies respect of the person and her or his choices in matters of conscience and religion it includes the right of individuals and communities to practice their religion in private and public taken at face value the fifth point means that the muslims participating in the meeting accept the concept of freedom of religion by so doing they would sever themselves from allah and become apostates allah said whoever seeks a religion other than islam it will never be accepted of him and in the hereafter he will be one of the losers 3 85 allah said truly the religion with allah is islam on his deathbed moe said expel the pagans from the arabian peninsula bukhari 4 52 288 caliph umar subsequently expeled the jews bukhari 3 39 531 as if that was insufficient proof of intolerance we have allah s commands to fight until only allah is worshiped and jews christians are subjugated and extorted in three ayat allah declares that islam must be made to dominate other religions to make it superior over all religions that he may make it islam superior over all religions to make it victorious over all other religions the right to believe and practice as you choose is obviated by allah s commands to fight disbelievers once jews christians are conquered subjugated extorted islamic law specifies certain regulations i quote from reliance of the traveller book o o11 5 are distinguished from muslims in dress wearing a wide cloth belt zunnar are not greeted with as salamu alaykum must keep to the side of the street may not build higher than or as high as the muslims buildings though if they acquire a tall house it is not razed are forbidden to openly display wine or pork a to ring church bells or display crosses recite the torah or evangel aloud or make public display of their funerals and feastdays and are forbidden to build new churches freedom of religion includes the right to abandon or change faith islam denies it islamic law prescribes the death penalty for apostasy from islam o8 1 when a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from islam he deserves to be killed o8 2 in such a case it is obligatory for the caliph a or his representive to ask him to repent and return to islam 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