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palestine israel cannot work why because these two states cannot rule the same geographically contested region and it is all contested that it might possibly be able to is an idea which fundamentally misunderstands and overestimates the real power of a state apparatus and the source of that power which chiefly does not exist in human will democracy and elections but in economics and the class struggle this mistaken idea of the state and its power often leads to incredulous frustration at the ineffectiveness of the state or indeed any state or the supra state institutions to solve these problems no matter how urgent they are and in spite of the fact that we think of the democratic state as a personification of the peoples will and presume that this should prevail with all its good intentions two states can only have a small hope of being successful in this case by dividing up the contested region geographically into separate contiguous areas that are governed by the different states so essentially two distinct nations are formed side by side this is of course very simple easy to imagine but it has no current chance of happening at all in the current palestine israel theatre the long term problem is as stated precisely the contested land and that two distinct geographical areas do not exist and they are in any case resisted by the dominant economic power in the region israel does a dominant capitalist power ever voluntarily give up its profitable gains if it can help it a lot is often said about the 1967 borders as if those would magically solve things but they are already inadequate for palestine dividing it up into separate components with borders governed by israel which de facto have already formed the basis for the occupation and are useless for independent trade imports or exports the israeli state is based on its economic forces as is the palestinian both are capitalist israel s strong economy is however backed chiefly by the might of the us capitalist economy palestine has some rich arab nations as apparent friends and ethnic partners but many feel unstable as ruling classes and themselves rely on the us for much of their protection from their own working classes for the us and the west israel is a western entity within a region strategically important to it mainly because of the fossil fuel resources and their effect on the global market states arise upon an economic base the strongest economic forces create their state in a territory based in the need and desire for the dominant class to maintain their rule in the end by force if two distinct ethnic ruling class powers within a single land are unequal in these terms then the poorer economic force will not be able to sustain a state for it will automatically be subsumed by the stronger state and its class struggle because the stronger state derives from the stronger economic base as implied already the only way a single land could be shared by two states is if the two sides were relatively equal as economic powers but even if this became possible it would likely still fall into conflict because any state as a capitalist force understands these resources are finite and to be fought for if they are not owned universally to get to a stage where there is a respect for sharing such resources is obviously pie in the sky an ideal but such a single state also cannot happen here because of the deep religious differences it is clear that a single state that is secular and modern that could embrace both israel and palestine in religious terms in the same region must be preferable to what exists but many various imperialist actors involved on both sides of the conflict do not want this because it would need a certain amount of socialism and class struggle that is unacceptable to their strategic economic interests in general the western world is experiencing a slow but exponentially rising political tide of nazification that we can see particularly well at the moment arising in this conflict the term nazification was used by putin but it is not wrong because of that the too enthusiastic western support for ukraine nazi battalions the tacit support for israel s series of war crimes against a caged and occupied civilian people in the gaza strip the gross hypocrisy of challenging one occupation as a war crime russia but supporting another israel the prevention of a ceasefire and the continuation of bombing trapped civilians including a high proportion of children us president biden calling the deaths of over 400 people in the gaza hospital blast the work of the other team is this not an entirely inappropriate and belittling phrase for such a terrible event and strangely disconnected from reality this all normalises things that hitherto would have been at least in this open way unthinkable certainly russia and israel are not equivalent but both ethnic groups lost very many people during wwii against the german nazis and so multiple questions cascade as to why we must think of one occupation so differently to the other is it that a democracy may commit war crimes but others not partly i fear it has something to do with how the dominant news media can continue to report on both conflicts the special military operation in ukraine and the expanded ground operation in gaza with any credibility moral or rational look at the language israel has the right to defend itself this is of course correct but does this not also mean the palestinian people have this right to defend themselves over the recent years their situation as an oppressed and occupied people has simply been ignored by the media let us be clear this occupation is not benign it represents continuing decades long violence at a low simmering level by the israeli state if hamas representatives of gaza a part of the palestinian ruling class currently have chosen an extreme way to express the defence of blockaded gaza one that includes killing civilians the war crime of hostage taking and the use of human shields this is a war crime yes but we must recognise this is happening within an existing war crime against palestinians this is not to be used as an excuse but it is not as simple as biden suggested in his recent speech to the us nation that it is mere neighbour on neighbour violence and antisemitism by hamas because the gaza palestinians could be regarded also as hostages so hostages who have taken hostages the violence of the hamas attack is a violent extreme event in a long line of extreme violence in this conflict which has a history but the media begins where it wishes to so as to frame the events for the ruling classes and to more easily and readily describe who is the evil to the masses the gaza population as such becomes the universal perpetrators of evil even being associated with the nazis of wwii but let us carry this logic onward if the palestinians are entirely responsible for hamas and evil because they elected them then logic would dictate that the german people would also have been responsible for the holocaust and are therefore also evil forever for such evil derives from mystical essences that do not live or die in flesh and blood like us they are timeless this is of course not taken as being the case for germany in current accepted political discourse reflecting how usually we do not consider democracy to function so perfectly that it really represents people or their interests very well if at all which is especially true in an occupied territory you would think yet the far right israeli leaders justify their bombing of gaza by this exact claim the gazan people elected terrorists actually it was surprisingly quickly that the west was able to forget the gross war crimes and crimes against humanity of the german nazis and carry on with business as usual anyway this twisted logic is a tactic that is beginning to expect and prepare for the genocide of palestinians who represent among other things to the current israeli leaders a thorn in the flesh of their capital expansion that capital seeks to expand in such a region in such a way is not surprising also i think due to some unique and broader factors operating today that you can notice a major one is the backlash in bourgeois ideology and aesthetics to the two recent global economic crises plus the global pandemic which necessitated certain socialist style measures for the protection of people this rebound is happening in tandem with the rise of the new crisis of capital i suggest it is this effect that has helped push the nazification process to this extreme in other words it is a kind of inflation of the powers of the superstructure and state and its enforcement to a crazed degree perhaps even more so because it always feels its own lack of power over civil society and that it must compensate for this lack by going to ever greater lengths re the two standing ovations given by the canadian parliament to a nazi recently this is a sign of this tendency in an article in the guardian by jonothan freedland warning benjamin netanyahu is walking right into hamas s trap 21 10 23 it notes netanyahu s personal role contributing to generating this conflict and how the poorly condition of the israeli state and its current political culture has led to israelis seeing him as culpable for the conflagration due partly to his past hands off policy towards hamas what it also points to but which is not openly mentioned is how the interplay between the two ruling class factions of hamas and likud engenders a kind of hellish mutually assured need to stay in power as institutions by always ramping up the stakes and the violence this is not a sign of evil essences at work but of class struggle and institutional strategic opportunism and profit seeking and this is tacitly understood by the ruling class participants in this mundane struggle obviously israeli citizens understand this situation much better than most foreign politicians surveys point to this who seem blind to it and line up to show visible support for netanyahu helping cement his position but because his power seems likely to end after the conflict ends and he faces the music his interest is of course to prolong the conflict indefinitely or to take it to such an extreme level that there is a chaos in which everything becomes blurred and upended this therefore reveals what the big capitalist world powers must want not any real resolution of the problem in any real two state solution but a continual diminishing of any prospect of progressive class struggle in the region a stasis forever no better example perhaps than the peculiar timing of the hamas attack on israel which comes when israeli social protests have been strong against the far right ruling factions this is a sign that israel society is becoming mature and more normalised in terms of its internal class system and struggle this is also under attack but this in its turn tells us that it is this class struggle that offers some hope even in the midst of this terrible nightmare posted by gary tedman at 1 40 pm no comments labels gaza palestine state superstructure monday october 18 2021 police muitny the police work for the state and in theory for the people they claim they serve and protect the organized police lobbies pretending to be a unions make demands and acts as if they can defy the state that pays them and dismiss the welfare of the public when it suits them we know many of the departments and unions have been infiltrated by white supremacist and fascist groups which have ideologies that support anti science and police state views the state vaccination mandates are based on science and promote the general health and well being of the american people those police who refuse to follow the lawful orders of the state in this regard i e who engage in mutiny should be summarily dismissed if a shortage of police protection results the state should call for and screen a popular people s militia to replace them re street patrols this would involve paying the citizens of the local communities in which they live for policing themselves and democratically selecting the militia officers to carry out the policing function this is what would be done by any progressive democratically elected progressive local or state government faced with a police mutiny this is what the people should demand and demand of their elected representatives and what the ccds cpusa dsa psl wwp and all other groups claiming to be socialist should demand nytimes com across the u s clashes intensify between city officials and the police over vaccination issues officers in many departments have been slow to get v posted by thomas riggins at 4 05 pm no comments saturday september 18 2021 pentagon s tragic mistake tragic mistake indeed this is par for the course with us drone strikes the pentagon spent a week trying to justify this mistake the only reason we know about it is these idiots did it in kabul in front of the press thousands of civilians have been killed in the mountains and villages of afghanistan out of sight of the nyt we alienated the population outside the occupied cities slaughtering peasants just as we did in vietnam these nazi tactics never work in the long run but they are the only ones the us knows how to use since people don t like hostile armies in their countries biden voted for this war when he was in the senate and he has learned nothing in the meantime as his current foreign policy is an aggressive one towards cuba russia iran china etc and is supportive of dictators around the world who kowtow to american interests trumpism with a human face nytimes com pentagon acknowledges aug 29 drone strike in afghanistan was a tragic mistake that killed 10 civilians the findings of the inquiry mirrored a new york times investigation of video evidence along with interviews with more than a dozen of the driver s co workers and family members in kabul like comment share 0 comments active posted by thomas riggins at 12 38 pm no comments older posts home subscribe to posts atom sharethis political affairs magazine loading user tools share subscribe to this podcast in itunes podcast 119 property nation and citizen in creek society an interview with david chang august 5th 2010 on this episode we play the first of a two part interview with historian david chang author of the color of the land race nation and the politics of landownership in oklahoma 1832 1929 democratic ideas about property and multiculturalism have indigenous roots download the mp3 version of episode 119 here subscribe to this podcast in itunes podcast 120 u s colonial policies and native americans int with david chang on this episode we play the second of a two part interview with historian david chang author of the color of the land race nation and the politics of landownership in oklahoma 1832 1929 some democratic ideas about property and multiculturalism have indigenous roots download the mp3 version of 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