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vick s vapor blog skip to main skip to sidebar electronic cigarettes personal vaporizors and the politics against them monday october 11 2010 nz researchers suggest 10 year end game for smoking http tobaccoreporter com home php id 498 art 3823 ok so this is a little research study done in new zealand but its intent and its message is very scary put bluntly this study has suggested that the nz government start phasing out the amount of tobacco available for import and thus for sale in gradually decreasing amounts to be completely tobacco free in 10 years of course quit smoking products from our buddies at big pharma would be available as would the wonderful pharmacopoeia of drugs offered to help those struggling smokers break their addiction the goal would be to force those last reluctant smokers to give up their butts honestly this frightens me this is to put it bluntly tobacco prohibition the forcing of the moral right s views on the general populace what happened during the 20 s when we in the us tried prohibition with alcohol anybody anybody well a few people stopped drinking but the majority started simply buying their booze on the black market and with that black market came the mobsters and organized crime and an absolute explosion of violence for them crimesters to keep their marketplace it was such a miserably failed experiment in the folly of trying to morally control man s vices that the amendment was repealed within a decade the only amendment to the us constitution to be repealed might i quote here those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it do we really want to see a black market emerge in the cigarette arena do we really want a revisit of the crime and violence think on how much crime is generated already in this country over illegal drugs care to triple that quadruple it how much closer must we get to complete chaos in this country before those in charge realize that there are some people you simply can t force into doing your wishes posted by unknown at 5 56 pm 25 comments thursday september 30 2010 pasadena city college opinion piece much as it pains me to post a link to an article such as this here s what the pv is up against http media www pcccourier com media storage paper1346 news 2010 09 30 opinion electronic cigarette companies not to be trusted 3939131 shtml and here s how i responded let s see if they actually allow my comments to be posted although i for one am not holding my breath my my my allow me to correct just a few mis conceptions you ve written here for starters the tobacco giants had nothing to do with the creation of the electronic cigarette in fact the e cig is a direct competitor to the traditional tobacco cigarette e cigs are marketed and used by consumers as an alternative to tobacco better in many ways to a cigarette because there is nothing to light on fire and no by products of combustion such as smoke to inhale into your lungs while there are some distributors who are as in any industry willing to make any sensationalist claims to make a quick buck this product is not marketed as a way to quit smoking although many users have found that to be a happy side effect to regularly using them and while many users do wean themselves down on the nicotine there are many more who do not using this as a long term recreational nicotine consumption product would you insist that the entire bottled water industry be shut down because a few resellers have claimed that their water is better because it cures cancer of course not that would be absurd yet that s exactly what the fda want to do to the e cig industry shutting down thousands of honest distributors for the sake of silencing the few out there who are just in it to make a quick buck and all because this is a competitor to not only the tobacco giants but the pharmaceutical giants as well with their nrt products nicotine is not by itself that harmful it has risks similar to caffeine plenty of studies within a few mouse clicks on google will tell you that care to do a little research and re evaluate your article here posted by unknown at 8 24 pm 4 comments sunday september 19 2010 an accidental way to quit smoking first and formost the link http riverjournal com vivvo news 1695 accidentalnotsmoking_bixler_092010 html thank you so very much for writing this article it s an excellent piece it states things cleanly and precisely puts the entire scope of the smoking wars in perspective make no mistake there is a war in progress and we re all the foot soldiers in that war anyone who currently uses nicotine in any form snus snuff cigarettes pipes pv s nrt s cigars and many other nicotine products out there that people use to sustain their nicotine balance posted by unknown at 9 23 pm 16 comments sunday september 12 2010 midwest vapefest 2010 and here it is the aftermath of one of the greatest experiences of my life i attended one of the largest gatherings of vapers in the us would it sound pretentious to claim the world this last weekend we descended en mass to st louis and took the town by storm link is to my photobucket page which is currently housing the pictures i captured of this event http s974 photobucket com albums ae221 vicks vap oh yeah midwest 20vapefest 20photos and it gets better not only was this event the largest gathering to date we had a fantastic write up in the st louis paper http www stltoday com news local metro article_0e142538 4114 597a a896 e249c8e58b6f html which was a positive piece let me genuflect on the experience it will be emblazoned in my memory forever these people who gathered vapers all united in their common practice there were people there from all across the us a few from canada and many many more who couldn t be in attendance watching on the live video stream the thing that hits me the hardest about the experience that i got to meet so many of the people i ve known for a year plus for the first time glorious posted by unknown at 6 25 pm 2 comments fda sabre rattling first here s the link to our lovely fda s page http www fda gov newsevents newsroom pressannouncements ucm225224 htm here s the face of the story the fda has sent warning letters to 5 distributors or manufacturers of either the hardware or the liquid regarding their sales promotions of pv s claiming continuing to claim that these are unregulated or adulterated drug delivery devises which need a new drug application to be sold as so stated by the fdca which is the food drug and cosmetic act and how the fda was granted authority to regulate all food drugs and cosmetics sold in this country the biggest problem i have with the letters the fda sent out is they are still trying to regulate the products as a drug delivery device under the fdca when judge leon specifically said they have all the authority to regulate these under the fscpa family smoking control protection act that they need when he tendered his opinion in january granted i m biased here being a pv consumer but i m inclined to agree with leon s opinion if they the fda really wanted to they could drop this absurd appeal and be regulating the products right now as tobacco alternatives or a reduced risk product think on this they have the authority granted them by congress to hold manufacturers to quality and purity standards all they have to do is come up with what standards are acceptable instead they continue to push the appeal they continue to make noises that these are drug delivery devices they have now stepped up to harass local distributors and they continue to waste the taxpayer s money while doing so this could be over folks if the fda would accept the premise that has been laid down by judge leon that pv s are recreational nicotine consumption products just like cigarettes and regulate the marketplace accordingly why will the fda not yield to this face to back down now to state that we were wrong would cost the fda face reputation and status sick yet i am posted by unknown at 4 41 pm 6 comments friday july 30 2010 the e cigarette vs the fda by paul fetters http www lewrockwell com orig11 fetters1 1 1 html paul fetters if you are reading this due to my link thank you i have to say you are well researched articulate and certainly call it like you see it and you are right in all counts posted by unknown at 7 12 am 5 comments monday july 26 2010 the rest of the story blog entry http tobaccoanalysis blogspot com now i ve linked to this blog on those i m following but this one deserves special attention simply because dr mike siegel wrote a potent statement below when a product on the market is benefiting many people and leading to marked health improvement the burden of proof is on those who want it removed from the market to demonstrate that the product is causing harm this is why we err on the side of leaving products on the market until they are shown to be harmful since electronic cigarettes are already on the market i feel that the same standard should hold they should be removed from the market only if it is demonstrated that they are causing adverse effects the burden of proof is on those who want the product removed this is the crux of the issue surrounding e cigs that this is already an established market in the us with 1000 s of small vendors and resellers and a customer base above 100 000 users in the us alone the fda and the other alphabet organizations would kill this industry in totality in their bid to squash the competition these products offer against the giants at big pharma an alternative that works that breaks the cycle of quit smoke quit smoke quit smoke which lines the pockets of pharma with its ineffective smoking cessation products tobacco with sales of its deadly cigarettes and our government which taxes heavily and uses the funds to shore up its own ineptitude in managing the rightfully collected taxes every citizen must pay posted by unknown at 6 32 pm 4 comments older posts home subscribe to posts atom thank you for reading hi all and welcome to my blog comments are always welcome if you would rather leave a private message instead of a public comment you may email me at personalvapes gmail com thanks for reading vib s very important blogs velvet glove iron fist can the high street be saved andy burnham thinks he can save the high street by stopping bookies and vape shops opening i disagree the idea that the high street can be revived by 4 hours ago the rest of the story tobacco news analysis and commentary american lung association finds it appalling that nicotine pouch maker is allowed to tell the truth it used to be that we castigated the tobacco companies for lying to or misleading the public now apparently we think that it s appalling that a tobacc 5 weeks ago tobacco truth opportunity for the world wide research community spend 15 minutes to counter falsified research in the journal of the american heart association the journal of the american heart association on june 5 2019 published a bogus research article electronic cigarette use and myocardial infarction 6 years ago glimpses through the mist fda vapor regs analogy for non vapers don t get why the fda vapor product regulations are ridiculous let us give you a more relatable analogy imagine that some small upstart tech company d 10 years ago from the right lane justice for life maybe not the judicial power of the united states shall be vested in one supreme court and in such inferior courts as the congress may from time to time ordain 10 years ago ep ology by carl v phillips new address for this blog ep ology com this blog can now be found at ep ology com i expect this will be the last post at this location the archives will remain here here to preserve existin 12 years ago the truth about nicotine chronic conditions require ongoing treatment some people have suggested that the way to help more smokers quit is to offer treatment for a longer period say from 6 to 8 months as opposed to 6 to 8 14 years ago awakenings sad sad days karen winrich obituary i received some unexpected bad news this week my sister in law karen died rather suddenly on wed morning she was 44 i see m 15 years ago important links to more information on e cigs vicks in the news vapers forum the e cigarette petition long island vapers pg information electronic cigarette forum followers blog archive 2010 14 october 1 nz researchers suggest 10 year end game for smoking september 4 july 3 june 2 may 3 march 1 2009 15 december 1 november 2 september 1 august 1 july 4 june 3 may 3 just who is this vicks person anyway unknown view my complete profile