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nd right wing wackiness worldnetdaily wnd supplements its coverage of the latest developments in creation science and intelligent design theory with such stories as christian mayor rejects gay flag on town hall he s aware the decision isn t popular but must abide by biblical convictions nafta superhighway traffic tied to minn bridge collapse there s no issue that can t be tied to immigration and the 30 minute diabetes cure why spend a lifetime on insulin or metformin is there really room on the web for bigfoot and biblical dinosaurs alien abduction and science destruction miracle cures and miraculous creations well of course there is the credulous are legion posted by red state rabble 5 13 am monday august 06 2007 skeptic s circle the 66th edition of the skeptic s circle is up at the denialism blog check it out posted by red state rabble 5 52 am discovery s chapman backs iraq war it s finally happened the creationists of the intelligent design variety have finally conclusively demonstrated that whatever grip they may once have had on reality has finally slipped away i know i know many of you are asking what i m talking about what grip on reality how can anyone who professes to believe dinosaurs were on the ark or that mt rushmore is conclusive proof of design in nature or that anybody might still be fooled into believing that intelligent design is science and not far right fundamentalist nonsense ever have been thought to have even the most tenuous grip on reality how you are asking could the motley rabble of hiv holocaust and global warming deniers who populate the the intelligent design advocacy movement possibly separate themselves from the ranks of the sane more than they already have only by coming out as discovery s bruce chapman now has for continuing the war in iraq rest assured chapman hasn t volunteered to serve in iraq himself none of the chicken hawks is that crazy but he does say in a seattle times opinion piece that w ithdrawal now is really a euphemism for surrender those who recommend getting out of iraq chapman suggests are doing the terrorists work for them even chapman reality challenged as he is can t quite bring himself to recall dubbya s wmd as the reason for the invasion but he s all over the al quaida angle and as you might expect you ll hear precious little about the civil war raging between shiitte and sunni and nothing at all about what our soldiers might do to stop it as the the intelligent design project has foundered in the wake of the dover ruling the discovery institute and intelligent design advocates such as william dembski have adopted a series of political positions such as opposition to addressing the issue of global warming that reveal their movement for what it is the old notion that id was a movement of dissident scientists and intellectuals has been abandoned by the id theorists themselves as they abandon the center they once sought to win and bind themselves tighter to their far right fundamentalist religious base id advocates late embrace of the iraq war now that the vast majority of the american people have made it plain they re unwilling to sacrifice more young soldiers simply to save the president from admitting that he was wrong is at once an undeniable demonstration of the political nature of the id movement and a sign of just how narrow the base of support for the war has become posted by red state rabble 5 37 am turning up the heat saturday we were in the twin cities where the temperature barely broke 60 degrees the red state rabbles on our way home from northern minnesota were sadly contemplating the end of our vacation up north a week on the lake listening to the loons instead of arguing with them on rsr yesterday we drove the rest of the way home to kansas city where the thermometer read 98 degrees and the humidity was well what can i say it s august in kansas city it s hot as hell here and over the next couple of days a relaxed and refreshed red state rabble will be turning up the heat on creationism in all its forms posted by red state rabble 5 37 am thursday july 26 2007 the return of jim crow on june 28 the supreme court led by bush administration appointees restricted the ability of public school districts to use race to determine which schools students can attend as the court s minority pointed out in sharply worded dissents that decision will as the majority no doubt intended sharply limit racial integration of public schools across the nation where does the discovery institute you know the ones who claim darwin s theory of evolution is racist stand on this issue well john r miller a member of parents involved in community schools which sued the seattle school district over its racial tiebreaker plan is guess what a senior fellow at the discovery institute and he s written an op ed in the seattle times to tell us discovery s miller wants the country s history of racial segregation forgotten where once the opponents of integration blocked the school house doors to proclaim segregation now segregation tomorrow and segregation forever they now demand an absolutely color blind system for placing children in public schools and if that just happens to re segregate public schools across the country as white supremacists such as george wallace bull connor lester maddox and strom thumond fought to do well that s just too bad as someone who grew up in mississippi and alabama during the civil rights movement evangelical theologian charles marsh recently told robin reid at politico my reading is that the conservative christian movement never was able to distinguish itself from the segregationist movement and that is one of the reasons i find so much of the rhetoric familiar and unsettling those on the christian right such as miller and the discovery institute standing on the shoulders of the segregationists who came before them want to whittle away at the gains made by the civil rights movement to do that they ve learned to appropriate the language of the civil rights fighters they once opposed these days they talk more about lincoln and diversity than race mixing and miscegenation neighborhood schools have replaced state s rights they no longer erect billboards calling for the impeachment of earl warren instead they try to take credit for the warren court s brown vs board of education ruling even as they twist its intent and labor tirelessly to lead us back to the days of jim crow posted by red state rabble 6 59 am judgement day is coming nova the pbs science program will air a two hour special on the dover intelligent design trial titled judgment day intelligent design on trial on nov 13 we hear chapman myers luskin egnor and the boys in seattle will be going to the mattresses over this one it seems traipsing into evolution and all of luskin s multi part posts attacking the character of judge jones haven t had the impact except in the hermetically sealed world of id of that single ruling and an upcoming public television special although discovery stonewalled nova s repeated requests for a spokesperson to comment for the program you can be sure you ll hear repeatedly in coming months just how unfair and one sided the program is posted by red state rabble 6 29 am more excuses red state rabble and family are going on vacation posting will be spotty here until aug 6 when we return i may publish an occassional post between now and then but after posting without a break for the past two and a half years i m going to try to stay away from the computer for the next ten days see you in ten days posted by red state rabble 6 25 am tour de france rsr wearing the blue jersey as a former amateur bicycle racer july is always a big month in the red state rabble household around here things are put on hold and we watch the tour de france on versus and follow the riders over the stages on the internet as a longtime rider and fan i have to say i m sick at heart at what s happening in this year s tour with alexandre vinokourov testing positive for blood doping and the wearer of the yellow jersey michael rasmussen being kicked out of the tour for avoiding out of competition drug tests and lying about where he was training and all this comes of course on the heels of american tour winner floyd landis testing positive last year favorites for this year s tour like basso and ullrich have retired or been suspended over doping allegations no matter what happens i will ride my bike as long as i m able and i ll always be a fan of bike racing to my mind there s nothing more beautiful than a fast moving peloton moving along the open road i just hope that the riders who are cheating will come to their senses and stop before they kill this great race and destroy a beautiful sport posted by red state rabble 6 07 am wednesday july 25 2007 science fiction a post on the discovery institute s evolution news and views blog notes that intelligent design supporter granville sewell predicts that intelligent design probably won t be taught in his lifetime peering into his crystal ball id s sybill trelawney devines that future biology texts will refer to evolution as an amazing mysterious natural process which scientists do not now understand he s got his first prediction right the second sounds more like projection posted by red state rabble 6 08 am behe debated dr c loring brace professor and curator of biological anthropology at the museum of anthropology at the university of michigan debated intelligent design activist michael behe a professor of biochemistry at lehigh university and senior fellow of the discovery institute at the cranbrook institute for science recently reader dp sent us this report of the debate behe is a very slick presenter kindly knowledgeable and quite calm and patient in responding to questions he began by stating his agreement with common descent and natural selection but stated flatly that both are trivial to the discussion and that random mutation is simply not a feasible mechanism for evolution this is a central point to his discussion but is presented with essentially no support and he was unfortunately never questioned about why he takes this stand the omission of natural selection from his model is particularly significant as it is in many ways the most important element of darwinian evolution and explains quite well how environmental conditions create population level transformations in certain situations and not others behe s main argument is that random mutations may in some cases lead to reductions but there are no natural forces promoting complex phenotypic developments by removing natural selection from the discussion a priori he manages to make this position seem reasonable to the uninformed and i think it will be crucial in future confrontations to force a discussion of natural selection why doe behe insist that it is trivial does he believe that natural selection can t produce complex transformations over and over behe used examples that most of us would say support darwinian evolutionary theory he argues that sickle cell anemia as a response to malaria is unlikely as a result of random mutation but he does so by simply asserting it and describing the advantage of abnormal red blood cells of course this is a classic example in darwinian theory of an otherwise deleterious mutation that becomes advantageous in a high pressure environment and is therefore selected for he is also very into nanotechnology now he has moved away from the flagellum as a micro machine but now uses other features in precisely the same way fortunately there was a nanotech researcher in the audience that confronted him on this but he simply talked around the question and moved on as if he had answered it he also uses a strange metaphor of the borg from star trek not joking and their nanotechnology then suggests that darwinists are the borg i didn t really get the point of this exercise except to tell us that we are all brainwashed the major strategy that i noticed and one that seems to be quite effective is that behe never asserts any mechanism never gives any details never supports any of his claims except to assert without any real support that darwinian evolution can t explain x y or z in so doing he successfully kept nearly the entire discussion focused on alleged shortcomings in the normative models by doing this he takes a fringe theory that should come in on a defensive posture and places it on the offensive with standard evolutionary theory in a defensive position for the entire evening this feeds the notion that there are problems with evolutionary theory and that it is in question among scientists and it also keeps his ideas entirely out of the light he never provided any mechanisms details or even vague proposals and this was almost entirely successful when i got a chance to ask a question the very last one of the night at 1 55 i asked bluntly for a description of the mechanism that behe is proposing and also for some ideas about how we would go about deriving hypotheses and detecting his mechanism in the natural world his response is essentially that he doesn t have a mechanism or model beyond saying that he assumes guided mutation he also goes on to assert that this is standard scientific practice citing big bang theory and gravity as theories that were proposed without any mechanism or potential to test i followed up unfortunately off mic so you have to turn the volume all the way up by noting that valid scientific theories produce knowledge by describing natural phenomena that can be tested in the world and i asked for even a single hypothesis or a 10 year plan for furthering knowledge based on his paradigm of course he was completely unable to offer anything except to talk in a circle about finding the edge of evolution and suggesting that drug resistant bacteria may be stopped once we realize that their transformations are not describable by standard evolutionary theory the other major theme of the evening was buy my book if you listen to the debate you ll hear him reference it over and over most of his answers and assertions sounded like well i can t describe it for you here but if you read my book you ll get it i still think every one of these discussions should start and end with an insistence that behe provide a detailed mechanism and prove that it is testable in the natural world otherwise it is not only useless it hinders the advancement of knowledge all of the other details are really superfluous to that point i have also come to believe that the scientific community cannot be defensive to id we must become aggressively offensive and point out to the wider community exactly that point id is not just a silly diversion with no explanatory potential it is extremely harmful to science and the production of knowledge in general you can listen to audio of the debate here posted by red state rabble 5 33 am tuesday july 24 2007 the 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