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a magnitude we ve not seen in a very long time if ever the primary culprit loneliness for all their power to link kids day and night social media also exacerbate the age old teen concern about being left out social media in other words seem to be playing the same function as the cyberball game used by researchers to neuroimage the pain of social rejection only this time the experiment involves an entire generation of kids and the game has no end the list of curious and troubling phenomena apparently turning on the ways mere connectivity has transformed our social ecology is well nigh endless merely changing how we push one another s darwinian buttons in other words has impacted the human social ecology in historically unprecedented ways and by all accounts we find ourselves becoming more isolated more alienated than at any other time in human history so what happens when we change the who what happens when the heaven of social belonging goes on sale there is no centre for the scientific study of human meaning within the hci community criticism is primarily restricted to the cognitivist post cognitivist debate the question of whether cognition is intrinsically independent or dependent of an agent s ongoing environmental interactions as the preceding should make clear numerous disciplines find themselves wandering this or that section of the domain but we have yet to organize any institutional pursuit of the questions posed here human social ecology the study of human interaction in biologically amenable terms remains the province of storytellers we quite literally have no clue as to what we are about to do consider mark zuckerberg s and elon musk s recent debate regarding the promise and threat of ai debate is likely the wrong word given the indirect and prosaic nature of the exchange but since both men refer to each other by name the disagreement comes across as a family spat among the royals of silicon valley which probably explains why it has gone viral the way it has musk of course has garnered headlines for quite some time now with fears of artificial superintelligence he s famously called ai our biggest existential threat openly referring to skynet and the prospect of robots mowing down civilians on the streets on a sunday this past july zuckerberg went live in his palo alto backyard while smoking meats to host an impromptu q a at the 50 minute mark he answers a question regarding musk s fears and responds i think people who are naysayers and try to drum up these doomsday scenarios i don t understand it it s really negative and in some ways i think it s pretty irresponsible on the tuesday following musk tweeted in response i ve talked to mark about this his understanding of the subject is limited the notoriety of this almost debate combined with the canadian government s recent investment in ai recently convinced cbc s the national to host a panel discussion on the topic thus providing canadians with everything they need to misunderstand what the proliferation of cognitive automation entails the threat of superintelligence though perhaps inevitable remains far enough in the future to easily dismiss as a bogeyman the same can be said regarding peak human arguments predicting mass unemployment the threat of economic disruption though potentially dire is counter balanced by the promise of new unforeseen economic opportunity this leaves us with the countless number of ways ai will almost certainly improve our lives fewer car crashes fewer misdiagnoses and so on as a result one can predict with painful accuracy precisely how all such panel discussions will go the contemporary ai debate in other words is largely a pseudo debate the futurist richard yonck s account of affective computing redresses this problem in his recently released heart of the machine but since he begins with the presupposition that ai represents a natural progression that the technological destruction of ancestral social habitats is the ancestral habitat of humanity he remains largely blind to the social ecological consequences of his subject matter espousing a kind of technological fatalism or worse fundamentalism he characterizes ai as the culmination of a buddy movie as old as humanity itself the oxymoronic if not contradictory prospects of artificial friends simply does not dawn on him neil lawrence a professor of machine learning at the university of sheffield and technology columnist at the guardian is the rare expert who recognizes the troubling ecological dimensions of the ai revolution borrowing the distinction between system two or conscious mindful problem solving and system one or unconscious mindless problem solving from cognitive psychology he warns of what he calls system zero what happens when the market via big data social media and artificial intelligence all but masters our darwinian buttons as he writes the actual intelligence that we are capable of creating within the next 5 years is an unregulated system zero it won t understand social context it won t understand prejudice it won t have a sense of a larger human objective it won t empathize it will be given a particular utility function and it will optimize that to its best capability regardless of the wider negative effects to the extent that modern marketing and propaganda techniques already seek to cue emotional as opposed to rational responses however there s a sense in which system zero and consumerism are coeval also economics comprises but a single dimension of human social ecology we have good reason to fear that lawrence s doomsday scenario one where market and technological forces conspire to transform us into consumer borg understates the potential catastrophe that awaits the internet was an easy sell after all what can be wrong with connecting likeminded people the problem of course is that we are the evolutionary product of small highly interdependent hunter gatherer communities historically those disposed to be permissive had no choice but to continually negotiate with those disposed to be authoritarian each party disliked the criticism of the other but the daily rigours of survival forced them to get along no longer only now a mere two decades later are we discovering the consequences of creating a society that systematically segregates permissives and authoritarians the election of donald trump has if nothing else demonstrated the degree to which technology has transformed human social ecology in novel potentially disastrous ways ai has also been an easy sell at least so far after all what can be wrong with humanizing our technological environments imagine a world where everything is user friendly compliant to our most petulant wishes what could be wrong with that well potentially everything insofar as humanizing our environments amounts to dehumanizing our social ecology replacing the systems we are adapted to solve our fellow humans with systems possessing no evolutionary precedent whatsoever machines designed to push our buttons in ways that optimize hidden commercial interests social pollution in effect throughout the history of our species finding social heaven has required risking social hell human beings are as prone to be demanding competitive hurtful anything but user friendly as otherwise now the industrial giants of the early 21 st century are promising to change all that to flood the spaces between us with machines designed to shoulder the onerous labour of community citizenship and yes even love imagine a social ecology populated by billions upon billions of junk intelligences imagine the solitary confinement of an inhuman crowd how will we find one another how will we tolerate the hypersensitive infants we now seem doomed to become 10 comments may 13 2025 no whimpering here by rsbakker i think it s fair to say it s beginning in earnest now a bit faster than i thought and pretty damn close to as predicted the plunging cost of reality is allowing the simulation of crisis events to cue sustained engagement driving advertising revenue fueling gushers of pollution herr goering the adorable clown is now the leader all the toothbrush moustaches lurk behind the stage and curtis yarvin is growing himself a little dugin beard welcome to the age of the fat fascist stage one of the semantic apocalypse i d ask you to buy a ticket but i see you ve already found your seat 9 comments february 19 2020 egnor confounded by rsbakker once again in midst of all the ad hominem nonsense coming from the trump newscorp combine we find another theorist this time neuroscientist and creationist michael egnor embracing an ad hominem dismissal of eliminativism on the mind matters podcast which has been partially transcribed and posted under the title why eliminative materialism cannot be a good theory of mind where trump hews to what is called the abusive ad hominem egnor espouses the tu quoque the argument that intentional eliminativism is self refuting because eliminativists themselves use intentional terms this is essentially the same argument my old highschool girlfriend s mother would use to refute my atheism every time i uttered the word god she would cry see you believe in him the same way god doesn t have to exist for the term god to do a tremendous amount of work terms like beliefs or reasons and so on don t need referents to do a tremendous amount of work the story is a good deal more complicated than this when it comes to intentional idioms of course one needs to explain among other things why so many theorists run afoul this particular confound but the tu quoque as applied against eliminativism at least is every bit as bankrupt enter egnor identity theory has been discarded because its logical nonsense every attribute of the mind reason emotion perception all of those things are completely different from matter that is one describes matter as extensions in space one describes perceptions and reason and emotions in completely different ways there s no overlap between them so mental states can t be the same thing as physical states they actually don t share any properties in common they re clearly related to one another in important ways but they re not the same thing eliminative materialists go one step further they actually say that there are no mental states that there is only the brain which is kind of an odd thing to say because what eliminative materialists are saying is that their ideas are mindless how can you have a proposition that the mind doesn t exist that means propositions don t exist and that means you don t have a proposition let s go through this sentence by sentence identity theory has been discarded because its logical nonsense simply not true identity theory has fallen out of favour because like egnor it possesses no compelling account of intentional phenomena as we shall see the logical nonsense here belongs entirely to egnor every attribute of the mind reason emotion perception all of those things are completely different from matter because egnor thinks these things are exceptional somehow distinct from the natural world as we have come to understand it it s important to keep in mind who s making the more extraordinary claim here the eliminativist is saying intentional properties only seem exceptional much the same way celestial properties once seemed exceptional because we lack perspective egnor is say they really are exceptional that is one describes matter as extensions in space one describes perceptions and reason and emotions in completely different ways yes heuristically in source insensitive ways how else are humans supposed to understand themselves and one another given the astronomically complicated nature of the systems involved our ancestors had to rely on hacks to communicate facts pertaining to their brain states which is to say ways to report brain states absent any knowledge of brain states egnor on the other hand would have us ignore this rather obvious cognitive dilemma and argue that in addition to brains we also evolved this secondary exceptional ontological order the extension of our intentional vocabulary there s no overlap between them so mental states can t be the same thing as physical states they actually don t share any properties in common there s almost no overlap between them because intentional cognition is heuristic cognition a system that neglects the high dimensional facts of the systems involved relying instead on cues systematically related to those systems those cues appear to possess an exceptional nature because we lack the metacognitive resources required to high dimensionally source them to intuit them as belonging to nature more generally given biocomplexity its hard to imagine how it could be any other way they re clearly related to one another in important ways but they re not the same thing and this of course is the million dollar question the one that ecological eliminativism at least actually answers egnor would lead us into the exceptionalist labyrinth and brick up all the exits with his fallacious tu quoque eliminative materialists go one step further they actually say that there are no mental states that there is only the brain which is kind of an odd thing to say because what eliminative materialists are saying is that their ideas are mindless intentionalists are forever telling eliminativists what they really mean intentional cognition is mandatory we simply have no way of reporting biological systems short its heuristic machinations but one can agree that the hacks belonging to intentional cognition are mandatory without likewise asserting that intentional exceptionalism is mandatory as with god i can assert that mind is a useful hack in certain cognitive situations without automatically asserting that minds as egnor theorizes them are real how can you have a proposition that the mind doesn t exist see above that means propositions don t exist and that means you don t have a proposition no that means i m employing a hack that works quite well in certain problem solving contexts cognitive neuroscience unfortunately isn t one of them as egnor s utter inability to solve any of the problems of consciousness and intentionality attest for me the most egregious thing about the post lies with mind matters not egnor they actually quote william ramsey s excellent spep article on eliminativism but they remain utterly mum on the devastating critique ramsey provides of tu quoque counter arguments such as egnor s if i argue that intentional terms have no extension that only various metacognitive confounds make it seem that way then arguing that my position is absurd because i use intentional terms clearly begs the question it is to use egnor s phrase logical nonsense 44 comments february 10 2020 lollipop world by rsbakker what are the odds that i would finish writing a near future viral thriller the lollipop factory just as 2019 ncov was becoming 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