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syscoursefrog on tumblr explore communities change palette sign up log in _ _ syscoursefrog ask me anything follow posts pinned syscoursefrog this is my syscourse blog i am an adult who lives with did i am syscourse unaligned i am not pro neu or anti endo my opinions are complicated and ever evolving i interact with every side of syscourse and greatly value the opinions of those who disagree with me i don t even know what i m doing anymore no dni new intro post because i wasn t vibing with the old one anymore syscourse 11 syscoursefrog calling pwcdds yk a population in which roughly 75 of ppl have a history of csa pedophilic for how they handle their littles is crazy syscourse 1 5 16 syscoursefrog reblogged tussai follow alters are not literally children that s my contribution to the current little discourse if they re allowed to do things like drive manage households raise other children do taxes etc they are allowed to do things like drink alcohol do drugs and have sex it s up to the individuals decide what is best for their system and healing also let s not call adults pedophiles pedophilic for doing adult things with other adults maybe just an idea have your icks but lets not water down what pedophilia is thank you 2 4 22 syscoursefrog damn ok 3 syscoursefrog reblogged anti willo yatta follow heres a thought how about endos and supporters stop using the traumagenic tag you admit to being non disordered so explain its one side or the other not both syscoursefrog plenty of endo supporters are traumagenic themselves y know 6 36 143 syscoursefrog reblogged syscursed follow we find it funny when anti endos tell endogenic systems cdds did mostly arent alter disorder like correct cdds are dissociative disorders which have many symptoms other than plurality then we acknowledge that and say that we arent disordered and they still go but alters can only come from these disorders it kinda sounds like youre saying they are alter disorders if read the wrong way lmao sometimes it comes across that way even though you dont mean that 5 10 syscoursefrog reblogged unfamiliar ghostly system the hadal zone sys follow this one is for strange traumagenics shoutout to traumaendos and mixed origins systems shoutout to pro endo traumagenics shoutout to traumagenic headmates within endogenic systems shoutout to non disordered traumagenic systems shoutout to systems who feel like their trauma isn t enough to call themselves traumagenic you are seen you are loved you aren t alone 7 229 712 syscoursefrog reblogged willo pillow i was looking thru rants by anti endos willos in the tags and i can see where they re coming from it is irritating when your disorder isn t being taken seriously it does feel cruel but that just the thing most if not all of us never claimed to have osdd or did none of us are trying to make fun or invalidating your disorders or experiences we re just sharing ours look at any big pro endo traumagenic system vent and you ll see support from everyone traumagenic and endogenic alike if anything opening up the community to all plurals trauma and endo provides more support i ve also seen beings claim that we re watering down did or osdd which is just simply false most if not all endos exceptions do apply don t claim to be disordered at all willos for example we don t say nor think we re disordered at least not within the realm of plurality i ve also seen people ask why we would even want to be plural since it gives them so many issues that is a valid question and the answer isn t exactly simple people could desire to be plural for a multitude of reasons it could be cultural spiritual for coping with things like loneliness or depression or because they simply find the concept cool it could also be a mix plurality is extremely personal and every system has a different reason plurality doesn t just come from disorders if that were the case plurality wouldn t have been as common documented as it is if ur gonna be an ass i ll block you but i do welcome anti endos to explain why they re anti endo not debate exactly i just wish to understand more not intentionally trying to change anyones opinion keep in mind we just woke up so our word articulation may not be the best 1 8 syscoursefrog reblogged ask an endo anonymous asked hi i m technically answering last ask as someone who knows people in the endogenic community with did and considers myself to share experiences with most of them i have almost never seen anyone claim to have did without trauma did is a trauma disorder yeah usually endogenics with did had an endogenic system that predated experiencing prolonged trauma and that affected how their system worked going forward including creating the dissociative symptoms heavy dissociative barriers i ve seen the argument that did is only when a system forms due to trauma and what i m describing above should instead be called endogenic systems with c ptsd but like do a traumagenic system with did and an endogenic system with c ptsd have that drastically different experiences to have to be grouped separately i mean maybe as for systems predating childhood trauma some people believe they were born a system born with multiple souls have other spiritual beliefs where they were created as a system to begin with or they created their system as a child imaginary friends becoming sentient through repeated interaction without trauma prompting it and then their did is from events as a teen preteen which some doctors say is still time for the dissociative barriers to form ask an endo answered this was much more well put than what i said lol 2 6 syscoursefrog reblogged mycroft syscourse follow spamming the syscourse tag is not the own or win you think it is the people you are mad at do not care the random person just trying to have a debate is however upset 1 18 syscoursefrog reblogged anti willo yatta follow heres a thought how about endos and supporters stop using the traumagenic tag you admit to being non disordered so explain its one side or the other not both syscoursefrog why are you equating endogenics with their supporters do you think only endos support endos do you think that pro endos cant possibly have cdds do you think that supporting endos means someone shouldn t be welcome in cdd spaces ifeeltheirvitriol do you think that supporting endos means someone shouldn t be welcome in cdd spaces yeah syscoursefrog okay so you re an ableist ass got it mossfilledblunts u cant be ableist towards people who claim to be non disorderd p syscoursefrog i think you re confused i m talking about pwcdds who are pro endo and just for the record it is absolutely ableist to say certain things to people regardless of if they are disabled or not if the rhetoric is ableist so are you 6 36 143 syscoursefrog reblogged onewiththerot follow blocking people the moment i see them say trauma is not a requirement for did osdd is self care 3 7 24 syscoursefrog reblogged guardianssystem follow open the actually did tag immediately hit with two posts complaining about endos a spam account focused on hating endos the next six posts after that taking up room not being visible because the tags are complaining about endos and we have them muted and three posts talking about how horrible plurality is close the actually did tag no did there we guess ️ ithiel so real unfortunately 2 3 29 syscoursefrog if you think pro endo cdd systems don t deserve access to cdd spaces resources you re an ableist ass one who obviously cares more about hating endos than supporting pwcdds one who is not safe for those with cdds syscourse 1 42 159 syscoursefrog reblogged anti willo yatta follow heres a thought how about endos and supporters stop using the traumagenic tag you admit to being non disordered so explain its one side or the other not both syscoursefrog why are you equating endogenics with their supporters do you think only endos support endos do you think that pro endos cant possibly have cdds do you think that supporting endos means someone shouldn t be welcome in cdd spaces ifeeltheirvitriol do you think that supporting endos means someone shouldn t be welcome in cdd spaces yeah syscoursefrog okay so you re an ableist ass got it 6 36 143 syscoursefrog reblogged legionforweare many follow dear awv people who post things like i respect the experiences of endogenic systems i just wish they d stop saying they had a cdd because you need trauma to have one good news nobody is saying that we as a community have spent untold amounts of effort making it as clear as possible that we re not saying that you can just be a decent person now 10 9 syscoursefrog reblogged tussai follow people keep looking for answers in the wrong field and it annoys me if someone is asking whether a phenomenon is a recognized mental disorder then clinical psychology and psychiatry are the appropriate places to look if someone is asking about a social identity a community a cultural phenomenon or how people describe and understand their own experiences then sociology anthropology ethnography and related social sciences are also relevant for example most people understand that alterhuman communities aren t explained by clinical zoanthropy they re different phenomena that happen to share some superficial similarities in a similar vein discussions about endogenic plurality as a social or identity phenomenon aren t fully answered by literature on dissociative disorders you will have to look at other sciences what frustrates me the most is when people dismiss social science sources as not real science simply because they aren t clinical studies social sciences are still sciences and they re often the most appropriate for studying communities identities and cultural spiritual religious phenomena like endogenic plurality but i will admit if you re looking for the field most directly concerned with explaining the underlying mechanisms of subjective experiences i d probably point to psychology and cognitive science there s just not much there yet what we do have are reports interpretations community frameworks maybe some relevant psychological theories and a lot of unanswered questions tl dr different fields answer different questions and psychology is not the only one that has things to contribute social science is a real science if you re asking whether something is a disorder clinical psychology is the most relevant if you re asking about identities communities and lived experiences social sciences are also relevant and when it comes to endogenic plurality specifically there is currently no widely accepted psychological or cognitive science explanation that fully answers the questions many people are asking 1 8 20 you are using an unsupported browser and things might not work as intended please make sure you re using the latest version of chrome firefox safari or edge
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