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on in the movie you can see it but you can t hear it what they quickly realized is that people were coming there for the beer wine and mead they weren t coming for the movies back when they used to do the sunday night movie thing it was a major flop i loved it because me and a couple guys would hang out and we had the bar to ourselves but other people would say dude i m not going to a bar at 8pm on a sunday night to watch wild thing we were like cool wowee it was not for everybody they were able to say hey the bar is doing well so they kinda ran with that aspect of it i look at it the same way with us now it s a test pilot we re showing that we can brew beer that s interesting that sells and that people will go to a release of it and buy it once we can show that then hopefully we can look at some investors or someone that has a bigger setup that wants a brewer or something of that nature and take it to the next level this is a stepping stone for us and that s how we re looking at it hopefully one day we ll be on a nice bigger system but for now it is what it is any plans for the future robert c i would love to be brewing on a 7 barrel system in the next year or two of course that s going to depend a lot on money and right now people are being hesitant to invest and there s not a lot of money from banks and other resources jamie yeah hopefully within the next five years it ll be a brewpub or a gastropub i mean just to be able to pair food with beers and beers with food just to do that is a way to go robert c i actually cook a lot with beer and since i ve been brewing i ve actually made beers just to cook with them i ll make certain beers and wines that are really more for flavoring things or marinating something and that s a nice part about making your own if you want to make five gallons of wine to marinate chicken you can but you may not want to drink peppered lemongrass wine other people might but either way it makes a great chicken marinade but drinking maybe not so good i experiment with things of that nature i have a recipe for beef stroganoff that i make which i wall beer stroganoff and beer is pretty much all the liquid that s in it so there s a lot of things you can do i ve taken ipas and made chicken herb soups the ipa bitterness blends really well with the fresh herbs it s fun to play with it if you end up growing do you hope to distribute at all robert c well like i said i d like to be on a 7 barrel system and that would be enough that we would distribute in kegs i d like us to do kegs growlers and maybe a bottle release once or twice a year optimally i d like to do a seasonal release every three months like a seasonal bottle release maybe do a saison in the summer a brown in the winter or a stout kinda following the classic pattern of seasonal beers because to me it s all coming back down to local seasonal ingredients and i really like that aspect that i can highlight those just like i did when i was a chef now i m just doing it in a different medium where would you distribute to robert c just locally it d be nice to throw beers on at proof or ray s etc there are some bars in town that are interested in good beer and they serve good beer if we have a smaller system like that we can distribute out a couple sixth barrels or half barrels to some of these bars and they would go over well i think it kinda fits the theme of all of this i hope that when proof gets up and running and distributing i hope we can get some of that beer at fermentation these bars in town are all about good beer have you thought of doing specially treated casks or anything like that to serve at ferm robert c absolutely again it s a capacity problem right now we have talked to the owners about doing casks and things like that nature what i would actually really like to do is make 30 gallons of beer and doing the same beer four different ways having a plain old keg and taking the remaining beer and splitting it between three different casks with different treatments so have the beer and in this one we add fruit this one we add oak chips and this one we add dry hops something completely different and really try to showcase the same beer multiple different ways i think that would be fun and experimental we talked about it it just hasn t really seemed to happen yet and it may not probably because of the capacity issues we ve only got so much we can brew and ferment at one time and we can t take both fermenters out of production for three or four weeks to do these casks if you could make love to one beer or one beer style what would it be and why jamie oh man i would make love to a stout because it s strong black and bitter robert c just like you like your women i would do a rauchbier because it s hot i like the fire hot and steamy robert d i got nothing robert c he would do an ipa because it s bitter but he would always drink an ipa anyway jamie then again just maybe perhaps i might like a little ménage a beer trois adding in a bock weltenbergur kloster is probably one of my top five beers if i could make a sex doll out of weltenbergur kloster i think that would probably be the beer that i would use robert c of course if you wanted to be completely misogynist you could say bud light because i want it cheap and then it goes away one and done robert d i just can t draw the sex and beer parallel i can t robert c can i change my answer to eisbock because it s thick and creamy posted by tallahassee beer critic at 1 22 pm 1 comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest labels fermentation lounge golden horn brewing friday march 23 2012 events at proof greetings i m working on finishing my interview with golden horn and you can expect to see that soon in that post i will announce the details of our potential collaboration brew well for whatever reason nobody has really been announcing any events except proof so i ll go ahead and fill you in with all of those tonight they are having a friday happy hour with some good stuff if you haven t been to proof around 5pm on a friday it s awesome smaller crowd older clientele etc if you love good beer but want to avoid the nightlife this is a good time to visit also it s the weekend which means both bars will be open baby anyway tonight they will have lots of bells hopslam bottles bells on tap dogfish head 120 minute and more on tap and some terrapin stuff it s also dollar off all drafts from 5 7 every day so this would be a good time to stop by for sure in the same e mail they announced their next couple of events as well on wednesday march 28th they will be having a southern tier glassware giveaway and the next week wednesday april 4th they will be having a stone glassware giveaway if you re wondering why my dates are different it s because they typed the wrong dates in the e mail but it s always on wednesdays so i m assuming these are the dates they meant keep your eyes peeled for the rest of the golden horn interview cheers posted by tallahassee beer critic at 12 23 pm 0 comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest labels fermentation lounge golden horn brewing proof proof brewing company wednesday march 21 2012 interview with golden horn brewing co pt 1 i was recently lucky enough to sit down with three members of golden horn brewing company i have to say if you ve never talked to any of these folks catch them at the next release and you re definitely in for a good time we had a lot of fun chatting about beer their philosophies how they got started and oh so much more golden horn brewing company consists of four members jamie hanuka robert daffin robert clark and sue humphries currently they brew at for fermentation lounge as a contract brewer of sorts right now they are waiting for some federal red tape to clear before they get brewing there for the year but we re hoping to see more soon alright enough jabber let s get down to it because there were often 3 people answering and because robert c is a windbag just kidding this interview got quite long i was there for almost 2 hours so i opted to split this interview into two parts part 1 will cover a lot about their histories and philosophies part 2 released later this week or next week will cover brewing at fermentation lounge and future plans i sat down for my chat with jamie robert c and robert d where did the name come from robert c sue and myself are both kinda history buffs as well as jamie and sue and i are both into making mead there s a story about a germanic god named odin who stole mead and put it in a golden chalice well for them it was a golden horn and if you drank that mead basically it gave you the gift of poetry and in that culture the gift of poetry was very revered because they had the gift of words and language so we tend to make higher gravity beers and use lots of honey we definitely have a mead background i always make the joke that i make beer so that i have something to drink while my mead is maturing so that came from that concept of the golden drinking horn and getting the gift of poetry and since we make higher gravity beers if you drink enough of it you might just get to talking any particular beer or moment that got you into craft beer robert c i think we all have our own individual stories for me both my father and my grandfather homebrewed one incident that very clearly sticks out in my mind is when i was about 6 years old and my dad caught me pilfering his homebrew stash i would take a bottle and me and my brothers would run out into the woods and we would all take turns drinking it well he caught me one day and he made me drink two bottles and i got sick i enjoyed the flavors and the fact that he was making it i remember helping him cap it that was my favorite job he had one of those big lever cappers and i would grab the handle and pull up my legs and let my body weight pull the capper down i remember having lots of fun doing that because he would make about 10 gallons at a time that s my memory capping the beer watching them ferment and occasionally explode jamie i would say my memory is really the first time i had my first homebrew like all college students it s all about natty lights and consuming in mass quantities the cheapest beer you can afford and i met some guys that were homebrewing here you think everything is yellow crisp and watery until i had that first homebrew it was just like oh my god this is absolutely amazing it pretty much opened the flood gates and convinced me to get a kit and start doing homebrewing stuff robert d i was born and raised in marianna florida which is not exactly a bastion of anything short of prisons they changed the laws in alabama some 20 years ago to allow the opening of brewpubs and one actually opened in dothan alabama of all places which i m still rather surprised happened but anyway poplarhead mule company opened up not 100 sure of the name he said a friend of mine told me i had to go there and try this beer i did they had 3 different beers on tap one was a budweiser clone that was not that interesting one was a bud light clone that was not that interesting but they had one called downtown brown and it was one of the best things i had ever had we made regular pilgrimages to buy downtown brown by the pitcher me and my buddy tommy would get well the quality of the night depended on the quantity of pitchers we had a 2 pitcher night was probably pretty good a 3 pitcher night was probably pushing it and a 4 pitcher night probably not gonna end well in fact i actually have a problem now because of that and this was over 20 years ago i have a problem now with browns because i m still trying to find that beer i ve not found a brown that measures up to that and i probably never will because it s a memory you know that was the point where i woke up and said you know there s probably a lot more out there than just the mass market adjuncts that everybody else is drinking robert c daff and i want to work together with his memory and we re going to try to make a brown that he considers worthy so we ll try to live up to that memory if not we ll hopefully get very close or something that he s happy with jamie gentleman you re chasing the dragon what breweries have had an influence on your brewing or tastes robert d let s see stone was probably one of the ones that really turned me around i m one of those that s a bit of a hophead i love sublimely self righteous i love ruination for that matter lagunitas does some pretty amazing stuff i really really liked lucky 13 when it first came out i m slightly less happy with their reformulation the lucky alt version basically i skew very hoppy california hoppy styles too you know pliny the elder is a wonderful thing ballast point does some wonderful beers me did you have lagunitas sucks i thought that one was really good robert d i did and i thought it was very good of all the holiday beers this year i really thought lagunitas sucks was the best of it in fact i m kind of disappointed because we were supposed to be getting leftovers at some point and i ve never seen them jamie definitely dogfish head it s either hit or miss sometimes with their beers but their bold brewing style and their desire to go way out there is really influential the kind of beer that i really love is the kind of beer that i ve never had before they will usually make something i ve never had before so i m definitely going to go ahead and give it a try samuel adams it s funny that you re wearing a sam adams shirt i was wearing a longshot t shirt because for many years i was a big time snob on samuel adams in that my opinion was that whatever they brewed somebody else brewed better robert c here told me you know you have to look at samuel adams as the stepping stone to craft beer everybody who drinks the budweisers and all of the big lagers and pilsners will then go to samuel adams to get something a try and it ll then open up the door for them but the chocolate bock that they made the 25oz bomber they did with the silver label on it when i had that it just completely changed my mind about them and that was like man this is just an amazing beer the maltiness the chocolate everything just layered perfectly blended perfectly it s like your downtown brown daffin unfortunately now that they ve retooled it and put it out as a part of their winter brewmaster s pick now it s like it s not the same thing and it s really disappointing the other one that really got me and you can t get this in the us when i was traveling across europe 12 years ago i stopped off in salzburg austria and i went to this brewery called the augustiner brewery which was in a converted monastery the beer there and it was most likely just the fact that they gave me a tour of the brewery and just the entire atmosphere of it to watch them take this 3 barrel keg of beer and tap it classic wooden style it was the entire process the entire atmosphere but...