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ignorance by demanding that we not reply to their rants can t run the risk of having the record set straight we can deal with such emails partly because we re confident that for every one of them there are several texans out there who are not overreacting and have done or are doing their homework it s encouraging that brexit has stirred things up in texas a bit the exposure can only strengthen the texas independence movement but the real long term effects of the british vote will surely take some time to manifest themselves but as paul craig roberts has deftly pointed out expect a lot of political and financial muscle to be applied towards negating the brexit vote the matter is far from over posted by mudrostovich at 8 46 am wednesday may 27 2015 a fact free federal funding challenge after the recent flooding that many texas communities experienced due to some extremely heavy rains we received an email asking how do you feel about using federal funds to clean up that flood damage shouldn t you take care of it yourself and prove you are capable the questions might seem superficially legitimate but they ignore at least a couple of relevant facts first texas routinely pays far more to the us federal coffers than it receives from washington so an occasion for washington to return some of those texas funds to texas after a natural disaster is actually a good thing in that it restores some balance to the equation had texans been able to keep that wealth within texas in the first place there would have been more than adequate funding for relief efforts but because washington has been leaching texans wealth for its own agenda for decades it is only fitting that some of that wealth be returned to texas for aiding in the coming months of recovery second it seems at once naïve and presumptuous to suggest that texas should prove itself capable of taking care of a natural disaster recovery by generously telling washington to keep the wealth it has taken from texas and turning instead to whatever resources remain after that plundering were texas already a truly sovereign and independent state there might be a different story to tell but as long as the infrastructure exists wherein washington bleeds productive states like texas to fund their unproductive counterparts the producing states fiscal health has already been handicapped they ve already proven themselves quite capable of sustaining their less productive siblings so there s really no need to prove it again with self imposed austerity until either or both of the above situations change no one should realistically expect texas to do anything less than call on washington to return at least a portion of its plunder to relieve texans of natural disaster losses posted by mudrostovich at 11 45 am friday january 30 2015 secession begins at home by jeff deist this article adapted from a talk presented by jeff deist at the houston mises circle january 24 2015 originally appeared at lewrockwell com presumably everyone in this room or virtually everyone is here today because you have some interest in the topic of secession you may be interested in it as an abstract concept or as a viable possibility for escaping a federal government that americans now fear and distrust in unprecedented numbers as mises wrote in 1927 the situation of having to belong to a state to which one does not wish to belong is no less onerous if it is the result of an election than if one must endure it as the consequence of a military conquest i m sure this sentiment is shared by many of you mises understood that mass democracy was no substitute for liberal society but rather the enemy of it of course he was right nearly 100 years later we have been conquered and occupied by the state and its phony veneer of democratic elections the federal government is now the putative ruler of nearly every aspect of life in america that s why we re here today entertaining the audacious idea of secession an idea mises elevated to a defining principle of classical liberalism it s tempting and entirely human to close our eyes tight and resist radical change to live in america s past but to borrow a line from the novelist l p hartley the past is a foreign country they do things differently there the america we thought we knew is a mirage a memory a foreign country and that ladies and gentlemen is precisely why we should take secession seriously both conceptually as consistent with libertarianism and as a real alternative for the future does anyone really believe that a physically vast multicultural social democratic welfare state of 330 million people with hugely diverse economic social and cultural interests can be commanded from dc indefinitely without intense conflict and economic strife does anyone really believe that we can unite under a state that endlessly divides us rich vs poor black vs white hispanic vs anglo men vs women old vs young secularists vs christians gays vs traditionalists taxpayers vs entitlement recipients urban vs rural red state vs blue state and the political class vs everybody frankly it seems clear the federal government is hell bent on balkanizing america anyway so why not seek out ways to split apart rationally and nonviolently why dismiss secession the pragmatic alternative that s staring us in the face since most of us in the room are americans my focus today is on the political and cultural situation here at home but the same principles of self ownership self determination and decentralization apply universally whether we re considering texas independence or dozens of active breakaway movements in places like venice catalonia scotland and belgium i truly believe secession movements represent the last best hope for reclaiming our birthright the great classical liberal tradition and the civilization it made possible in a world gone mad with state power secession offers hope that truly liberal societies organized around civil society and markets rather than central governments can still exist secession as a bottom up revolution but how could this ever really happen you re probably thinking wouldn t creating a viable secession movement in the us necessarily mean convincing a majority of americans or at least a majority of the electorate to join a mass political campaign much like a presidential election i say no building a libertarian secession movement need not involve mass political organizing in fact national political movements that pander to the left and right may well be hopelessly naïve and wasteful of time and resources instead our focus should be on hyper localized resistance to the federal government in the form of a bottom up revolution as hans hermann hoppe terms it hoppe counsels us to use what little daylight the state affords us defensively just as force is justified only in self defense the use of democratic means is justified only when used to achieve nondemocratic libertarian pro private property ends in other words a bottom up revolution employs both persuasion and democratic mechanisms to secede at the individual family community and local level in a million ways that involve turning our backs on the central government rather than attempting to bend its will secession properly understood means withdrawing consent and walking away from dc not trying to capture it politically and converting the king secession is not a political movement why is the road to secession not political at least not at the national level frankly any notion of a libertarian takeover of the political apparatus in dc is fantasy and even if a political sea change did occur the army of 4 3 million federal employees is not simply going to disappear convincing americans to adopt a libertarian political system even if such an oxymoron were possible is a hopeless endeavor in our current culture politics is a trailing indicator culture leads politics follows there cannot be a political sea change in america unless and until there is a philosophical educational and cultural sea change over the last 100 years progressives have overtaken education media fine arts literature and pop culture and thus as a result they have overtaken politics not the other way around this is why our movement the libertarian movement must be a battle for hearts and minds it must be an intellectual revolution of ideas because right now bad ideas run the world we can t expect a libertarian political miracle to occur in an illibertarian society now please don t get me wrong the philosophy of liberty is growing around the world and i believe we are winning hearts and minds this is a time for boldness not pessimism yet libertarianism will never be a mass which is to say majority political movement some people will always support the state and we shouldn t kid ourselves about this it may be due to genetic traits environmental factors family influences bad schools media influences or simply an innate human desire to seek the illusion of security but we make a fatal mistake when we dilute our message to seek approval from people who seemingly are hardwired to oppose us and we waste precious time and energy what s important is not convincing those who fundamentally disagree with us but the degree to which we can extract ourselves from their political control this is why secession is a tactically superior approach in my view it is far less daunting to convince liberty minded people to walk away from the state than to convince those with a statist mindset to change what about the federales now i know what you re thinking and so does the aforementioned dr hoppe wouldn t the federales simply crush any such attempt at localized secession they surely would like to but whether or not they can actually do so is an entirely different question it is only necessary to recognize that the members of the governmental apparatus always represent even under conditions of democracy a very small proportion of the total population hoppe envisions a growing number of implicitly seceded territories engaging in noncompliance with federal authority without local enforcement by compliant local authorities the will of the central government is not much more than hot air it would be prudent to avoid a direct confrontation with the central government and not openly denounce its authority rather it seems advisable to engage in a policy of passive resistance and noncooperation one simply stops to help in the enforcement in each and every federal law finally he concludes as only hoppe could remember this is the 1990s waco a teeny group of freaks is one thing but to occupy or to wipe out a significantly large group of normal accomplished upstanding citizens is quite another and quite a more difficult thing now you may disagree with dr hoppe as to the degree to which the federal government would actively order military violence to tamp down any secessionist hotspots but his larger point is unassailable the regime is largely an illusion and consent to its authority is almost completely due to fear not respect eliminate the illusion of benevolence and omnipotence and consent quickly crumbles imagine what a committed coordinated libertarian base could achieve in america 10 percent of the us population or roughly thirty two million people would be an unstoppable force of nonviolent withdrawal from the federal leviathan as hoppe posits it is no easy matter for the state to arrest or attack large local groups of citizens and as american history teaches the majority of people in any conflict are likely to be fence sitters rather than antagonists left and right are hypocrites regarding secession one of the great ironies of our time is that both the political left and right complain bitterly about the other but steadfastly refuse to consider once again the obvious solution staring us in the face now one might think progressives would champion the tenth amendment and states rights because it would liberate them from the neanderthal right wingers who stand in the way of their progressive utopia imagine california or massachusetts having every progressive policy firmly in place without any preemptive federal legislation or federal courts to get in their way and without having to share federal tax revenues with the hated red states imagine an experiment where residents of the san francisco bay area were free to live under a political and social regime of their liking while residents of salt lake city were free to do the same surely both communities would be much happier with this commonsense arrangement than the current one whereby both have to defer to washington but in fact progressives strongly oppose federalism and states rights much less secession the reason of course is that progressives believe they re winning and they don t intend for a minute to let anyone walk away from what they have planned for us democracy is the great political orthodoxy of our times but its supposed champions on the left can t abide true localized democracy which is in fact the stated aim of secession movements they re interested in democracy only when the vote actually goes their way and then only at the most attenuated federal level or preferably for progressives the international level the last thing they want is local control over anything they are the great centralizers and consolidators of state authority live and let live is simply not in their dna our friends on the right are scarcely better on this issue many conservatives are hopelessly wedded to the lincoln myth and remain in thrall to the central warfare state no matter the cost as an example consider the scottish independence referendum that took place in september of 2014 some conservatives and even a few libertarians claimed that we should oppose the referendum on the grounds that it would create a new government and thus two states would exist in the place of one but reducing the size and scope of any single state s dominion is healthy for liberty because it leads us closer to the ultimate goal of self determination at the individual level to granting each of us sovereignty over our lives again quoting mises if it were in any way possible to grant this right of self determination to every individual person it would have to be done italics added furthermore some conservatives argue that we should not support secession movements where the breakaway movement is likely to create a government that is more liberal than the one it replaces this was the case in scotland where younger scots who supported the independence referendum in greater numbers hoped to create strong ties with the eu parliament in brussels and build a scandinavian style welfare state run from holyrood never mind that tories in london were overjoyed at the prospect of jettisoning a huge number of labour supporters but if support for the principle of self determination is to have any meaning whatsoever it must allow for others to make decisions 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