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does not mean we can ignore the branch that has been offered this is an opportunity too valuable to scoff at and though the professionalism maturity and sensibility appear to have arrived at a most tardy moment it would be wrong headed to simply turn away it is positively surreal to see bob rae sitting on ctv s question period making sensible comments and suggestions about the importance of providing ongoing security training for the afghan police and army my reaction to mr rae s slap down of craig oliver in second comment here at babbling s post on the matter we can either mock him for his late arrival to table or we can take this opportunity to spur on a much needed discussion about our post 2011 role in afghanistan and maintain our commitments to our allies if the comments of conservative mp james rajotte are any indication there is at least some willingness to do that from within the government upperdate a good recap of some of the political nonsense that has been going on at the canada afghanistan blog with this apposite comment by milnews ca rae seemed to have a good grip on the issue last fall when he spoke during debate in parliament on the issue pdf of 5 oct 09 hansard excerpt at scribd com here well worth the read now what ll it take to get anybody from the government side to speak in this level of detail and clarity posted by anonymous at 7 45 a m 4 comments saturday june 05 2010 operation k2k i ve seen the x rays of my ankles and it looks like a bad junk yard in there with all the screws and pins ocdt shaun fevens read it all update those in the know believe 80 000 was raised to be split between soldier on and providence care rehab hospital in kingston bz to all involved posted by babbling brooks at 12 43 p m 0 comments our first c 130j delivered more fairly soon further to this post first c 130j to arrive trenton friday june 4 the jerc has landed official news release new generation of cc 130j hercules arrives in canada june 4 2010 the first of 17 new cc 130j hercules tactical airlift aircraft landed at 8 wing trenton ont today contributing to the modernization and strengthening of the canadian forces defence minister peter mackay arrives in trenton onboard the new cc 130j hercules credit wo carole morissette bringing back the open cockpit peter the minister of national defence the honourable peter mackay and the minister of public works and government services canada the honourable rona ambrose were present to mark this important milestone the arrival of the first cc 130j hercules aircraft marks a new era in the canadian military bringing with it lasting economic benefits to canada s aerospace and defence industries said the honourable tony clement minister of industry the industrial and regional benefits related to this airlift fleet at 2 3 billion will bring high value and high paying jobs and economic growth to communities across the country pork pork and more pork see also here and here the delivery of the first cc 130j is six months ahead of the original scheduled delivery and under budget emphasis added good on lm and the us government not so much our government more here and remember those who argued we should consider the a400m more here note its first delivery now planned for early 2013 it is another example of how the improved military procurement process ensures that the men and women of the canadian forces get the equipment they need faster while ensuring best value and results for canadians tell it to la marine cc 130s are used in a wide variety of roles including transporting equipment troops and supplies to within and from a theatre of operations the new j model hercules is both proven and improved said major general tom lawson assistant chief of air staff the value of versatile tactical airlift has been clearly demonstrated in recent operations including afghanistan and haiti we will be putting these new aircraft to good use without delay up to four other aircraft are expected this year with the final one to be delivered by 2012 emphasis added good work all 17 cc 130js will be based at 8 wing trenton thus obtaining maximum operational and financial efficiencies from common training maintenance and infrastructure requirements the new cc 130j hercules arrives in trenton photo credit wo carole morissette for comprehensive information consult the backgrounder at http www airforce forces gc ca 8w 8e nr sp index eng asp x 1 id 10623 for more information on technical specifications and imagery visit the air force webpage at www airforce forces gc ca v2 equip cc130j specs eng asp for high resolution imagery of the cc 130j http cc 130j ca update lots more from the trentonian with photos including a lovely one of fresh air peter posted by anonymous at 9 55 a m 3 comments friday june 04 2010 kandahar brig gen vance back major us army reinforcements coming americans going large for this fall s activities whatever one calls them see para before update comment here for timing links added to quote below brig gen jon vance arrived in kandahar on friday morning to take over command of canada s 2 800 troops in afghanistan and south asia the general s return came only five and a half days after he was named by canadian expeditionary force command as an emergency replacement for brig gen daniel menard who was abruptly fired last saturday for alleged sexual misconduct with a female soldier under his command thanks to an influx of american troops ordered by president barack obama vance has a fresh cavalry squadron from the 10th mountain division under his command in dand district see final para of this quote as well as far more american military policemen in kandahar city and the first wave of a brigade of troops from the 101st airborne division to the north and west of the provincial capital i m pretty certain this brigade combat team is not actually under brig gen vance over the next couple of months several more american brigades are expected at least doubling the number of troops in kandahar from perhaps 7 000 today as the american forces arrive it is expected that canada s military focus will narrow considerably eventually concentrating almost entirely on panjwaii district to the west of kandahar city for the moment however vance remains in charge of a powerful joint canadian american force task force kandahar tfk 1st squadron of us army s 71st cavalry regiment has now been included with us units the 1st battalion 12th infantry is no longer listed likely replaced by a battalion from the 101st airborne brigade not under tfk see sixth para of quote here responsible for much of the province which the taliban regard as their spiritual homeland i doubt several more american brigades will be arriving at kandahar over the next few months i would imagine two more to be the limit the us army has had the 5th stryker brigade combat team in the region since last summer the 2nd stryker cavalry regiment some 4 000 troops will replace it this summer the 2nd bct 101st airborne is now arriving that is two us brigades of ground troops two more would make four five brigades with tfk which is now about brigade strength then there is the us army s combat aviation brigade at kaf so maybe six brigades in all and some units not attached to the brigades now a division has traditionally had three brigades so u s major general james terry and his 10th mountain division hq will have their hands rather full when they take charge of reconfigured isaf regional command south this fall update note comment by starbuck time and the us army organizationally marches on upperdate june 14 us army orbat changes 1 zhari district with the combat boot prints of first strike soldiers now upon the rugged terrain of the kandahar province afghanistan the 1st battalion 502nd infantry regiment 2nd brigade combat team 101st airborne division has officially taken control of operations in the zhari district within the kandahar province during a transfer of authority ceremony held at forward operating base wilson may 29 the 1st battalion 12th infantry regiment relinquished its control and responsibility of zhari the new battalion is under us command not cf s task force kandahar as the 1 12 was 2 kaf pegasus soldiers are from the 82nd combat aviation brigade and destiny is from the 101st combat aviation brigade the 82nd is transferring authority to the 101st in regional command south more here here and here posted by anonymous at 6 54 p m 3 comments afghanistan and the turkish flotilla incident start of conference of defence associations media round up peter goodspeed for the national post writes that isaf s approaching campaign in kandahar the heartland of the taliban insurgency will be a decisive battle in the mission http www nationalpost com news world story html id 3084975 russell hampsey and sean p mckenna for the armed forces journal argue that coin practitioners in afghanistan need to listen and respond to afghan concerns instead of telling them what they need http www afji com 2010 06 4646076 the strategy page reports that all services operating in afghanistan have been ordered to adopt the coin strategy developed by general stanley mcchrystal and informed by generations of us army special forces experience http www strategypage com htmw htsf articles 20100528 aspx miles amoore for times interviews naimatullah a taliban bomb maker and trainer who explains the process and the will behind their determination to murder western infidels http www timesonline co uk tol news world afghanistan article7140135 ece anthony lloyd for times writes that afghan intelligence believes million of dollars from saudi arabia have sponsored terrorism in the country http www timesonline co uk tol news world afghanistan article7140745 ece radio free europe interviews general stanley mcchrystal who reconfirms his commitment to security in afghanistan http www rferl org content top_nato_commander_talks_of_recent_taliban_gains global security argues that the omission of taliban members at the upcoming consultative peace jirga coupled with a search for quick fixes represents a flawed strategy and according to afghan expert khalil roman we must know the price for peace http news globaltv com world story html id 3095114 posted by anonymous at 3 00 p m 0 comments cf in afstan post 2011 pm still the biggest stumbling block that s what he may be as matthew fisher of canwest news put it see this post maybe the cf could stay in afstan post 2011 after all looks like some opposition politicos may be getting reasonable mr harper s latest i think we ve been very clear we re working according to the parliamentary resolution that was adopted in 2008 by which canada s military mission will end and will transition to a civilian and development mission at the end of 2011 and that continues to be our workplan according to the resolution adopted by parliament but he s not telling the truth the problem is the commons motion not a parliamentary one of march 12 2008 makes no mention of the cf s leaving afghanistan it refers only to kandahar this extension of canada s military presence in afghanistan is approved by this house expressly on the condition that c the government of canada notify nato that canada will end its presence in kandahar as of july 2011 and as of that date the redeployment of canadian forces troops out of kandahar and their replacement by afghan forces start as soon as possible so that it will have been completed by december 2011 the government is simply lying there is sadly no other word when it says the motion demands the military mission will come to an end in 2011 update thought can t the fellow even try to get yes for an answer what must secretary of state clinton think upperdate one colonel s view canadians could train afghans after 2011 military the canadian military is capable of training afghan security forces past 2011 but it could be a challenging task depending on the number of experienced personnel required the leader of canada s mentoring teams in afghanistan said friday col ian creighton who became commander of canada s operational and mentoring liaison teams they go outside the wire and fight alongside the afghans see middle of this post plus here and here not what is now envisaged for a post 2011 training mission see following para a month ago said the canadian forces could continue training the afghan police and army if ottawa decided in favour of it could we do training up in kabul or some place like that at some training centre we are in fact already sending a fairly small number of inside the wire trainers to kabul sure absolutely if that s where the government wants to go creighton said how many not sure creighton said maintaining a training role could be difficult depending on the number of canadian military leaders who would be needed if you ve got a force of 200 trainers that s like two battalions worth of leaders he said posted by anonymous at 12 19 p m 3 comments the torch is a 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