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osi board meeting minutes october 20 2006 open source initiative 56 captures 17 may 2008 30 aug 2025 nov dec jan 01 2021 2022 2023 success fail about this capture timestamps the wayback machine http web archive org web 20221201140302 https opensource org minutes20061020 skip to main content home contact login search form open source initiative about board minutes organization operations articles of incorporation board elections bylaws conflict of interest volunteers staff associations history international authority recognition trademark logo trademark guidelines logo guidelines licenses open source definition licenses by category licenses by name license review process licence proliferation lp report to the board open standards the open standards requirement open standards requirement compliance open standards requirement rationale osr frequently asked questions membership become an osi member membership faq affiliates become an affiliate affiliate criteria mailing lists licensing code of conduct general code of conduct discussion list reports disclaimer for osi public forums policy on public communications and archives resources getting help bibliography open source case for business faq open source education articles books blog sponsors join osi board meeting minutes october 20 2006 special topic attribution licenses attendees mr michael tiemann president ms danese cooper secretary mr russ nelson director mr matt asay director ms laura majerus legal affairs observer mr mark radcliffe counsel observer mr ernest prabhakar board observer ms michelle matsubara guest from dla piper mr bruno ferreira de souza director mr david axmark board observer agenda problems people not submitting modified mpl licenses to osi and yet still calling themselves open source osi can t consider unless someone submits or we change our rules no definition of attribution that bounds behavior there are 3 existing osi licenses that allow attribution attribution as an historic foss topic the university of california uc clause vs the situation today application layer code handling of conflict of interest intent does osi consider this or effect the question is not can companies make a business without attribution the question is how does attribution influence the open source effect uc was an advertising clause problem these don t require advertising they require screen display when using the code who is using these licenses folks who have successfully used attributed code mr asay has a list zimbra clusters sugarcrm socialtext thriving group of users perfectly happy to reuse this code are there any who are unaffiliated with the code originators bias on the board mr asay works for alfresco who use an attribution licence mr radcliffe wrote the sugarcrm zimbra clusters and socialtext licenses ms majerus has clients using these licenses is there a new climate of acceptance for attribution related attribution issues firefox vs debian and or fedora trademark overseas desire for clear guidelines on attribution hackers want credit for their work and they ve all heard and agree with mr richard stallman s founder of the free software foundation fsf appeal for credit gnu linux mr linus torvalds creator of linux discussion of fsf desire to pull through attribution gnu linux one of his reasons for choosing open source over freedom what are the mechanical problems with attribution mr axmark has concerns about the cumulative effect of multiple attribution clauses mr tiemann says we could add a commentary to the osd concerning how attribution can be bounded ms majerus is concerned about the effect of commentaries to complicate the osd is there a difference between infrastructure and application layer software mr asay says the web 2 0 world requires a different sort of attribution than source mr tiemann says that attribution shouldn t include warranty or other ancillary issues pulled through alfresco is an example of going too far warranty requirements mr stallman s gnu linux campaign is another change of license discuss process to allow consideration of licenses not submitted by the author mr tiemann wants to put this off for later but osi will have to decide before we publicly comment on attribution next steps development of a party line we need to get as much data on attribution as we can plus mozilla statement ms cooper socialtext will probably submit a license in the next two weeks or so mr radcliffe ask mr eben moglen legal counsel fsf whether fsf will submit gplv3 mr radcliffe can we develop a good and narrow definition of attribution mr tiemann ask ms pam jones groklaw whether she ll help us explain attribution and trademark law to the hacker community mr tiemann pr treatment of the issue ms cooper and ms sally khudairi osi board observer solicit comment from mr chris dibona google ms cooper draft faq by friday after thanksgiving ms majerus adjournment meeting adjourned at 10 00 pdt you must have javascript enabled to use this form user login 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