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pportunities from across the wordpress ecosystem if you d like to invest or get involved drop us a line at newspack automattic com tags journalism kinsey wilson local news categories open source the wix mobile app a wordpress joint post author by matt post date october 28 2016 120 comments on the wix mobile app a wordpress joint anyone who knows me knows that i like to try new things phones gadgets apps last week i downloaded the new wix closed proprietary non open sourced non gpl mobile app i m always interested to see how others tackle the challenge of building and editing websites from a mobile device i started playing around with the editor and felt déjà vu it was familiar like i had used it before turns out i had because it s wordpress if i were being charitable i d say the app s editor is based on the wordpress mobile app s editor if i were being honest i d say that wix copied wordpress without attribution credit or following the license the custom icons the class names even the bugs you can see the forked repositories on github complete with original commits from alex and maxime two developers on automattic s mobile team wix has always borrowed liberally from wordpress including their company name which used to be wixpress ltd but this blatant rip off and code theft is beyond anything i ve seen before from a competitor dear wix this explicitly contravenes the gpl which requires attribution and a corresponding gpl license on whatever you release publicly built on top of gpl code the gpl is what has allowed wordpress to flourish and that let us create this code your app s editor is built with stolen code so your whole app is now in violation of the license i suppose we ll take this as a compliment i m sure the hundreds of people who have contributed to wordpress core and our mobile apps are flattered that you chose to build one of your company s core features using our code we re also excited to see what great things you create with all the time you saved not having to write your own mobile editor you know what d be even more exciting to see you abide by the gpl and release your source code back to the community that gave you that jump start i ve always said that the gpl isn t about limits it s about possibilities in open source software you trade some of your control as a developer to better serve the developer community and the people using your sites and products i don t think that s a limit i think it s a way to make sure we encourage innovation and momentum if you want to close the door on innovation wix that s your decision to make just write your own code if you re going to join the open source community play by the open source rules release your app under the gpl and put the source code for your app up on github so that we can all build on it improve it and learn from it love matt and the open source community an update the ceo of wix has posted a response on their blog i ll also try to post my response it to the comments there miriam schwab also has a very good response we were all very surprised by your post as you have so many claims against us wow dude i did not even know we were fighting it s not a fight the claim is that the wix mobile apps distribute gpl code and aren t themselves gpl so they violate the license first you say we have been taking from the open source community without giving back well of course that isn t true here is a list of 224 projects on our public github page and as you can see they are all dated before your post we have not checked if wordpress is using them but you are more than welcome to do so some of them are pretty good very glad your company has projects on github thank you for the offer to use them if we do we ll make sure to follow the license you ve put on the code very carefully releasing other open source projects doesn t mean that you can violate the license of the editor code you distributed in your mobile apps to repeat my earlier points since you distributed gpl code with your apps the entire apps need to be released at gpl not just your modifications to that one library as this hacker news comment put it open source is not a swap meet you can t violate a license if you voluntarily release some other code to make up for it we always shared and admired your commitment to give back which is exactly why we have those 224 open source projects and thousands more bugs improvements available to the open source community and we will release the app you saw as well if you were to release the entire source code of the apps under gpl that would bring you back into compliance with the license you violated i think you re saying you will do that here but can you clarify when should we look for the app code to be released and where that would resolve this issue completely next you talk about the wix app being stolen from wordpress there are more than 3 million lines of code in the wix application notably the hotels blogs chat ecommerce scheduling booking is all our code i said the app includes stolen code it doesn t matter if it s 30 lines or 30 million lines because it includes gpl code and you distributed the app the entire thing needs to be gpl if you release the entire app s code as i think you said you would then that resolves the license violation yes we did use the wordpress open source library for a minor part of the application that is the concept of open source right and everything we improved there or modified we submitted back as open source see here in this link you should check it out pretty cool way of using it on mobile native i really think you guys can use it with your app and it is open source so you are welcome to use it for free and by the way the part that we used was in fact developed by another and modified by you thank you for admitting you used the code and not trying to hide it the issue isn t the changes you made it s that including the editor means you need to submit the entire app as open source which you have not yet it s completely proprietary if you want to read the account from tal kol one of the leading engineers on this project here it is he was really happy to share his side of the story i have seen it and it already has a number of good comments on it including this one can you address this point made in matt s post this explicitly contravenes the gpl which requires attribution and a corresponding gpl license on whatever you release publicly built on top of gpl code it appears you and tal might share a misunderstanding of how the gpl works software licensing can be tricky and many people make honest mistakes if you want to get into serious detail this comment lays the licensing requirements out clearly it is easy to rectify this one release your apps as open source under the gpl now what is this thing about us stealing your branding our product was always called wix and our website wix com we never borrowed from your marketing or brand sorry for including this distraction i was referring specifically to the fact that wix used to go by wixpress you can see this in your form f 1 and there used to be a support page about this on your site although that is still in google the page it links to now mysteriously returns a 404 error which you may want to look into in fact if i remember correctly until recently the automattic home page was all about blogs and only recently it has become websites also your business model changed to almost exactly the one we had for years can it be that you guys are borrowing from us if so again you are welcome to it the automattic home page has been a series of haiku about our products since 2009 pretty much unchanged i think you mean the wordpress com home page here wordpress has been used for creating websites not just blogs since our 1 5 release in 2005 added themes and pages in my 2014 state of the word address i talked about how 87 of wordpress sites use it as a cms we regularly test dozens of variations of the wp com homepage and some of them definitely emphasize website creation i will say we look to wix weebly and squarespace as innovators in the space with products that reach many small businesses and wix especially should be commended for its success and growth as a public company if you believe that we need to give you credit that you deserve credit i must say absolutely yes you guys deserve a lot of credit but not because of a few lines of source code you deserve credit because you guys have been making the internet dramatically better and for that we at wix are big fans we love what you have been trying to do and are working very hard to add our own contribution to make the internet better thank you very much that is kind i do think there are a lot of values we share in common and would love to see this one issue resolved if you need source code that we have and we have not yet released then most likely we will be happy to share you only need to ask we share your belief that making the internet better is best for everyone that s what my post was asking for you to release the code to quote my original letter release your app under the gpl and put the source code for your app up on github so that we can all build on it improve it and learn from it finally during the last couple of years i reached out a couple of times trying to meet with you could i do that again here i believe in friendly competition and as much fun as it is to chat over the blogosphere maybe we can also do it over a cup of coffee once this is resolved i d be happy to meet up i believe when we exchanged emails in 2014 there was trouble finding overlap in our travel schedules i hope the above clarifies where we think wix made a mistake and how to fix it categories automattic essays open source wordpress a new home for the wordpress trademark post author by matt post date september 9 2010 105 comments on a new home for the wordpress trademark as i write this i m on my way to seaside florida to see 60 automatticians at our yearly meetup more than sixty that number astounds me automattic has grown so far beyond what i originally imagined and every day i m amazed by my colleagues and the things they create today we re growing in another way automattic has transferred the wordpress trademark to the wordpress foundation the non profit dedicated to promoting and ensuring access to wordpress and related open source projects in perpetuity this means that the most central piece of wordpress s identity its name is now fully independent from any company this is a really big deal i want to recognize and applaud the courage and foresight of automattic s board investors and legal counsel who made this possible mike hirshland phil black tony conrad toni schneider gunderson dettmer i d also like to thank matt bartus of dorsey whitney for their counsel on the foundation side the wordpress brand has grown immeasurably in the past 5 years and it s not often you see a for profit company donate one of their most valuable core assets and give up control however i know in my heart that this is the right thing for the entire wordpress community and they followed me on that it wasn t easy but things worth doing seldom are when automattic registered the wordpress trademark back in 2006 we were a small startup of a few people a business founded largely to enable us to work on wordpress full time instead of hacking around our day jobs a lot has changed since then somehow along the way we ended up with an audience of a quarter billion people but a lot has stayed the same we re still a group of people in love with wordpress and free open source software and we re lucky to have figured out a way to contribute to the world and flourish as a business while doing it automattic might not always be under my influence so from the beginning i envisioned a structure where for profit non profit and not just for profit could coexist and balance each other out it s important for me to know that wordpress will be protected and that the brand will continue to be a beacon of open source freedom regardless of whether any company is as benevolent as automattic has been thus far it s important to me to know that we ve done the right thing hopefully it s important to you too and you ll continue your support of wordpress the wordpress foundation and automattic s products and services we couldn t do it without you tags trademark wordpress foundation categories open source facebook mcafee post author by matt post date january 13 2010 30 comments on facebook mcafee facebook is offering its users a 6 month free trial of mcafee and promoting it heavily and even forcing people to run a scan before they can reactivate a hacked account they re not aware of another free internet service that takes this much responsibility for helping people keep their accounts secure didn t google promote mcafee through google pack at one point i think this is a laudable step more security is intrinsically good but i have to suspect this is more about revenue than security they will probably make many millions of dollars from their users installing or buying mcafee as a result of this modern versions of windows include free tools like defender which are just as good and appear to have less of a performance impact on the computer but if they really wanted to have a long term impact on desktop as a vector for attack on web services i m surprised they didn t start sponsor or promote an open source equivalent of mcafee this seems like a space very well suited to address with an os tool in the digital commons much like a windows anti spyware equivalent of spamassassin with self updating rules and a completely transparent process categories asides open source open source tax credit post author by matt post date march 18 2006 7 comments on open source tax credit is an open source tax credit a good idea tags taxes categories open source search wordpress new wp org search post author by matt post date june 17 2005 33 comments on new wp org search at the last irc meetup the wordpress community asked for better search that included both the forums and the codex and was integrated with the look and feel of the rest of the site when i did this before it was horribly slow and it involved several queries across several different programs and mysql hosts to get the results from the wiki the forums the blog and then splice them together somehow later we switched to a plain google site search but they didn t like the html we used for the search form so we took it down well after the meeting i remembered yahoo developer network which had some sort of api for their search with a much higher limit than google s i went to the site to see how much of a pain it would be so i could start properly procrastinating but i was taken aback by how incredibly easy it was to get an application id and start getting the results back as simple xml i began hacking on it right then it was about 5 minutes to set up a search form 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