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lar at the 5000 fb friends limit and who has created a group called sam shropshire group bottom line the facebook bots have shut down his personal account on the grounds of spamming now it may be that sam inadvertently clicked on a phishing link which took over his account and began spamming people sam changed his password within 30 minutes or it may be the faulty design of the new facebook groups whenever you add someone to a group the default setting is for group messages to be forwarded to that persons e mail as a result sam added a number of people who are not experienced enough with internet or facebook to know how to go to the group click on group settings and uncheck the email notification box or reduce notifications to only threads i subscribe to as a result people who feel frustrated may possibly click on messages as spam once the bots robotic programs see enough spam reports they shut down your account for a certain period of days facebook should have designed groups so that the default setting is no email notification and then allow experienced users to go into the group and increase the level of notification if they so desire i am tagging those people who are very active in facebook groups pages etc so they will be aware of this potential issue obviously facebook has millions of users so the only way it can be policed or administered is by bot programs which monitor keystrokes and usage hence anyone who values their facebook account must be aware of the dangers of losing it if it is programmaticly shut down then it is doubtful that one will be able to appeal to a live support representative though i could well be mistaken in this posted in facebook software leave a comment computer algorithms july 11 2010 barbara there s an amazing paper by what s his name mackenzie about the multiple definitions of 0 that computing has brought us to read it late last semester and was much impressed with his skill set for a ssk guy he really did his homework here s the abstract and citation the first part of this paper discusses floating point arithmetic as performed by computers and advanced digital calculators it shows that different computer arithmetics have been proposed and that the nearest approximation to a consensual computer arithmetic the institute of electrical and electronics engineers standard for floating point arithmetic had to be negotiated ratherthan deduced from existing human arithmetic the second part of the paper discusses mathematical proof of the correctness ofprograms and hardware designs which is increasingly being demanded for systems crucial to safety or security it argues that this extension of the domain of application of mathematical proof involves the negotiation of what a proof consists in in 1987 this argument led the author and colleagues to predict a legal case concerning the nature of mathematical proof such litigation took place in 1991 the key point at issue is described more general disagreement about proof as applied to computer systems is also discussed a further prediction is made that there will be litigation concerning not just what kind of argument counts as a proof but over the internal structure of formal proofs mackenzie donald negotiating arithmetic constructing proof the sociology of mathematics and information technology _social studies of science_ 23 no 1 feb 1993 37 65 william replies barbara thanks so much for taking the time to post this interesting abstract which i have read several times i remember some time in the 1970s hearing about some space program failure due to a floating point inaccuracy in a compiler for some reason you post has reminded me about http en wikipedia org wiki hypercomputation and http en wikipedia org wiki halting_problem i was also reminded of certain debates as to what constituted an admirable mathematical proof the complaint that the 4 color proof was inelegant for using so much computer output or that wiles s 300 plus page proof of fermat s last theorem is simply too long the litigation aspect is very interesting as well as disputes over intellectual property morris kine s books is useful to inspire all these thoughts i wonder if being reality universe is ultimately knowable in some reductionist sense in that it can be precisely digitized in some grand unifying theory or is the task of the mathematical physician endless meaning that being reality is something holistic which comprises more than all its seeming individual parts furthermore our insatiable desire to know via dangerous experiments like c e r n seems faustian in that we are willing to risk destroying this world which we have in the hopes of completely understanding a world which we have destroyed through our process of analysis and industrial revolution when 9 children wearing green sneakers encounter one child wearing white sneakers hatred ad hominem bullying and ostracism or even physical violence ensues each of our faculties has some natural purpose which promotes our survival i believe it is the 4th psalm which says something like be angry and sin not weep upon your bed for what you say in your hearts from the greek septuagint version ancient theologians point to this form of anger as righteous but each of our faculties taken out of context and moderation and proportion becomes something very destructive hunger becomes gluttony natural desire becomes lust curiosity and inventiveness become overweening pride those who choose to take seriously the judaeo christian scriptures cannot ignore the assertions therein that 1 the poor shall always be with you and 2 until the last days their shall always be wars and rumors of war these two facts if they are indeed facts are puzzling in the face of injunctions to the virtue of peace making that they are blessed and alms giving to provide comfort to the poor we know from the commandment thou shalt not steal that private property and hence capitalism is scriptural and communism in its purest form is not by the way the 900 page catholic catechism stresses this point about private property we see from the book of revelation that up until the very last there shall be merchants who bemoan the lack of sales which implies that there is free market capitalism until the end and yet we notice that small infants seem to love and trust indiscriminately and we are told that unless we become like these small children we shall in no wise enter the kingdom of heaven and kingdom implies that heaven is not a democracy kant was the very first to conjecture that some stars are actually entire galaxies of stars some suggest that the results of quantum and relativity prove kant wrong in his assertions regarding space and time i am intrigued by something that sartre says somewhere to the effect that if it were not for nothingness and perhaps undecidability then everything would be such a plenum that freedom would not be possible hence we are doomed to be free now talmudic thought takes a similar tact in the notion of tsim tsum or divine withdrawal namely that g d is such a fullness completeness that g d must contract or withdraw to make a makom place for being reality this is why it is written that g d is not in the universe rather g d is the place makom of the universe somehow undecidability and indefiniteness and uncertainty are at the heart of our existential freedom the ball is always in our court and the buck never stops i once blogged about mortality and discord as survival advantages of our species if we were all capable agreeing upon one single important issue then we might not have chosen to wander and diversify into every ecological and ideological niche and the fact that individuals die are mortal means that there will always be idealistic youths whose kaleidoscopic and infinitely varied imaginations will always see the same old things in new and different ways i am glad i spoke at some length with my filipina catholic wife about your concern for this muslim woman and your anti abortion stance as well as your conservative political views i imagine you share much in common with her since she goes to mass every day and prays the hours of divine office i may be inaccurate in this phrase and i mention that she is from the philippines because anyone who knows that culture knows that for the majority roman catholic piety is deeply ingrained in the very fabric of their character just as theravadin buddhism is for a majority of sri lanka and hinduism is for a majority of those in india i realize that i am very much to the left and perhaps not most logical choice for your fb friends list but i would jump to the assistance of anyone with a need or question such as yours regardless of their political or ideological affiliation and i do feel it is most constructive for each of us to seek out the association of those who greatly differ from us in important regards rather than to surround ourselves only with those who are in like minded agreement with us it is only the tension of our diversity which sparks and inspires us out of the rut of our complacency william does mathematics deal with independently existing platonic eidetic reality or is mathematics merely the byproduct of human conceptions constructions and methods of axiomatic predication http math stanford edu feferman papers deciding pdf justine writes do you mean do numbers and their relationships exist independently of human consciousness given the interaction of subatomic particles to make up elements i would say yes though it does not seem a very useful question rather like does the tree falling in the woods make a sound william responds justine i appreciate the spirit and good intention with which you post and the relativistic koan like problems inherent in language but the very human enterprise of model theory and the quest for a g u t grand unifying theory and string theory are very real and will ultimately result in a positive resolution or else a godel like demonstration that a such a resolution is impossible but the likes of you justine and i william the likes of us are not of sufficient intellectual stature to realize such a resolution on our own steam we shall only appreciate the truths which a select few have fully comprehended while watching a nova episode or someone like carl sagan but justine i suspect that the intellectual character and stance of those who do succeed in such a resolution will share more in common with my essential nature than with your essential nature since with all due respect you content yourself with dismissing the importance of some question which bothers you through a casuistic maneuver and then you remain right there resting upon your tinsel laurels while my nature is to always ignore people like you and gorgias and like the energizer bunny i just keep on going trying now i know what i have said will seem a bit harsh or unkind but it is my desire to address ideas and not individuals and i have no dale carnegie aspirations to win friends and influence people but i do value your interest and readership thank you link and read the article carefully one of the most important questions raised in the above link is is human understanding unlimited anyone who feels this question is trivial or impossible to discuss is not really fit to enter into the discussion socrates put it in a nutshell when he said that those who presume to already know the answer or all the answers will not make a sincere effort at inquiry i went through 4 years of st john s and i would do it all over i met a few people who were truly intellectually honest and would directly and aggressively take a stand on something important but i met a lot more phonies who made it through 4 years just wrinkling their nose in seminar and saying but i dont get it how can you say all of the world is basically divided into a few limb crawlers and a multitude of limb sawyers a limb crawler has the courage and ambition to crawl way out on a limb and take a risk assembling together many and various points and passages in order to assert something new something important limb sawyers are a parasitic species they cannot exist without a limb crawler they hack away at whatever constructive effort the limb crawler is making if they succeed what they succeed in is simply refuting the limb crawler jay writes i always felt that questions of existence were ill or vaguely posed what would be the criteria to meet in order to exist in the eidetic reality steven writes ms saracen and mr hales seem to have a point and mr buell despite being spot on should seem more contrite as a result william replies personal friendship between einstein and kurt godel search on articles which explain the fundamental difference in the way that einstein saw mathematics vs the way godel saw it i read a lot of that a long time ago and it helped me to see some things godel definitely held the platonic view that the objects of mathematics had some ideal existence like plato s forms and that somehow reality was a shadow or penumbra einstein had the opposite view einstein also made one off hand remark which i find utterly intriguing einstein said that it is impossible for anyone to inductively arrive at the theory of relativity from empirical observations i am paraphrasing from memory what i read many years ago this means that although the existence of rabbits in no way violates the principles of quantum physics one cannot study rabbits and inductively intuit quantum poker obeys the laws of statistics and probability but one would not study statistics and probability to learn how to play poker i may be totally wrong in how i took einstein s off hand remark but here is how i took it the human imagination is a kalaidescope of non being horned rabbits and unicorns which can churn out a countless number of different axiomatic systems suddenly one day someone or perhaps several people simply stumble upon an odd coincidence in mathematics which closely resemble some empirical observations next they get something which kind of seems to work like ptolemy s epicycles you can make a lot of accurate calculations up to a point but then the question becomes does our mathematical model reveal something about the underlying nature of the observed phenomena ptolemy called in sozein ta phainomena saving the observations ptolemy got close copernicus closer kepler closer still newton seemed to be right on the money but then things break down on an inter galactic or sub atomic scenario einstein gets closer still but well i think you get my point and if you dont get my point by now then you dont have the foundation to even read about this stuff i am not the person to put a bib on anyone and spoon feed them because i am intellectually and academically limited in fact i am an over achiever since i do not really have the credentials or training to speak authoritatively on these things the mistake that many people younger people make is to think that 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