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nt upon it i am moderately happy with the look of it on the whole my experience using the aves magic sculpt was not as plain sailing as i thought it would have been i find it a little soft with an awkward curing cycle as well as a lower level of adhesion that i am used to with other mediums another negative for me with this time of two part epoxy putty is it solubility with water this in my opinion takes away the best lubricant known to pasters too much and you run the risk of slurry adding oil or talcum powder also creates problems for the way i apply the putty i will try the sheet rolled method at some point when i finish the factory style application procedure with various mediums back soon panther or tiger 1 you decide what is next upon the menu cheers phil posted by unknown at 03 46 3 comments thursday 29 july 2010 eyes front and rear hello again zimmfans well without pause i think that is best that we get underway again don t you i am slowly finding my way with the aves epoxy sculpt normally i use tamiya epoxy putty smooth and this goes down onto the surface with a little more tack and is stiffer allowing a rolled or imprinted pattern to be put down instantly the aves is extremely soft and needs some time to part cure before you attempt to place a zimmerit pattern into it another drawback with this medium in my opinion is that being water soluble this negates the liberal use of it as a lubricant the most harmless in modelling during spreading the putty and stopping grab from the zimmerit applicators the turrets glacis face on the porsche krupp prototype turret has a really attractive near aerodynamic form to it whilst the production series turret has a far more brutal blunt aspect as mentioned above the characteristics of the turret in dml kt 6312 and the properties of the aves putty created a little difficulty in applying an even surface ready for the patterns imprinting so to the pasting parlour then folks spread to a thickness of around 0 5mm the putty is left to cure a little around 45 90 minutes depending upon your local atmospherics when you fell that a workable soft yet firm surface has been achieved you can start imprinting the pattern for this aspect of the turret i used a 3mm flat headed screwdriver it is essential that the imprinted pattern is pushed into the medium starting from the top and at an angle of around 45 degrees like so with a steady movement of the screwdriver head you can now move onto the next column slightly overlapping into the adjacent row if you look carefully the outer edges of the pattern have been neatened with a roller tool now instantly moving onto the rear hull plate i have decided that after looking at images of zimmerited tiger ausf b s a varied application of patterns can be seen gear rolled on the larger un obstructed areas and spatula raised ridges around the access panels and obstructions once again after the surface was roughened up a touch the aves putty was spread and levelled with an artist s palette knife spatula to a desired depth of 0 5mm 0 7mm to avoid an overly deep messy appearance to the pattern right my fellow panzer pasters it is onto the rear of the turret and the main gun s mantlet thanks for looking in again phil i posted by unknown at 02 23 1 comment wednesday 7 july 2010 2nd pattern curious marks well finally back at the pasting table so without further procrastinations lets get the second type of zimmerit pattern applied to the posh uber panther sorry prototype krupp turreted tiger ausf b the aves apoxy was once more spread upon the roughened sanded hull plates glacis and hull side plates with an artists palette knife after pushing pea sized lumps of the putty into the area you are pasting to a depth of ideally 5 7mm i have found that wetting the surface slightly aids the final smoothing process you can leave the spread epoxy putty to cure for half an hour or so thus aiding it s adhesion to the styrene and removing some of it s softness that will not aid the pattern being applied prior to the imprinting of the smaller ridges with the lion roar zimmerit tool take you time on this as the pattern is generally uniform with some narrower vertical columns where an obstacle has been encountered or a correction in the angle slightly to keep the rows fairly straight to the vertical aspects 1 pea sized lumps of putty applied 2 roughly applied with thumb and fingers 3 smoothed with spatula palette knife 4 zimmerit applied with lion roar tool 5 sehr gut now the glacis plate upon a lot of royal tigers had these curious vertical tramlines running down the plate sometimes a couple and and occasionally four it has been suggested that this was because of the need for ladders so that the staff could reach all of the glacis plate when applying the zimmerit i am not altogether convinced on this surely the fitting platforms and gantries could have been used perhaps but the one thing that leads my train of thought away from this view is the actual pattern itself when you look closely at this occurrence on quite a few konigstiger you will see that the rolled pattern of ridges have been dissected with the applied vertical lines and matches laterally to itself and neighbouring columns rather than being re applied over any missing or flattened areas though in theory a ladder could have been used if it was fitted with stand off plates or vanes that disrupted the pattern with minimal effect but when you look at the kt s with four of these tramlines they are seldom very regular in their placement different sized ladders maybe perhaps that is just an illusion or my tired old eyes or channels to aid dispersion of atmospherics such as rain and melting snow that could undermine any damage to the pattern causing it to come away in huge chunks as can be seen on many tiger 1 s stationed on the ostfront aiding a field re application within a smaller area well whatever they are you can apply them by cutting into the cured zimmerit pattern with a blade or impress them into the wet putty if you did not forget to do so unlike myself once again study the pattern of the vehicle you are aiming to represent and with a little time practice and patience i can guarantee you will get the look and feel that you desire think logically how the worker when applying the zimmerit in the factories would have got around obstacles etc as i don t believe quality control were all that bothered with the aesthetics of the finished pattern as long as it met the order for it s application well i had best get cracking on with the final pattern to be applied this spatula applied pattern was fount upon the mantlet the majority of the rear hull plate kugelblende and the turret s rear plate and hatch thanks phil posted by unknown at 03 26 no comments sunday 13 june 2010 first pattern on welcome back everyone in the recent past i have tended just to use tamiya smooth epoxy putty but with a thirst for new techniques tools and mediums forever driving my interest in zimmerit and it s application relating to the final look of the vehicle i have decided to try other putties and materials despite being very happy with the tamiya smooth but i have noted that a lot of modellers are getting some outstanding results with the aves epoxy putties so why not give it a try as mentioned previously for this build aves apoxie sculpt is being used this two part epoxy putty coves in various sizes that suit all pockets and a few different shades to give the modeller taxidermist sculptor repairer a choice of base colour or match to the item it is being applied to i suppose in theory i should have chosen a yellow ochre variety in order to give as true to life application as possible but then i would have had to paint the afv in a dark brown black for the armour plate areas with a covering of rot oxid prior to the zimmerits application and as a lot of my other builds are quite protracted affairs this tiger will be built almost straight from the box before i continue are there any major or minor detail areas that need refining i know of the pry bar aperture on the engine bay access door hatch i was wondering about the turret face gun sights did this later run of krupp porsche turreted tiger b s have the binocular or monocular sight aperture right then without further ado let us get to pasting after a few experiments with the apoxie sculpt i found that this epoxy putty is very soft yet not overly tacky it will adhere to an unprepared styrene surface but it will ease the application if the surface it is to be applied to is roughened up a little prior to the putty being spread next mixing up a large pea sized lump of the apoxie sculpt in equal parts i split the lump into two petit pois sized portions and began to work the putty onto the turret s sides with my thumb and finger a little water to moisten the apoxie sculpt helps this process when you have covered the area that is to receive the zimmerit pattern take a smoothing tool of your choice i tend to utilise artists palette knives but small craft spatulas sculpting tools and even cocktail sticks can all be used in order to cajole the putty into an evenish thin layer remember that on the actual vehicles that were given this protective surface coating it was not overly applied in a heavy thick coat due to weight concerns and that the surface disruption caused to any magnetic mine grenade was due to a combination of factors relating to the properties of the zimmerit paste and the patterns surface creating an awkward adhesion point plus the effect that raising the paste in ridges grids created a magnetic void by not allowing the mines magnets to make any firm contact with a ferrous surface a little more water and work with your tool of choice and you should easily be able to achieve the desired putty thickness of between 0 5 08mm any thicker and you risk the creation of excess putty causing build up on the patterns vertical columns when satisfied with your applied layer of putty go and put the kettle on grab your gear roller step back think about your references any particular difficult appear upon the surface that you might encounter and you will be ready to start applying your zimmerit coating pattern if you wait for around half an hour the putty will have very slightly hardened upon the surface making it easier to imprint the ridges into the apoxie sculpt without removing any of the fresh extremely soft and tacky moistened putty start your application of your ridged pattern at either end of the turret side plate by rolling with your thumb or finger the gear in both up and down motions overlapping the columns this probably only relates to this particular pattern though as i have not seen much pictorial evidence of such over rolling and meshing of the pattern upon the smaller hull and more commonly applied smaller turret pattern upon the kt applied ridges only that the pattern would be a bit untidy around fixings mounted to the armour plates again check your final covering against your references and when happy with your pattern put it aside to dry cure so the first part of this three pattern application done next up the hull thank you all for checking this zimmerit blog out back real soon cheers phil posted by unknown at 02 44 3 comments tuesday 8 june 2010 the victim awaits welcome back pasting pals well the subject has been assembled ready for it s application of zimmerit these kt s were huge eh i think it puts into context how heavily protected yet fairly compact the tiger 1 was will you notice that i have opted for the apoxie sculpt this is a two part epoxy putty available in many colours and in various sizes it is a very malleable putty quite soft with an average curing time it is water soluble but not as much as say milliput also of note in the image above is the holes drilled for the stowage and track hanging location points these are re drilled from the rear when the putty has hardened so the clamps etc area of affixing can be cleared back to styrene giving an easier time when gluing i have received a couple of e mails i received have asked about how i will achieve the heavier pattern often seen on the turret of the tiger 1 and very rarely on the surfaces of other vehicles for this i have used in the past the inertia gear from a set of roller blinds or venetian blinds these are located in the pull string mechanism on the main housing of the blinds though i hope to achieve a slightly less deep pattern on the krupp porsche kt turret as i believe that it was not as heavily applied as it was upon the tiger 1 here are a couple of images of a lighter application of the broader kassel turret zimmerit pattern to illustrate my view note the very early mid production tiger 1 with a complete coating of the broader zimmerit pattern except for the mantlets spatula trowel applied pattern this would have been produced around august september 1943 right at the start of the golden age of zimmerit the hulls pattern will be realised with the fabulous lion roar zimmerit application tool well without further ado i m off to the pasting table cheers phil posted by unknown at 05 31 no comments saturday 5 june 2010 voulenteers needed evening all the first thing on the agenda is what afv to give a zimmerit coating to first my intention is to attempt to cover all the vehicles and patterns encapsulated within the production window when zimmerit was applied under the okh order possibly with a little help from my friends so after mulling over the possibilities for a willing victim it s a tiger no shock there then though this is going to be a tiger ausf b king tiger with the prototype krupp turret okay commonly now known in error as the porsche king tiger the reason for choosing this vehicle for a pasting is it s pattern the kt that i have chosen is one from the 1st kompanie of the schwere panzer abteilung 503 in normandy this particular vehicle has a horizontal ridged pattern applied to the hull and turret although this big cat has the heavier broader pattern applied to the turret this is more commonly associated with the tiger 1 ausf e it does have the standard smaller ridged pattern usually applied on the turret coating the hull and spatula trowel ridges upon the turret face mantlet and turret rear there are a few more images of other krupp turreted s pz abt 503 kt s with the same pattern applied to the turret but are they the same specimen i just have to decide which medium to use now god i love the smell of epoxy putty first thing in the morning does anybody have any other suggestions for mediums that they have had satisfactory results with recreating zimmerit patterns with well i go and crack open the box and pots and see what i can conjure up cheers phil posted by unknown at 14 40 no comments older posts home subscribe to posts atom pasting pals helpful modelling sites my barkmann s corner blogspot followers blog archive 2011 1 september 1 back to basics 2010 7 december 1 july 2 june 4 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