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happened just yesterday we started up an online hub for information about the fisa amendments act every day bit by bit we need to keep on creating the materials out of which a sustained movement against the fisa amendments act can be constructed remember what frederick douglass said endurance is the key let s keep it going filed under politics tagged activism endurance fisa amendments act frederick douglass political quotation strategy 2 comments the fisa wager i wish i had lost posted on july 19 2008 by nijma a few days ago i offered to make a side wager about the netroots nation convention some say the convention which was started by dailykos and is now underway in austin is just the informal democratic party convention i was betting that impeachment would be off the table and fisa would be off the table no one took me up on that offer today i see that unfortunately i was correct the two subjects voted on by participants to be considered by the convention were 1 impeachment and 2 fisa in a speech to the convention today nancy pelosi said going after bush or cheney just isn t going to happen but she was willing to throw karl rove to the wolves by considering a gasp contempt resolution in the house then she said the final blame for fisa rests on the house of representatives she was next asked about the wiretapping bill detested by many progressives she said the house version was better than the senate s and blamed senate democrats for approving a version that enabled the republicans to send that bill to the house wait a minute the house approved the bill first and then sent it to the senate what on earth is she thinking of looks to me like what happened with fisa in the senate is on its way down the memory hole then they went on to discuss the really really important and politically momentous blogging issues like the use of profanity on blogs so much for the netroots nation holding democratic party leaders like pelosi and obama and reid accountable for their lack of leadership on fisa there are days when i wish i hadn t listed my blog as child friendly and this is one of them filed under politics 2 comments incoherence reveals childish fear in fisa amendments act posted on july 18 2008 by tracking2008 the united states senate is a place where people try to remain civil with each other on a personal level no matter how strongly they disagree with each other politically it was with this attitude that senate majority leader harry reid took to the floor of the senate on july 9th and attempted to reconcile his opposition to the fisa amendments act with his support for the senators who voted for the law reid s statement was the apex of his incoherent position harry reid committed to individually vote against the proposed law but also worked to support efforts to push the anti constitutional law through to passage he claimed to lead the democrats in the senate for the sake of upholding the constitution and protecting the freedoms of the american people but heaped praise on democratic senators who moved to do just the opposite reid spoke in praise of senator john rockefeller who had led the democrats in the senate who sought to approve george w bush s demands in the fisa amendments act reid tried to explain what motivated rockefeller to support the fisa amendments act saying i may disagree with the result of what we have on the floor today and the outcome of what is going to happen today but i want everyone to know that senator rockefeller is a man who works hard there is no senator who works any harder than jay rockefeller he spends with his counterpart and counterparts members of the intelligence committee days days each week in a place that is secure away from the press staff and the rest of the senate in trying to figure out what is going on in the world as it relates to bad people trying to do bad things trying to figure out what is going on in the world as it relates to bad people trying to bad things that is the level of coherence at which the fisa amendments act was developed and pushed through congress the politics of the attack against the constitution are designed so that any simpleton can grasp them the fisa amendments act is a law against bad people and so if you re against bad people you should support the fisa amendments act the tragedy of this kind of kindergarten politics is that it remains willfully ignorant of the fundamental insight that fueled the creation of the united states of america that often the most dangerous bad people are not rogue criminals but people who hold high positions in government and are willing to abuse the rights of citizens in order to gain power for themselves the constitution is in place to serve as a check against the ambitions of people in powerful positions in government when congress passes laws that undermine the constitution as the fisa amendments act does they do not make us more secure from bad people they make us more vulnerable unfortunately in the realm of kindergarten politics the ability to follow that argument falls prey to the childish instinct of blind trust in authority figures bad people are only strangers and big strong powerful people are there to make us safe go back to your desk and play with your fingerpaints america the fisa amendments act is passed don t worry your little heads about the bad people any more filed under politics tagged bad people childish constitution danger fisa amendments act harry reid john rockefelller power senate 1 comment why fisa is unworkable geopolitical and administrational reasons posted on july 16 2008 by generalrennenkampf societies that spy on their own citizens are always on the way out if the bond of trust between governor and governed has shattered to the point that the government cannot trust its citizens without having to eavesdrop on them or citizens can t trust their government to administer national affairs without putting as a russian noble said in response to nicholas i s version of fisa inspectors in their soup then something has gone horribly wrong granted in the long span of human history this sort of thing isn t unusual not even in us history for instance fdr censored the media in wwii abraham lincoln had more than a few despotic traits in the civil war and john adams did the same in the time of the quasi war there s a few small differences between those eras and now however in adam s day the us was a newborn nation with a large nationalistic minority screeching for a war that would have smashed it to bits and was in severe danger of its life in the civil war the south had attempted to form its own nation and balkanize north america another severe threat to the us s way of life in wwii the us was fighting the germans and the japanese the former a foe that had it had a leadership with an actual brain in its head instead of raging ideologues it could have smashed up all europe and ultimately destroyed any pretense of liberty worldwide in bush s era there is no threat to the us s existence the much maligned salafis and wahhabis couldn t form a group if all of them united the size of a us brigade much less the sheer size of the globally distributed us army they use weapons in all likelihood pilfered from a dead russian from the afghanistan invasion of the 1980s and in twenty years assuming all goes well for china no guarantees they ll be using weapons taken from a dead american what goes around comes around the entire armed salafi movements could not take and hold a city the size of bozeman montana much less a huge nation like the us so an idea like this is unworkable geopolitically another reason fisa fails as logic is that in a nation the size of the us any would be movement dedicated to the overthrow of the us government would not be always using the internet or phone lines too many opportunities too much useful terrain all across the us to hide the government spying on phone lines fails and even a us government souped up to the strength of the tsars much less the soviet government would implode from the sheer strain of maintaining autocracy in a region the size of the us with all the different terrains and paranoia already present among certain sections of the population it would fail on these reasons no to fisa yes to a sane rational united states filed under fisa fiasco 2 comments does dailykos represent the netroots on fisa posted on july 16 2008 by nijma it s no secret that bloggers are becoming more influential it s also no secret that networks and newspapers are cutting back closing their foreign desks tightening their belts the mainstream media even has an acronym now msm the msm is starting to cover the blogosphere as a legitimate news item last night on npr the netroots was discussed in relation to whether the bloggers are going to be able to influence the democratic candidate and pull him back from his recent policy changes that were described as centrist i think we re going to see more of this type of coverage as the date for the dailykos netroots nation convention gets closer if this is a nation i want to secede i don t think fisa is centrist i think it s reactionary and dangerous dailykos doesn t think so they started supporting fisa when obama did i don t personally follow dailykos on a regular basis i find it too tedious to sift through all the self important fluff but this gives some insight to what they are doing over there also this is a sample of the arguments they use for what it s worth the npr piece considered huffington post to typify the blogosphere but it s kos that will be in the headlines this weekend another blogger here has questioned the partiality of the convention pointing out several workshops on immigration telecoms military contractors and lobbyists i don t know what will be presented at these sessions but i don t see any specific session on fisa i also see dnc obama for america the plan a ground game for 2008 dnc obama for america the tools online tools for social networking dnc obama for america the votes registering to win dnc obama for america the message talking to your neighbors organizing for change an inside look at obama for america s grassroots strategy the obama moment bringing networked knowledge into obama s washington there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that this will be an obama love fest and that the message to bloggers will be fall in line kos and his netroots nation does not represent me it does not represent the 24 122 members who signed the petition on obama s own website to please lead other democrats to get fisa right i am not going to shill for obama the cthulhu for president campaign why vote for the lesser of two evils is looking better and better but it looks like the mainstream media is going to be using the netroots nation as publicity for the new obama centrist agenda the netroots is being coopted by the establishment this isn t grassroots anymore it s animal farm and the bolshevik revolution all over again change you can believe in has morphed into meet the new boss same as the old boss so what are we gonna do about it filed under politics 6 comments we are all terrorists now posted on july 15 2008 by xoites one million americans are on the terrorist watch list people with sinister sounding names such as robert johnson gary smith and john williams are are on the no fly list perhaps the solution would be to detain us all and hire chilean mercinaries to guard us filed under politics 4 comments yearly kos convention posted on july 14 2008 by nijma the buzz last weekend at the green party convention was the upcoming daily kos convention july 17 20 only it s not called yearly kos anymore this year it s netroots nation their favorite creatures this year are nancy pelosi and obama for america hmmmm austin anyone i think you have to make a right turn or several right turns to get there filed under politics 14 comments progressives against obama launched posted on july 14 2008 by tracking2008 the following press release was sent out by progressives against obama this morning announcing the formation of a purely progressive opposition to barack obama due to his support for the fisa amendments act faith based initiatives and other right wing causes it s an important project given that republicans have begun accusing progressives since barack obama voted for the fisa amendments act of abandoning their values for the sake of political convenience take for instance what right wing blogger right voice had to say about democrats and the constitution yesterday the next time the left begins talking about the shredding of the constitution they would perhaps best be served by taking a good long look inside before casting their dispersions and their judgments the only thing is that that will not happen because they aren t interested in it rather what they are interested in is making cheap political points and playing cheap political games believing the constitution only applies when they want to make those points or play those games but not when it applies to anything they believe in see the new line of republican attacks barack obama has made the entire progressive agenda vulnerable by making it appear to be insincere progressives against obama proves that argument wrong we progressives value the constitution over politicians even when the politicians are able to make pretty speeches the press release when barack obama broke his promise to progressives and voted for the fisa amendments act it was with the assumption that progressive voters would never abandon the obama campaign because they had no alternative now a group is organizing disgruntled voters online with the purpose of proving obama s assumption to be wrong progressives against obama have begun to organize online at progressivesagainstobama com the fisa amendments act is the straw that breaks the camel s back but it s not the only betrayal of progressive values by barack obama progressives also object to obama s eroding position on ending the american occupation of iraq obama s plan to expand bush s so called faith based initiatives obama s use of religion as a tool for his presidential campaign obama s support for liquefied coal and other dirty clean coal schemes obama s advocacy for the death penalty obama s opposition to gun control obama s opposition to full marriage equality obama s use of homophobic preacher donnie mcclurkin to campaign for him obama s support for joseph lieberman against ned lamont in the 2006 democratic primary some say that progressive voters should put their concerns about barack obama s embrace of george w bush s politics aside they say that progressives should help elect barack obama and then pressure him after the election to make sure that he does what we want there is an old story about a scorpion who asks a frog for a ride across a river assuring the frog that he would never sting him because to do so would be to kill them both when the frog reaches the 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