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olitics in pandering the views one is verbally expressing are merely for the purpose of drawing support up to and including votes and do not necessarily reflect one s personal values so i have to say you are badly mistaken in this accusation do you really believe that dems in general are less than serious about the issues you mentioned in fact a fundamental difference between progressives not that all dems are and regressives which unfortunately all modern rethugs seem to be revolves around issues of human rights if you can see questions of immigration women s rights and gay marriage being decided on the basis of granting life liberty and the pursuit of happiness to all as opposed to repressing the rights of certain targeted groups then we can come closer to an agreement further i can think of no greater panderer in recent history than mitt romney who first has never taken a principled position on any issue this is also true of previous candidate john mccain and second in the debates reversed himself on almost every issue that was addressed while espousing positions on several of them that were in direct opposition to his own platform as presented on his web site if this is a weakening of national moral fiber then the guilt clearly lies with mitt romney and his team you don t see this kind of shape shifting from dems if you are bothered by the influence of special interest groups i recommend you look into and then do some serious thinking about the k street lobbying organizations and their vice like grip on the republican party the beginning of your second paragraph ought to be addressed to fox news rush limbaugh glen beck and the vast right wing media machine funded by the koch brothers and their rich allies and think tanks and the regressive agenda put forth by the american legislative exchange council to relate special interest influence and media over reach to the democrats or any pursuit of a progressive agenda is a serious misunderstanding of the bought and paid for contemporary american political landscape i have to wonder where you get your information and to what extent you are being misled by the kinds of grotesque reality distortion that is characteristic of right wing media i don t think your examples are particularly cogent maroun s attempt to distort the state constitution went down in flames so it s hard to see how the public was confused and i think you have the komen issue exactly backwards it was anti abortion crusaders who distorted and misinformed more broadly misinformation and distortion are now characteristic of and in fact along with blatant voter suppression and gerrymandering vital to the success of republicans look also at the bait and switch tactics of the governors in wisconsin ohio michigan and florida who campaigned as moderate and reasonable but have implemented the extreme regressive alec agenda how is this not a violation of principles both yours and theirs as it turns out by not supporting the state constitutional amendment to protect unions you have enabled the right to work actions just rammed through the lame duck session here in mi with no public debate or support note that snyder was never in favor of this until he was note also that right to work states always have lower salaries poorer working conditions worse safety records and a lower standard of living this action is very bad for michigan in fact the middle class life style you and your family have been able to enjoy and the benefits holidays and vacations we took for granted while we were working together came to us even in our salaried positions because of the bargaining power of unions regarding health care all credible studies indicate that the aca will lower health care costs by a considerable margin not exacerbate them as you have suggested in fact one great way to even more effectively lower health care costs would be to get the non value added for profit insurance companies out of the loop on the gay marriage issue i challenge you to demonstrate how gay marriage in any way threatens the institution of marriage or family structure i don t have stats at my finger tips but i think the record shows that same sex couples have success rates no worse than hetero couples and actually have more stable family structure so where is the hypocrisy of voting democratic on the religion issue i have to wonder how a party so strongly influenced by a rich elite that fosters blatant greed places material things above people at every opportunity not only sanctions but is enthusiastic about torture and is willing to wage war the greatest evil ever visited upon humankind on flimsy or totally trumped up pretenses can resonate with anyone s christian values what i see in the message of jesus is love forgiveness acceptance generosity to the less fortunate a strong disdain for wealth and materialism and an admonition not to judge others also he healed the sick for free if i have this right these values are essentially 180 degrees away from the republican platform and belief system i would like to see you consider these things when you debate the merits of proposals that support or detract from your religious foundation to your last point if this administration doesn t accomplish much in the next four years it will be directly and specifically due to the obstruction of the most recalcitrant and disloyal congress in the the post civil war history of our country their stated goal since the 2008 election under the direction of rush limbaugh has quite openly been to make obama fail anything tragic that happens to the country like derailing the economy is mere collateral damage and not worth thinking about plus since it happens on obama s watch they ll be able to blame him i think enough people are starting to see through this that obama was able to be re elected to my mind this goes far beyond hypocrisy and partisanship and constitutes actual treason note that nothing even remotely like this has ever been perpetrated by democrats or by republicans either prior to 1992 my assessment is that starting with gingrich s contract on america though the roots of this really go back to nixon and atwater the republican party has set a course that has veered off the legitimate political map to a terra incognita of repression and intellectual nihilism that defies alignment with any valid political ideology and has culminated in the willful ignorance and de facto insanity represented by the tea party i welcome your response i also invite any interested reader to participate but i warn you that any comment that displays the slightest disrespect to either of us will be deleted immediately and with extreme prejudice 12 13 update this week the lame duck rethug congress in michigan in addition to the right to work legislation mentioned above also passed without any public support or input 1 an emergency manger law nearly identical to one tossed out by the voters in a referendum just last month 2 some of the most draconian anti abortion legislation in the country and 3 laws allowing guns to be carried in schools day care centers stadiums and churches vetoed by snyder what could possibly go wrong after all we aren t connecticut none of this represents the will of the citizens of michigan in fact it is distinctly counter to it what you see demonstrated here even beyond craven partisanship is the right wing contempt for democratic principles and disdain for governance that have characterized the rethug party for the last two decades this is what you get when the rethugs have power they don t govern they rule they are the deciders and democracy be damned this is just part of why i say that it is virtually impossible for a decent person to be cynical enough when thinking about the rethugs you are just very reluctant to put your mind in a place where you can face their rampant evil i mentioned rethug nihilism above here it is described in lurid detail by a genuine conservative and devout christian who realizes how thoroughly loathsome the rethugs have become posted by jazzbumpa at 1 59 pm 2 comments labels civil discourse politics wednesday december 5 2012 sad obit today we lost a great musician and composer and a thoroughly wonderful human being he would have been 92 tomorrow let us all dance unsquarely while we may as a humanist he was at the forefront of integration playing black jazz clubs throughout the deep south in the 50s a point of pride for him for as long as i ve been playing jazz people have been trying to pigeonhole me he once told the tribune frankly labels bore me from the chicago t r ibune obit today we lose one more great he gave us the sound track for life s unsquare dance posted by jazzbumpa at 1 20 pm no comments labels life music mystery old age really sad newer posts older posts home subscribe to posts atom change in plans no 2 stock market musings are now located at amateur elliott amateur elliott welcome readers i know 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