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a plan of action posted on june 23 2008 by xoites i came up with the idea for this site saturday morning after fuming about the vote in the house of representatives on june 20 to support president bush s desire to rid our nation of constitutional protections we are off to a good start but we have a lot to do and a lot to talk about the purpose of this site is to give everyone a meeting place to voice their opinions come up with ideas about how to repeal fisa and to drum up support for our cause i would like to put forth some notions about how we might go about this i propose we operate on a consensual basis there are many reasons for this the first being that i do not believe in hierarchies i am not in charge here other than my role as site administrator we are in charge what we agree to do collectively as far as the site is concerned will be implemented the second reason is that our common goals can be better achieved if our actions truly reflect our common desires on how to achieve them this is not to say that we can t act in smaller consensual subgroups to take on a task in fact the most efficient groups will probably be the smallest and most committed to that end i expect people to voice their opinion about what we should and could do to take effective action by becoming members of the blogging team all you have to do is ask everyone is invited people who agree with a posted idea should comment on it and start to form a group that will attempt to carry it out it is up to those people who want to see an idea come to fruition to get it done to that end i have a few suggestions one talk about the action you want to be involved in with the people you are working with and come up with ideas two plan the action figure out what is needed who is responsible for doing what and any other necessary details if what you are doing is going to involves talking to the press you need to know the do s and don ts about that which we can get into later if you are going to have contact with the press you must try your best to pick the members of your group who are the most articulate and name them as your press spokespeople if you are not on this list and are approached by a reporter just say you should talk to sam or julie they have all the information three do the action whatever it is whether it is leafleting highway blogging civil disobedience going directly to your elected representative or whatever if you don t do this steps one and two are meaningless don t tell everybody you are going to do something unless you are four evaluate the action go over what went right what went wrong and learn from mistakes and successes five return to step one and repeat it is doing these small things over and over again that will help us get better and better and attract more support to help people who wish to work together get in contact and keep their privacy i will be happy to forward requests for emails just send a request to repealfisa gmail com filed under fisa fiasco tagged politcs 1 comment call your senators stop the fisa amendment posted on june 23 2008 by superjesus the fourth amendment shredding bill that just flew through the house is going to be voted now in the senate and will be voted on this week please stop this bill call your senators right now using this handy phone list and let them know that you are vocal you vote and you re against this bill then call senator obama at 202 224 2854 if we can convince him to change his indefensable position on this bill his leadership could help stop this law from going through super j thesuperjesus wordpress com filed under fisa fiasco tagged fisa 4 comments fisa the compromise that wasn t posted on june 23 2008 by paul wilden when the democrats passed an update to fisa they called it a compromise claiming they had won important concessions and that while the bill wasn t perfect it was better than it could have been it s funny how republicans didn t see it quite the same way this is what senator christopher bond r mo had to say i think the white house got a better deal than they even they had hoped to get and democrat russ feingold apparently agrees calling the deal a capitulation by his fellow democrats it s hard to disagree with either of them given that bush won essentially everything he wanted warrantless eavesdropping on americans and retroactive immunity for the telecoms that have assisted bush in his illegal activities democrats are claiming that because fisa is now the exclusive means for the executive branch to conduct warrantless surveillance and that telecoms will only be provided immunity if the president appointed attorney general asserts that the president s request for cooperation was legal are important concessions both of these concessions constitute extremely serious breaches to the constitution and the rule of law this is not just some abstract legal concept nor is it hyperbolic to say this is the exactly the kind of tyranny our forefathers were trying to prevent providing immunity to lawbreakers because the president said it was okay is virtually the same as the president writing his own laws and infringing the privacy of americans without judicial oversight is in direct violation of the fourth amendment and that fisa happens to be the exclusive means for the president to do so is hardly comforting paul wilden filed under fisa fiasco politics tagged politics 1 comment hr 6304 a bill to abolish the 4th amendment posted on june 23 2008 by xoites remember those who stood with us you have got to love that line 1776 was pre 9 11 filed under fisa fiasco tagged politics 1 comment for the record posted on june 23 2008 by xoites filed under fisa fiasco tagged politics 1 comment barack obama s intellectual dishonesty posted on june 23 2008 by tylercollins this is a repeat of a post over at my blog speak softly carry a candle a skeptic s perspective well this week the heavyweight title goes to obama for his absurd and insulting stance on the fisa betrayal bill that the house just passed i decided to hunt down some past statements of obama s such as this and this i have consistently opposed this administration s efforts to use debates about our national security to expand its own power whether that was on the iraq war or on its power grab to curb our civil liberties through domestic surveillance programs it is time to restore oversight and accountability in the fisa program and this proposal with an unprecedented grant of retroactive immunity is not the place to start to be clear barack will support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies the second is from obama campaign spokesman bill burton now obama says under this compromise legislation an important tool in the fight against terrorism will continue but the president s illegal program of warrantless surveillance will be over it restores fisa and existing criminal wiretap statutes as the exclusive means to conduct surveillance making it clear that the president cannot circumvent the law and disregard the civil liberties of the american people it also firmly re establishes basic judicial oversight over all domestic surveillance in the future and it is not all that i would want but given the legitimate threats we face providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay so i support the compromise but do so with a firm pledge that as president i will carefully monitor the program review the report by the inspectors general and work with the congress to take any additional steps i deem necessary to protect the lives and the liberty of the american people of course what he is ignoring and seems to be hoping you will ignore is this the actual content of the bill itself of course because this is an amendment act you cannot tell what it does from its own text it is really just a list of proofreading changes to the 50 u s c 1804 the fisa law comparing the section on court orders yields the following laundry list of changes to the fisa court procedure for obtaining permission of electronic surveillance the attorney general s approval is no longer needed when multiple surveillance devices are used their individual and collective scope capabilities and efforts to prevent the capture of inappropriate information need no longer be listed a less than detailed description of the nature of the information sought and the types of activities that will be under surveillance i e instead of having to specify e mail they can now say just computer communications or some other broad term that covers multiple communication methods in one warrant certifications provided by administration officials not confirmed by the senate previously the relevant official had to hold a post that required senate approval this cuts congress even further out of the loop only a summary of the method of surveillance rather than an actual statement and the list goes on the fact is unravelling exactly what this bill does is more than a bit tedious and i would not be the least bit surprised to find that most of those who voted in favor of it did not bother to comprehend it and just blindly followed their caucus leaders from just the part of the section dealing with the fisa warrant process that i deciphered though there is a clear intent to weaken the provisions of fisa by cutting out of the loop all officials with any accountability to congress leaving only the president s cronies in the process and by decreasing across the board the amount of information supplied to the fisa court apparently this is what barack obama means by oversight and accountability decreased accountability and decreased oversight so for this barack obama wins the intellectual dishonesty of the week award filed under fisa fiasco tagged politics 2 comments law school plans to prosecute bush posted on june 23 2008 by xoites it may be symbolic but it beats watching fox news a conference to plan the prosecution of president bush and other high administration officials for war crimes will be held september 13 14 at the massachusetts school of law at andover this is not intended to be a mere discussion of violations of law that have occurred said convener lawrence velvel dean and cofounder of the school it is rather intended to be a planning conference at which plans will be laid and necessary organizational structures set up to pursue the guilty as long as necessary and if need be to the ends of the earth we must try to hold bush administration leaders accountable in courts of justice velvel said and we must insist on appropriate punishments including if guilt is found the hangings visited upon top german and japanese war criminals in the 1940s velvel said past practice has been to allow u s officials responsible for war crimes in viet nam and elsewhere to enjoy immunity from prosecution upon leaving office president johnson retired to his texas ranch and his defense secretary robert mcnamara was named to head the world bank richard nixon retired to san clemente and his secretary of state henry kissinger was allowed to grow richer and richer velvel said he noted in the years since the prosecution and punishment of german and japanese leaders after world war two those nation s leaders changed their countries aggressor cultures one cannot discount contributory cause and effect here he said for bush richard cheney donald rumsfeld and john yoo to spend years in jail or go to the gallows for their crimes would be a powerful lesson to future american leaders velvel said the conference will take up such issues as the nature of domestic and international crimes committed which high level bush officials including federal judges and members of congress are chargeable with war crimes which foreign and domestic tribunals can be used to prosecute them and the setting up of an umbrella coordinating committee with representatives of legal groups concerned about the war crimes such as the center for constitutional rights aclu among others the massachusetts school of law at andover was established in 1988 to provide an affordable quality legal education to minorities immigrants and students from low income households that might otherwise be denied the opportunity to obtain a legal education and practice law its founder dean velvel has been honored by the national law journal and cited in various publications for his contributions to the reform of legal education filed under fisa fiasco tagged politics 1 comment comedian george carlin dies in los angeles at 71 posted on june 22 2008 by xoites filed under fisa fiasco tagged politics 3 comments telecom immunity not so popular posted on june 22 2008 by xoites filed under fisa fiasco tagged politics 1 comment obama fisa test fail posted on june 22 2008 by superjesus per obama s quotes on the fisa compromise on tpm he says these amendments are a marked improvement over last year s protect america act he states that the president s illegal program of warrantless surveillance will be over obama then even has the nerve to say that this bill makes it clear that the president cannot circumvent the law and disregard the civil liberties of the american people someone let me know if there was another fisa bill that was passed today because barack apparently isn t talking about the same bill i read about today the one i read about gave telecommunication companies immunity from any laws they might have broken but of course we will never find out what those might have been once this immunity is granted the bill i read about allows for mass and untargeted surveillance of americans communications with no court oversight on the who what and why of the spying worse yet in the unlikely event that the court would deny an order for any reason the government is allowed to continue surveillance throughout the appeals process thereby rendering the role of the judiciary meaningless a court review without power is no court review at all so obama says i support the compromise but do so with a firm pledge that as president i will carefully monitor the program review the report by the inspectors general and work with the congress to take any additional steps i deem necessary to protect the lives and the liberty of the american people well shit i feel safer already shame you don t have the constitutional fortitude to block this fourth amendment shredding machine while you still have the chance if you had any leadership skills you would rally the democrats to ram this bill back up the president s and the republican party s collective ass so the democrats could introduce truly useful fisa reforms in a few months i thought you were different but now i see you re no better than all the other spineless democratic cowards in the house and senate change i don t see any change here all i see is another democrat willing to capitulate on his principles in the name of expediency 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