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dissertation which prevents the reader from understanding more about the research and the veracity of its focus while much material in the book discusses the benefits of ethnography in a theoretical sense which seemed worthy of a separate book i found it necessary to consult many other sources to ensure that i was fairly evaluating the work rather than the research modality as someone experienced in academic research i found these elements to pose an unfair burden to the general reader mcgowin defines qf families as those who practice the intersection of three ideals homeschooling gender hierarchy and pronatalism these converging interests are not the distinctions that define the ideology as expressly qf evangelicals have historically and ubiquitously embraced the values of family pronatalism also a necessity for pioneering agrarian culture the home education of children the domesticity movement along with those denominations that long pursued patriarchy christian reconstruction became the catalyst that caused the much smaller subculture of qf to coalesce i assert that the control mechanisms of manipulation and systems of control set qf followers apart from other evangelicals as illustrated by personal testimony and decades of conflict which the book does not mention e g ecclesial courts lawsuits exclusivism etc the author notes her aversion to criticism of the qf belief system and thus rejects consideration of many critical assessments of qf in her disseration qualifying different varieties of critics by assigning all to a single strawman category of misinformed people who denigrate qf adherents to the contrary research from these neglected sources shows that people join high demand ideological sects like qf not because they are deficient in some way but because they are ethical responsible discerning and intelligent while the ethnographic method may have prevented extensive exploration of critical sources i m disappointed that the author deems the disciplines that study high demand spiritually abusive or aberrant christian organizations illegitimate excluding their mention the study ignores this literature from christian counter cult apologetics a protestant christian discipline that evaluates theological orthodoxy praxy of bible based religion cult education organizations and decades of peer reviewed research by men like paul martin and larry pile both of whom were former members of the great commission a bible based sect that differed little from and shared visionaries with qf references to a matter of basic principles the watershed biblical critique of gothard s program by don veinot and ron henzel now in its second edition and decades of their midwest christian outreach critiques of gothard and vision forum are also notably absent from the book if the ethnographic theological study design precluded citation of this material a qualifying statement could have clarified that for the reader critical engagement i share far more common ideas about qf with the author than disparagements which she elucidates in her personal summary she uses the term family blueprint to describe qf s formulaic cookie cutter preference for uniformity i also found the eclipse of the church section very astute and well reasoned the section noting the pitfalls of privatization of the family leading to isolation points out how families most vulnerable members may become predisposed to domestic violence i m grateful for the inclusion of these insights as they provide balance which does speak to the subject of families the author concludes by stating despite their lofty goals however the quiverfull movement produces an idealization of the family that leads to social isolation the eclipse of the church and in some caes the cover up of sin while i agree this statement is a weak assessment failing to do proper justice to those who have suffered devastating harm while practicing the lifestyle while the map is not the territory in any such survey i believe the reader merited a more thorough well defined map concerning decades of practice and belief that go unmarked in the book and one from a broader theological evangelical perspective i cannot get past the author s statement near the end of the work which declares that qf s religious practice exposes important weaknesses in evangelical theology my subject position leads me to contexualize quiverfull within evangelicalism and offer observations on its continuity and discontinuity with what i understand to be american evangelical norms though from a different set of evangelical roots within a smaller subset of evangelicalism than the author i arrive at a different conclusion while perhaps intentionally vague because of the limitations of ethnography i cannot determine if the author views qf as a fair exemplar or perhaps a microcosm of all evangelicalism i don t know whether she s aware that informed evangelical counter cult apologists reject qf as a pagan belief system even if she personally rejects them as unhelpful such a strong statement deserves a robustly defended thesis from a theological perspective but the author offers what i found to be more personal generalizations about the culture to vet the statement i wish the author had been more specific about her meaning and the rationales though perhaps the generalizations were meant to be charitable may the varieties of our religious experiences concerning the quiverfull movement continue in ongoing discussion and through expanding research as our one god and one mediator saves us and brings us together into the knowledge of the truth as fellow christians may we all find the hope and healing we need may we also endeavor to find that greater understanding and compassion for one another with god s help 1 tim 2 1 7 tweet posted by cynthia kunsman monday october 30 2023 on ghosts and other undue influences some evangelical christians talk more than others about evil influences in the spiritual realm and different denominations believe different things about evil spirits some believe that people and even christians can actually be possessed while others think that demons can only create oppression and opposition that impede an individual christian s efforts there are many different ideas about how to resist and overcome all of that my husband who grew up in a liturgical church would add some balance to some of these ideas by saying that the spirit of man and human nature usually give us plenty of cause and a means of explaining most problems we often don t need any supernatural creatures to serve as our scapegoats job said that man was made for trouble as my clock approaches midnight on october 30 th i found myself thinking about the many kinds of would be ghosts we face in life i like the following description that henrik ibsen offers in his 1881 play better than most ideas a quote from ghosts i am half inclined to think we are all ghosts it is not only what we have inherited from our fathers and mothers that exists again in us but all sorts of old dead ideas and all kinds of old dead beliefs and things of that kind they are not actually alive in us but there they are dormant all the same and we can never be rid of them whenever i take up a newspaper and read it i fancy i see ghosts creeping between the lines there must be ghosts all over the world they must be as countless as the grains of the sands it seems to me and we are so miserably afraid of the light all of us may we find all the courage strength support and hope that we all need to help us step into the light tweet posted by cynthia kunsman saturday october 28 2023 always growing the more things change the more they seem to stay the same a good life of growth always requires commitment courage discernment honesty and hard work from a post originally published in january of 2016 tweet posted by cynthia kunsman tuesday july 4 2023 a pause for respite and recollection i fully intended to delve right back into writing about bruce ware s infamous 2008 sermon at denton bible church when i returned from a short break away from home with my husband we left for it a few hours after i put the previous post online so very focused on the many things yet to say about it all and why it s still important had it not been for the little getaway i d likely write every day but a remarkable thing happened we drove to the lower florida keys where i found a most affordable place to stay on a docked houseboat it was beautiful there and felt very private it was so nice to have a kitchen but the best thing was the outdoor deck that opened up onto the water it also looked out over a patch of many mangroves the water inches from where we sat inside in the coolness of air conditoning we could still enjoy the view through the patio doors while seated snugly on the sofa on the first night my husband and i awakened in the still of the night as we usually do and have done so for most of our 33 years together we usually spend at least twenty minutes in the middle of most nights talking about obscure and fascinating things like the nerd geeks that we are and then we go back to sleep on the good nights we jokingly call it our liguis obscurus sitting out on the deck in the middle of the night inches away from the still watching the calm water filled us with awe wonder and gratitude to share such beauty though we didn t see any dolphins or manatees swim by it was still amazing to think they might even with the lights from the marina and the many boats i could still see the stars in the clear sky most of the world slept and we sat and watched the stars in the sky circling over us it always makes me think of the genesis creation account and i imagine that i can sense the spirit of god hovering over the surface of the deep though it was still that night the surface of the water still seemed to emanate the energy of life i felt a new and different sense of being kept by god who neither slumbers nor sleeps we were awake to witness it and drink it in we then stayed two nights in a nice hotel in a different town on the southern side of the keys looking out on a little bay like area facing the straights of florida though there was incidental light there too i awakened early on our last night there and watched jupiter rise over the eastern sky i could hear the hum of the air conditioner while out on the beautiful balcony while the world and my husband slept i regretted not bringing a scope that might have allowed me to see jupiter s moons because it was shining so brightly with an orange glint when it first made its debut i watched the lights on buildings on the other side of the inlet glisten and scintillate on the water like the stars did in the inky sky i was held i was kept i felt peaceful held above the water and under the heavens safe in god s holy presence as i enjoyed a moment of awe watching jupiter shine so brightly as she migrated up over the horizon and across the sky on the first day of summer i wasn t ready to leave that place of holiness when i returned and i haven t wanted to think about violence deception or cruelty i needed time to remember that amidst it all and even in our trials we are kept and held by god my name is inscribed on his palm my times are in his hands and i am held by him i ve also thought lately that people like bruce ware and his message are passing away like all of us i tend to fear with urgency to spare christian women from the harm that some suffer in the gender war when i see little change tim keller died only a few weeks ago time slips into the future us with it while our times rest in his hands this present world is passing away and a new time will come as we pass out of this life there will be new sermons and new victories there will be new still nights of awe and some with new terror new arrows different from these today will fly by day yet we are kept and held and borne up as god i m not yet done bathing in and exhaling after much needed rest in peace and joy i needed to remember so that tomorrow i will not forget tweet posted by cynthia kunsman sunday june 18 2023 following bruce ware s primrose path to domestic abuse part iii cbmw and bruce ware are no different than shiny happy people we ve considered when gender role evangelist bruce ware relied on cruelty to win ideological debates all s fair in christian love and culture war these days right some of that i understand in light of the dominating milieu that cbmw created to help them win their war we ve also considered some possible negative progressions and consequences that stem from his definition of women as the indirect image of god tweet click here to continue reading posted by cynthia kunsman saturday june 17 2023 following bruce ware s primrose path to domestic abuse part ii turing violence against women into god s gender justice read part i here wife beating became the last straw issue that drove me out of the shinyhappypeople church shpc i d once attended i had no idea who gothard was when we joined but i knew when we left over time i would learn that the ideology demanded that wives obediently submit with a quiet and gentle spirit to any maltreatment their husbands dished out the same went for sex too whatever whenever he wanted all marital discord be assigned to the wife as the root cause twife beating always be considered a breach of duty or neglect on the part of the wife wives just let love cover her husband s sin against her so that her properly yielded submission could magically convict cure rehabilitate her husband that s the wonder working power of submission if you get it right if you didn t get results you weren t doing it right husbands were never held accountable because if a wife does her job right sex and submission and supper the bible per bill gothard guarantees the system to work tweet click here to continue reading posted by cynthia kunsman following bruce ware s primrose path to domestic abuse part i ideas that fed those shiny happy people when the reporter peter smith contacted me to ask questions about my relationships with bruce ware and russell moore and my thoughts about them i told him that i had no reason to believe that either of them had any clue about who i was earlier that year i d earned the badge of honor through a dishonest public denouncement for criticizing their teachings in a lecture earlier in 2008 he assured me that both men knew exactly who i was sharing deeply personal insults about me that were too derogatory for him to repeat he was sure that one of them knew me in real life because of the nature of his comments i assured him i d only ever reviewed their teachings and had never met either man tweet click here to continue reading posted by cynthia kunsman labels shinyhappypeople abuse domestic cbmw gothard thursday june 15 2023 concerning shiny happy people two weeks later i started watching the amazon docuseries about the duggar family entitled shiny happy people 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